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Post by sucker for spandex err...nvm on Dec 4, 2012 15:25:41 GMT -5
They'll be posted on the match threads, sonny... just like always. thanks old fart!
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Post by psumaui on Dec 4, 2012 21:05:20 GMT -5
Is there just a way to buy a monthly subscription for ESPN? That would be the easiest and legal There actually is a valid way to buy an ESPN subscription but it's not called ESPN3 or ESPNWatch. It's called ESPN Player and is for people outside USA. All you need to do is get or have a Foreign(European) ISP or(proxy Server) and then you can subscribe to it. It has a college package you can subscribe to for 1 day or a month but as of today, I have seen no indication that the matches will be offered. I have watched other matches there in the past with no problems.
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Post by isu40 on Dec 4, 2012 21:20:43 GMT -5
Why can't this be easy like going to a school's website and buying a game, month or year subscription. Ugh...And I can't even 'watch' a blog. Guess VT and gametracker are my friends on Friday.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Dec 4, 2012 22:41:46 GMT -5
"Pirate" links are posted right before the event (or just after it starts)... usually when some individual with a TV tuner connected to their computer connects to a video streaming site... they upload to the streaming site and the streaming site replicates the video to all the connected downloaders. If the links were posted early, the rights holders (Disney and/or the NCAA) would have more opportunity to demand that the video streaming site shut them down. Sometimes, people call video streaming sites that specialize in pirate video (e.g., justin.tv) "pirate coves". This same ballet is danced with goal videos every single weekend... the soccer fans upload the videos to YouTube on Saturday or Sunday and by Monday, they've all been removed from YouTube at the request of rights holders. yeh i knew that already, thanks for the lesson....i ask what time it is and you tell me how to build a fricking watch.... I see that the lesson you need isn't one of technology, but of manners.
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Post by sucker for spandex err...nvm on Dec 4, 2012 22:54:37 GMT -5
yeh i knew that already, thanks for the lesson....i ask what time it is and you tell me how to build a fricking watch.... I see that the lesson you need isn't one of technology, but of manners. i need to take lessons from you i guess, someone who thinks racists comments are fine.
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Post by psumaui on Dec 4, 2012 23:04:16 GMT -5
Currently, I don't have any links for Friday's matches other than ESPN3 but if I get any they will be posted on my thread at top of VT. Also, I may have links to ESPNU for Saturday's Regional Finals. If I do, they will be posted before 1st match on Sat.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Dec 4, 2012 23:10:43 GMT -5
Why can't this be easy like going to a school's website and buying a game, month or year subscription. Ugh...And I can't even 'watch' a blog. Guess VT and gametracker are my friends on Friday. Because the big media providers, just like the big music labels in 1997-2003, refuse to update their business model to reflect technology and cultural changes. They instead use their existing wealth to purchase congressional legislation which gives their old business model the force of law. They are currently voluntarily locked into the old way where they charge the TV providers per-user fees for access to their channels. ESPN negotiates with DirecTV that DirecTV will pay them, say, 97 cents per month for each DirecTV subscriber (you) whose channel tier includes ESPNU. Over 50 million viewers that's a nice chunk of change. DirecTV/Dish/Comcast then essentially acts as a wholesaler. They bundle numerous channels together and sell you access to the group at a markup which is their profit after they pay Disney its per-user charge. So you see, both parties have a vested interest in the status quo. Comcast gets you to pay them for 300 channels when you only watch 15 consistently. Disney gets money from Comcast for all the channels you have access to, regardless of whether you ever watch more than 30% of that content. Which brings us to your complaint. You, dear viewer, are the pawn that Disney and Dish Network use as leverage against each other. ESPN doesn't want to sell you direct access to content because then you as a consumer will wake up from their deception and realize you only ought to pay for the content you actually view, not everything that flies through the air/cable to your house. This frightens them, because it created a marketplace where they are just another seller of specific goods that consumers may or may not choose to buy today on any given day. What established businesses want to do isn't innovate, but maintain predictable manageable expenses and revenue. They won't give you the content because they WANT YOU TO SIGN UP FOR A RENEWING CONTRACT for all the channels, thus assuring themselves your payment will roll in even if you're on vacation with your kids for three weeks that month and never use your television. The entire motive for ESPN in this case is they want you to either sign up for your TV provider's extra package including ESPNU or, if your provider doesn't carry it, to call and complain and demand they carry it (and therefore Dish has to re-negotiate their per-user fee agreement with ESPN). 100% of the NCAA conference shuffle in the last five years is due to the conferences wanting a piece of this action. They have formed their own channels to collect per-user fees. They want you to be a good pawn and angrily call Time Warner and INSIST they carry the Longhorn/PAC12/BTN. They will let you have direct access to content when you pry it from their cold, dead hands.
