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Post by matchpt on Mar 27, 2007 23:24:10 GMT -5
Cal Baptist beats UCSB 3-0
30-27, 30-27, 30-27
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Post by Mac on Mar 28, 2007 0:19:25 GMT -5
Is CBU ever going to go D1?
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Post by ucivball on Mar 28, 2007 0:22:05 GMT -5
if cbu went d 1, a few of their current players maybe be ineligible.
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Post by Mac on Mar 28, 2007 0:38:09 GMT -5
Yep, that's the annual wrap on them. But if they did go D1, they'd have to fall in line, and with their reputation now as a winner could get up to speed quickly. I think they also get a different number of schollarships and get other recruiting advantages over NCAA D1 rules, BUT... they have used the system they're in very effectively. Wonder what some CBU folks have to say.
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Post by star035 on Mar 28, 2007 6:52:48 GMT -5
Is CBU ever going to go D1? But why? The idea is to use athletics to draw students, which they are doing. Would D1 improve that, or just increase their costs? I suspect the latter. |
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Post by future on Mar 28, 2007 7:44:28 GMT -5
if cbu went d 1, a few of their current players maybe be ineligible. 22-29 year olds! you think? Cal Baptist roster of HIGH SCHOOL guys who just want to play. 3 Gunthor, Urs MB 6-11 205 Sr. Friedrichshafen, Germany (Konstanz) BORN 1981 !!! 5 Awudu, Shamsu OPP 6-5 220 Sr. Accra, Ghana (West Africa Secondary) BORN 1979 !!! 6 Sun, Yukai OH 6-4 195 Jr. Shanghai, China (Fudan) BORN 1984!! 10 Baliaba, Donald OH 6-3 210 So. Yaounde, Cameroon AGE UNKNOWN!! 15 Asmar, Ralph MB 6-6 215 Jr. Geneva, Switzerland (College of Candolle) BORN 1982!! 17 Caylar, Clement L 5-11 165 So. Baillargues, France (Montpellier UC) Born 1985 23 Vetter, Romain MB 6-8 195 Jr. Geneva, Switzerland (CEC Nicolas-Bouvier) BORN 1984 - |
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Post by mrsvbdiver on Mar 28, 2007 11:18:52 GMT -5
This poses a good question. What is the advantage of being a D1 school vs. NAIA? Men's volleyball isn't exactly a big sport, so there isn't the big money payoff with a national championship like football or basketball.
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Post by swingaway on Mar 28, 2007 12:07:33 GMT -5
This poses a good question. What is the advantage of being a D1 school vs. NAIA? Men's volleyball isn't exactly a big sport, so there isn't the big money payoff with a national championship like football or basketball. Good question. I see no benefit for CBAP. They get all the D-1 games they need or want and have National Championship banners hanging in the gym. I'm just not quite sure whats up with their performance this year. I only saw the CSUN match, but they did not appear to play at a level to beat UCSB or BYU. In years past they could beat anyone but they don't have the depth of those years. |
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Post by fingrbustr on Mar 28, 2007 12:42:00 GMT -5
admin.xosn.com/fls/8100//Stats/volleyball/men/2007/V0327CBU.HTM?DB_OEM_ID=8100************************************************************************ No. 5 UC Santa Barbara Swept by Cal Baptist Cal Baptist, the top-ranked NAIA team, upset NCAA fifth-ranked UC Santa Barbara in three games. 3/27/2007 -Riverside, Calif. – Three Cal Baptist players recorded double-digit kill totals to lead the top-ranked NAIA team past No. 5 UC Santa Barbara in three games Tuesday at Van Dyne Gym in non-conference men’s volleyball action. Scores of the tightly contested match were 30-27, 30-27, and 30-27. The Gauchos fell to 15-10 and the Lancers upped their season mark to 17-9. Cal Baptist hit .427 for the match and swung at a blistering .654 clip in the second stanza. The Lancers proved to be relentless at the net, out-blocking Santa Barbara 12-2. UCSB, which hit .309, entered the match with a solid 8-3 record on the road. Evan Patak led the Gauchos with 17 kills in 40 attempts, while freshman Sam Cantor posted career-highs with nine kills and a .692 attack percentage. Libero Ben Brockman had six digs. Bart Kowalski and Max Klineman split setting duties and tallied 26 and 17 assists, respectively. Cal Baptist, the three-time defending NAIA national champion, spread its offensive barrage among Yukai Sun, Donald Baliaba, and Shamsu Awudu. Sun led all players with 18 kills and hit .739. Baliaba, named the NAIA National Player of the Week March 20, had 15 kills and Awudu chipped in with 14. Corey Spence had a match-best 16 digs