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Post by Not Me on Nov 5, 2011 20:58:02 GMT -5
looking at some of the DIII results, I am shocked by how unbalanced many conferences are.
I get that there is a disparity among DIII programs. But within a league, i would think it would be much more competitive. I'm seeing lots of League championship matches where the winner wins every set by 10 points.
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Post by havervb on Nov 5, 2011 22:58:01 GMT -5
The really scary thing is when some of those same teams lose by 10 points per set in the first round of the NCAA Tournament...
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Post by psuvbfan10 on Nov 5, 2011 23:40:13 GMT -5
looking at some of the DIII results, I am shocked by how unbalanced many conferences are. I get that there is a disparity among DIII programs. But within a league, i would think it would be much more competitive. I'm seeing lots of League championship matches where the winner wins every set by 10 points. Can you give examples of this unbalance? & are these finals or first round (aka quarterfinal or semifinal matches?).
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Post by havervb on Nov 6, 2011 8:41:26 GMT -5
NECC Championship game: Southern Vermont over Newbury 3-0 (25-11, 25-15, 25-9)
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Post by jcvball22 on Nov 6, 2011 8:52:22 GMT -5
Well, it's New England. They are the region everyone else hopes to draw in the quarters. Because even the best from up there would finish middle of the pack in most other conferences in the country. And they get 8 AQs to the NCAA tournament.
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Post by Not Me on Nov 6, 2011 8:59:44 GMT -5
So. Vermonet was one of the games I saw.
Juniata over Moravian in a semi final 25-13, 25-6, 25-26 Juniata over Susquehana 20-25, 25-18, 25-11, 25-9 (after the first set, it was a blow out)
St. Norbert over Lake Forest 25-19, 25-15, 25-26
Eastern over Desales 25-14, 25-13, 25-17
Christopher Newport over Averett 25-14, 25-13, 25-17
Springfield over MIT (semi-final) 25-16, 25-10, 25-15
Galudet over Suny - IT (semi-final) 25-12, 25-16, 25-11
Maryville over Piedmont 25-18, 25-12, 25-12
Westfield St. over Worcester St. 25-16, 25-13, 25-11
Wittenburg over Hiram 25-12, 25-13, 25-23
I understand the first round blow outs in the NCAA tournament, but I would think league tournaments would be closer.
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Post by havervb on Nov 6, 2011 9:02:47 GMT -5
There are a couple of weak conferences in New England--I will give you that. However, there has also been four nationally ranked teams in New England this season. The top teams in New England have done a pretty good job of beating up on the top teams from New York (when given the opportunity) this year--UMass Boston beat SUNY Cortland 3-1 (their only loss on the season). Springfield beat Clarkson 3-1 along with Elmira, Stevens, and New Paltz. Coast Guard, ranked 7th in New England and who lost in their conference semifinals, beat Christopher Newport at the beginning of the year.
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Post by psuvbfan10 on Nov 6, 2011 10:51:08 GMT -5
So. Vermonet was one of the games I saw. Juniata over Moravian in a semi final 25-13, 25-6, 25-26 Juniata over Susquehana 20-25, 25-18, 25-11, 25-9 (after the first set, it was a blow out) St. Norbert over Lake Forest 25-19, 25-15, 25-26 Eastern over Desales 25-14, 25-13, 25-17 Christopher Newport over Averett 25-14, 25-13, 25-17 Springfield over MIT (semi-final) 25-16, 25-10, 25-15 Galudet over Suny - IT (semi-final) 25-12, 25-16, 25-11 Maryville over Piedmont 25-18, 25-12, 25-12 Westfield St. over Worcester St. 25-16, 25-13, 25-11 Wittenburg over Hiram 25-12, 25-13, 25-23 I understand the first round blow outs in the NCAA tournament, but I would think league tournaments would be closer. Wow - they sure are some spankings! Wonder if there is any correlation to the head coach (years experience, full time coach vs part time, etc).
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Nov 6, 2011 11:07:50 GMT -5
www.richkern.com has Pablo regional D3 rankings. More importantly, it also has the region averages. The NE and NY regions are completely out of whack at the low end, as they both sit around an average of 4000 (recall that 5000 is average D3). The mid-atlantic is about 4500. Next lowest is the south, which is about average, and then the others are in the 5400-5600 range. So the middle/west regions are all similar and well above average, the south is next and about average, and then you go to the east, with the NE and NY regions notably weaker.
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Post by psuvbfan10 on Nov 6, 2011 16:48:14 GMT -5
Anybody with inside information as to who gets to host regionals? Did Juniata put in for one?
