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Post by OptimusPrime on Jul 2, 2012 17:38:43 GMT -5
We need the tall blocking setter as a backup so we can insert her on an as needed basis! But I still cannot see why we don't have Spicer or Thompson in. We will need them for the next olympics ;D So, it seems that Hugh has most often inserted a double sub: back row back up setter and front row back up opposite, rather than substituting a setter for another setter. If this is the plan, blocking capabilities of the backup setter is not as important. You have a point there! Then I have no idea why we keep insisting on turning Glass into a setter!! O'man now I'll get it ! ;D
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jul 2, 2012 17:40:05 GMT -5
So, it seems that Hugh has most often inserted a double sub: back row back up setter and front row back up opposite, rather than substituting a setter for another setter. If this is the plan, blocking capabilities of the backup setter is not as important. You have a point there! Then I have no idea why we keep insisting on turning Glass into a setter!! O'man now I'll get it ! ;D You know, according to our horny, possibly inebriated British friend, they're SISTERS
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Post by bkedane on Jul 2, 2012 19:46:35 GMT -5
The Washington blogger doesn't know much about volleyball. My favorite part is where he complains about Glass setting Hodge quite a bit when the pass takes the team out of system. Someone needs to explain to him that every setter sets the leftside attacker a high percentage of the time when out of system. Even the great Washington setters do this. You misread this, apparently. It's pretty clear that he knows it is when the team is in system that the attack is usually distributed. No, the line I was focused on from his analysis was this one: "Too often, Glass still went to Hodge, even after difficult serve receives." Maybe you didn't read that far?
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Post by thechief on Jul 2, 2012 19:54:21 GMT -5
No love for Nelly Spicer? I hope you are enjoying your visit to our planet. How long will you be staying? +1 Hilarious, and that's coming from a fan of Spicer...
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Post by Shenro on Jul 2, 2012 20:29:26 GMT -5
You know, according to our horny, possibly inebriated British friend, they're SISTERS The Grand Prix commentator had his shortcomings and he did clearly like some players more than others. You are probably referring to him like this with humor in mind but to a random poster, you're painting the guy as a lecherous drunken brit. And since it's not the first time you referred to him this way, the humor could get lost on people and they might actually believe it.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Jul 2, 2012 21:14:42 GMT -5
Have you ever lived anywhere in the UK? "Lecherous drunken Brit" is largely redundant phrasing. :-)
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Post by chisovnik on Jul 2, 2012 21:44:18 GMT -5
The concern is less with the word "bias" - everyone is biased to some degree - but the use of the word "shameless," which is a clear overshoot (and likely mask for your own unacknowledged bias). Here are three examples of how I came to the "shameless" conclusion: -Against China, starter Alisha Glass continued her usual pattern of setting former Penn State teammate Megan Hodge, rarely getting the ball to the opposites or middles, even when the team is in system. -Although Glass is taller, her occasional blocks produce far fewer points than the rallies saved by Thompson’s superior defense. -Thompson, however, immediately raced into the arms of another veteran, Hawai’i’s Heather Bown. Bown had just made two picture-perfect serves at clutch moments. Thompson, as usual, understood that the keys to success are often in the smallest details. Just my opinion. And it is your opinion to disagree. Totally agree with this. I think Glass is the better setter of the two, but neither of them will be starting unless Berg gets injured. The one that makes it on the team will be the one who provides the biggest spark off the bench. Thompson and Haneef-Park have shown that they could do that. The best players don't always make the best team.
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Post by austintatious on Jul 2, 2012 21:55:11 GMT -5
Never said that Luis isn't biased toward Hawaii girls. I'm not even a big fan of her reporting......grammatical errors everywhere. Even though its a blog, she can still write as if it was going to be in the paper. The difference is, she doesn't bash other players to raise the Hawaii girls. BIG difference. I must concur (I must, I must). I am a Texas grad, and actually enjoy watching Thompson play, Tama I know nothing about, no history. But the way AY went out of his way to post every bad set, every mis-swing, every error made by Hodge and Glass throughout the Grand Prix was past unfair. I understand parochialism, but not at the expense of pointing out every mistake of their competition.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Jul 2, 2012 22:50:07 GMT -5
Here are three examples of how I came to the "shameless" conclusion: -Against China, starter Alisha Glass continued her usual pattern of setting former Penn State teammate Megan Hodge, rarely getting the ball to the opposites or middles, even when the team is in system. -Although Glass is taller, her occasional blocks produce far fewer points than the rallies saved by Thompson’s superior defense. -Thompson, however, immediately raced into the arms of another veteran, Hawai’i’s Heather Bown. Bown had just made two picture-perfect serves at clutch moments. Thompson, as usual, understood that the keys to success are often in the smallest details. Just my opinion. And it is your opinion to disagree. Totally agree with this. I think Glass is the better setter of the two, but neither of them will be starting unless Berg gets injured. The one that makes it on the team will be the one who provides the biggest spark off the bench. Thompson and Haneef-Park have shown that they could do that. The best players don't always make the best team. She's arguably the better six-rotation setter, but Thompson might be the better three-rotation (back-row) setter. It could come down to who HM thinks provides the best combination of the two (steady backup vs. spark plug sub).