and setter Eric Plunkett racked up 51 assists. Awudu and Romain Vetter had five stuffs each at the net. The opening game was tight the whole way before the Lancers pulled ahead for good on a Sun kill at 27-26. CBU out-blocked Santa Barbara 4.5-0 in the game. The Lancers claimed the lead for good much earlier in the second game, as a block by Awudu gave them a 2-1 advantage. UCSB would pull within one point at 12-11, but a four-point run by CBU put the game out of reach. In game three, UCSB led 23-20 following a Patak kill, but a pair of Gaucho errors kick started a 5-0 CBU run that was highlighted by a pair of Baliaba kills to make the score 25-23. The Lancers did not trail again and a Sun kill would put the match in the books. It was UCSB's first match since defeating Cal Baptist 3-0 in Santa Barbara March 14. Prior to tonight, the Lancers had not topped the Gauchos since March of 2004. CBU now holds a 4-3 advantage in the all-time series. It was the fifth time this season that the Gauchos have been swept in three games. In contrast, UCSB has won 10 matches in straight sets this year. UCSB returns to Mountain Pacific Sports Federation action later this week as it hosts No. 11 Pacific March 30 and un-ranked Stanford March 31. Both matches are slated for a 7 p.m. start at Robertson Gymnasium. Article courtesy of UC Santa Barbara athletics
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Post by Mac on Mar 28, 2007 14:13:22 GMT -5
This poses a good question. What is the advantage of being a D1 school vs. NAIA? Men's volleyball isn't exactly a big sport, so there isn't the big money payoff with a national championship like football or basketball. I guess if you haven't tasted from the well of an NCAA D-1 national championship, rather... have been winning the 2nd tier championships ad nauseum, you would ask that question. But if you aspired to be the best in the game at the collegiate level, doing it against the best teams week in and week out, then it might be a different set of goals and sense of accomplishment for you. At this point, after watching or following the CBU program for a number of years, I'd say they have laid the strong foundation for making the jump, and if they can continue to attract great but NCAA-eligible talent, they could be considered amongst the best. Until then, they'll always be considered 2nd tier, and when they beat an MPSF team it'll always be because the opponent didn't bring their entire roster, didn't get up for it, considered it a practice game, used the date as a chance to play their reserves, or any number of other explanations, some of which are legitimate. |
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Mar 28, 2007 15:15:17 GMT -5
Is CBU ever going to go D1? I think it is a lot more complicated than just saying I would like to take the men's volleyball program to DI. It usually has to go with what the entire schools sports program is participating in. There are some multi-level programs but they may have to do with grandfather clauses and/or hardship cases about not enough regional/local competition in their schools geography. If anyone knows more detail, please share. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2007 15:57:46 GMT -5
Are there any hybrid NCAA/NAIA schools? I would assume that you can't be both.
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Post by mrsvbdiver on Mar 28, 2007 16:29:20 GMT -5
I think non-D1 schools try to be the best in the game and would love the opportunity to play against the best of the best, regardless of NCAA/NAIA/NIRSA status. Cross divisional matches would provide the chance for mens volleyball to improve at all levels. Sure, there would be mismatches between teams sometimes. But allowing fans to see a high level team play increases the popularity and demand for mens volleyball programs. Why is Cal Bap the only NAIA school that gets this opportunity?
NAIA rules make older players eligible, which is what contributes to the higher use of international players as seen on the Cal Bap team. The education systems in many other countries do not allow both academics and sports at the same time. For many, volleyball is their ticket to an education.
BTW - Mens volleyball is not officially a NAIA sanctioned sport. It is considered an 'emerging' sport. The national chamionship tournament is the 'Tachikara/NAIA National Invitational'.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2007 0:15:37 GMT -5
I was wondering why Men's volleyball isn't on the NAIA website.
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Mar 29, 2007 11:11:24 GMT -5
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