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Post by NotKingOfAnything on Nov 6, 2011 17:07:33 GMT -5
#8 Concordia-Moorehead over #12 St Thomas in 5 for the MIAC championship.
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Post by vbnerd on Nov 6, 2011 17:59:20 GMT -5
UMass Boston, Naz, Bowdoin, Rose Hulman, and Springfield lock up bids today.
I don't know who put in to host, but Eastern is ranked over Juniata so I would think they'd get first shot to host. In New England, they have 8 AQ's and are looking at a lot of teams. I wonder if they let Boston Host and split the NY region between Springfield and Eastern. UMass Boston, Springfield, and Cortland can't all host, but their resumes are all similar. .
Also, I see the Texas teams getting shipped to Cal Lu
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Post by vbnerd on Nov 6, 2011 19:41:10 GMT -5
Here's the selection board as best I can guess. I took the AQ's with the top B or C in each region
If I have any of the unranked AQ teams in the wrong region let me know.
CENTRAL 1 Washington U. in St. Louis 29-1 A 2 St. Thomas (Minnesota) 28-3 C 3 Concordia-Moorhead 23-3 A 4 Northwestern (Minn.) 26-5 5 St. Benedict 17-11 6 St. Scholastica 24-6 A 7 Cornell College 25-5 A 8 Bethel (Minn.) 21-8 X St Norbert 26-7 A x Webster 19-12 A GREAT LAKES 1 Calvin 29-0 A 2 Wittenberg 29-3 A 3 Heidelberg 29-5 A 4 Otterbein 24-4 C 5 Hope 23-5 6 Mount Union 21-7 7 Hiram 25-7 8 Case 21-8 MID-ATLANTIC 1 Eastern 30-2 A 2 Juniata 23-7 A 3 Salisbury 29-3 A 4 Stevenson 30-2 5 Johns Hopkins 23-4 A 6 DeSales 26-5 7 Messiah 24-5 8 Swarthmore 23-6 x Penn St Altoona 18-11 A x Lebanon Valley 22-9 A x Cabrini 22-10 A x Galludet 28-7 A x Geneva 27-8 A MIDWEST 1 Carthage 27-6 A 2 Elmhurst 28-4 C 3 Chicago 27-4 C 4 Wisconsin-Eau Claire 20-11 5 Wisconsin-Whitewater 24-7 A 6 Wisconsin-Stevens Point 25-6 7 Millikin 25-10 8 Wheaton (Ill.) 21-12 x Edgewood 21-13 A x Rose Hulman 24-8 A NEW ENGLAND 1 Springfield 29-2 A 2 Massachusetts-Boston 24-4 A 3 Bowdoin 23-2 A 4 Tufts 24-4 C 5 Middlebury 18-7 5 Roger Williams 26-3 A 7 Coast Guard 23-5 8 Wellesley 21-8 x Rivier 22-13 A x Southern Vermont 31-2 A x Westfield State 15-20 A x Colby-Sawyer 20-14 A NEW YORK 1 SUNY Cortland 37-1 A 2 Clarkson 27-7 B 3 New York University 19-14 4 Skidmore 25-8 B 5 Elmira 24-7 6 Fredonia State 26-10 6 Richard Stockton 23-8 A 8 Rochester (N.Y.) 19-14 x Baruch 24-10 A x Nazareth 26-12 A x NYU Poly 23-14 A SOUTH 1 Emory 32-3 C 2 Southwestern (Texas) 28-2 C 3 Christopher Newport 30-4 A 4 Randolph-Macon 20-5 A 5 Washington and Lee 25-7 6 Maryville (Tenn.) 24-7 A 7 Texas-Dallas 23-6 8 McMurry 26-2 x Hardin-Simmons 29-5 A WEST 1 Colorado College 28-5 A 2 Cal Lutheran 24-5 A 3 Whitworth 17-6 A 4 Puget Sound 17-5 C 5 Chapman 22-8 6 Pacific Lutheran 19-5 7 Occidental 18-8 A 8 C'mont-M-S 19-8
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Post by d3follower on Nov 7, 2011 0:12:47 GMT -5
If anyone cares what I think, about six hours ago I posted my projected field of 64 along with regional hosts. Mouse that hyperlink or mouse the house next to my handle for that and the other D-III volleyball stuff I do.
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Post by psuvbfan10 on Nov 7, 2011 0:24:54 GMT -5
If anyone cares what I think, about six hours ago I posted my projected field of 64 along with regional hosts. Mouse that hyperlink or mouse the house next to my handle for that and the other D-III volleyball stuff I do. From what I've heard, Eastern can not host due to logistical details. I'd bet Juniata or Salisbury hosts depending on who the at-large shakes out & what the travel situation looks like.
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