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Post by sucker for spandex err...nvm on Dec 4, 2012 23:18:40 GMT -5
Currently, I don't have any links for Friday's matches other than ESPN3 but if I get any they will be posted on my thread at top of VT. Also, I may have links to ESPNU for Saturday's Regional Finals. If I do, they will be posted before 1st match on Sat. thanks.
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Post by psumaui on Dec 4, 2012 23:19:31 GMT -5
Why can't this be easy like going to a school's website and buying a game, month or year subscription. Ugh...And I can't even 'watch' a blog. Guess VT and gametracker are my friends on Friday. Because the big media providers, just like the big music labels in 1997-2003, refuse to update their business model to reflect technology and cultural changes. They instead use their existing wealth to purchase congressional legislation which gives their old business model the force of law. They are currently voluntarily locked into the old way where they charge the TV providers per-user fees for access to their channels. ESPN negotiates with DirecTV that DirecTV will pay them, say, 97 cents per month for each DirecTV subscriber (you) whose channel tier includes ESPNU. Over 50 million viewers that's a nice chunk of change. DirecTV/Dish/Comcast then essentially acts as a wholesaler. They bundle numerous channels together and sell you access to the group at a markup which is their profit after they pay Disney its per-user charge. So you see, both parties have a vested interest in the status quo. Comcast gets you to pay them for 300 channels when you only watch 15 consistently. Disney gets money from Comcast for all the channels you have access to, regardless of whether you ever watch more than 30% of that content. Which brings us to your complaint. You, dear viewer, are the pawn that Disney and Dish Network use as leverage against each other. ESPN doesn't want to sell you direct access to content because then you as a consumer will wake up from their deception and realize you only ought to pay for the content you actually view, not everything that flies through the air/cable to your house. This frightens them, because it created a marketplace where they are just another seller of specific goods that consumers may or may not choose to buy today on any given day. What established businesses want to do isn't innovate, but maintain predictable manageable expenses and revenue. They won't give you the content because they WANT YOU TO SIGN UP FOR A RENEWING CONTRACT for all the channels, thus assuring themselves your payment will roll in even if you're on vacation with your kids for three weeks that month and never use your television. The entire motive for ESPN in this case is they want you to either sign up for your TV provider's extra package including ESPNU or, if your provider doesn't carry it, to call and complain and demand they carry it (and therefore Dish has to re-negotiate their per-user fee agreement with ESPN). 100% of the NCAA conference shuffle in the last five years is due to the conferences wanting a piece of this action. They have formed their own channels to collect per-user fees. They want you to be a good pawn and angrily call Time Warner and INSIST they carry the Longhorn/PAC12/BTN. They will let you have direct access to content when you pry it from their cold, dead hands. In in one word "GREED" and that will be their ultimate downfall. "HACK THE PLANET"!