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Post by baywatcher on Jul 2, 2012 23:09:29 GMT -5
Where are the VIA sources, finding tweets and intercepting PM's from the cliff-hanger candidates?
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Post by hammer on Jul 2, 2012 23:22:24 GMT -5
The team should be: OH: Tom, Barboza, Richards and Klineman. MB: Akinradewo and whoever. Opp: Kerri Walsh. Setter: Bryn Kehoe and Cary Wendall. Libero: Do we really need a Libero? And if it is not too late, can we get rid of Hugh and make Don Shaw the coach? Haven't heard from TennisCraze lately. This post is dedicated to him. I nominate Barbra Fontana for libero.
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Post by 5100 on Jul 3, 2012 0:40:24 GMT -5
I don't think the Seattle blog and the Cindy Luis blog you linked to have a lot in common. Cindy Luis matter-of-factly stated the contributions of the players with Hawaii ties. It was not an analyis of Bown vs. Scott, Berg vs. Whoever, Miyashiro vs. Whoever. Luis never mentioned any other players nor listed their advantages over other players. It's a Hawai'I blog, so it is going to be about players with Hawaii ties. Nothing wrong with the Seattle blogger and his opinion, but the Cindy Luis blog you linked to is very different from the Seattle blog post.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jul 3, 2012 0:45:05 GMT -5
You misread this, apparently. It's pretty clear that he knows it is when the team is in system that the attack is usually distributed. No, the line I was focused on from his analysis was this one: "Too often, Glass still went to Hodge, even after difficult serve receives." Maybe you didn't read that far? I think it's clear that he meant *Hodge* had a difficult serve receive, which then made it harder for her to get in position, but the offense still went through her anyway. He wasn't talking about being in-system, he was talking about the other teams serving Hodge to disrupt her offense. You may think he's a homer, but the guy's not so clueless as to not understand in-system and out-of-system.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jul 3, 2012 0:45:52 GMT -5
Have you ever lived anywhere in the UK? "Lecherous drunken Brit" is largely redundant phrasing. :-) I know several drunken Brits who aren't very lecherous.
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Post by ay2013 on Jul 3, 2012 0:48:45 GMT -5
Never said that Luis isn't biased toward Hawaii girls. I'm not even a big fan of her reporting......grammatical errors everywhere. Even though its a blog, she can still write as if it was going to be in the paper. The difference is, she doesn't bash other players to raise the Hawaii girls. BIG difference. I must concur (I must, I must). I am a Texas grad, and actually enjoy watching Thompson play, Tama I know nothing about, no history. But the way AY went out of his way to post every bad set, every mis-swing, every error made by Hodge and Glass throughout the Grand Prix was past unfair. I understand parochialism, but not at the expense of pointing out every mistake of their competition. You are suffering from something called selective reading and being even more dramatic by making the false claim that I went out of my way to post every error by hodge and glass, as if. I commented on the play I saw. Volleytalk has this great search feature and you can see every post I've made. I have both praised and not praised every player on the floor for one reason or another, yes I've even commented when miyashiro had a bad pass or Thompson a bad set or poor decision. I've praised hodge for her offense, some of her serving... Posted and agreed that glass location was better and in a direct response to all American I said glass probably does have the best chance to be the 2nd setter in the olympics. Perhaps what you are implying in your over dramatic post was my unequal distribution of commentary of glass and hodge versus the other players. THAT I will agree with you on but that is simply a reflection of the fact that the two of them saw by far the most court time and touched the ball the most. If hodge is touching every other ball on serve receive and attacking OF COURSE she will be talked about the most. I would have loved to spread around my commentary to players like bown, metcalf, Scott, and barboza more but they rarely got the ball. I think both glass and hodge played well this final leg (except for hodges passing).
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