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 5, 2012 0:26:13 GMT -5
"Pirate" links are made available right before the event (or just after it starts)... usually when some individual with a TV tuner connected to their computer connects to a video streaming site... they upload to the streaming site and the streaming site replicates the video to all the connected downloaders. If the links were posted early, the rights holders (Disney and/or the NCAA) would have more opportunity to demand that the video streaming site shut them down. Sometimes, people call video streaming sites that specialize in pirate video (e.g., justin.tv) "pirate coves". All VT match threads have people posting pirate links to the regional finals, national semi-finals and national final. It might be more technically difficult to pirate the regional semi-finals... or it might not: I'm not a pirate, so I don't know how easy it would be to hack and upload live ESPN3 streams. This same ballet is danced with goal videos every single weekend... the soccer fans upload the videos to YouTube on Saturday or Sunday and by Monday, they've all been removed from YouTube at the request of rights holders. I don't care if its legal or not....if anyone knows a way to watch this match please pm me. It will be worth it to get arrested. ;D
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Post by trojansc on Dec 5, 2012 4:23:50 GMT -5
Jgrout, I think what you might be missing is that it sounds like trojansc is a student living on campus. In that case, his connection to ESPN3 would be automatically validated by the school's IP range and therefore he wouldn't need to have any kind of email address, provider account, or even sign in to anything at all. Also, I had Comcast cable last year and was NOT able to watch ANY of the matches online from home because I do not have the appropriate TV package. I don't live on campus. I don't even live in USC-owned housing and I don't use USC internet. I use a VPN that automatically gives me access to ESPN3. And jgrout is right - this only works for ESPN3 NOT for Watchespn. So it is good for Friday's matches which are exclusive ESPN3 but NOT Saturday's matches which are on TV. Some people who have comcast or other appropriate providers will automatically gain access to ESPN3 if they are using a desktop computer. I remember at my parent's house I could just go to espn3.com and have automatic access because of my connection (I forget our provider) - like I do today with a VPN. For those who don't have access to even ESPN3, I would see if your school/employer/whoever has a VPN you can download and use from any computer on any connection (granted that they do have access to ESPN3). I'm not too sure how to access ESPN3 otherwise. I even checked google and with the new change - I don't think there has been many posted workarounds for ESPN3. Will let you all know if I find anything.
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Post by psumaui on Dec 5, 2012 7:05:46 GMT -5
I found a VPN site that you can get ESPN3. I have access now. Cost is only 9.99 for a month(set up for just one month only with no re-occuring payments) If you do subscribe to this site you have to pick a USA IP(may have to go thru a few before you get to get one that works for you). You will be able to access ESPN3 content both live and replay without needing to logon and or sign in. ESPNU/ESPN2/ESPN content needs logon info. This website is: www.hidemyass.com/PM me prior to going to this site so I can let you know how it works.
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Post by jgrout on Dec 5, 2012 12:31:36 GMT -5
I updated my post to add trojansc's information... that you just need to go through college Internet rather than actually be on campus. Thanks.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Dec 5, 2012 13:00:53 GMT -5
I updated my post to add trojansc's information... that you just need to go through college Internet rather than actually be on campus. Thanks. That's because if he's using a VPN connection he IS "on campus" as far as the ESPN servers are concerned. Using a VPN is like being born to military parents on a US base in Japan. You aren't a Japanese citizen you are a United States citizen even though you weren't "on continent" at the moment of birth. Furthermore, while being a college student gets you reasonable access to this kind of thing, I would be very careful thinking you're going to use any kind of corporate/workplace remote connection to watch hours of sports television, unless you work for some silicon valley startup with a ping long table and Xbox in the workroom. If your IT department is halfway competent someone in charge of traffic/bandwidth may ask you a few pointed questions next Monday morning.
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Post by jgrout on Dec 5, 2012 14:19:39 GMT -5
My own campus didn't use VPN for authentication into an intranet... it used Kerberos (and the campus machines with signons were driven off a Kerberos credential). The only off-campus access to the network that would make you appear to be on network used (talk about antiques) Centrex ISDN BRI with two B channels... for which they charged you $100/month (and required you to keep the network interface box always on, not too hot in the summer and not too cold in the winter). The service was aimed at multi-person apartments (or apartment buildings) that used the network interface box as a bridge to connect their own Ethernet to the campus Internet. The technology was great for the time... it looked as if it were a continuous connection and there were no per-minute charges (one of the major selling points for voice Centrex for years). It was eventually buried by DSL (which was much cheaper and much faster).
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