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Post by bball on Jul 22, 2019 13:43:30 GMT -5
it’s exciting to know that Nebraska will have the same starting lineup for two years in a row and then 2021. I can’t wait to see how Kennedi Orr grows! She seems like the next Carlini. I honestly can see her setting in the 2024 olympics. No joke! Pump those brakes. And pump them haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard. Overstate things much? She'd not only have to be the "next Carlini" as you state. But, she'd have to be significantly better than what Carlini was as a collegian. On top of that, she'll have to be better than Carlini will be as a well seasoned 29 year old with likely one Olympics under her belt. On top of having to be better than Poulter. And, based on who is training this summer, Lilley, Hancock and SSS. Those are 5 women who could theoretically still be in play for 2024 who have already proven themselves collegiately and, in most cases, professionally. And I haven't even given any consideration yet to current collegians like Jenna Gray, Sydney Hilley, Nicklin Hames or anyone else who may pursue something post- college or mix in with the national team at some point. I put the chances of Orr being on the 2024 Olympics at less than 1/10th of a percent (<0.1%). And even that is way too generous, no matter how good she is as a junior. I don't put them at 0% because almost nothing is, technically speaking, 0% likely. But, we're not far off from that. I am guessing she'll have stiff competition still for 2028. But, I am getting way ahead of myself. Orr still could use some fine tuning. Excited to see her get coached to her potential, but unless Hames gets injured, she will red shirt in 21.
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Post by FreeBall on Jul 22, 2019 14:25:03 GMT -5
Orr still could use some fine tuning. Excited to see her get coached to her potential, but unless James gets injured, she will red shirt in 21. I spent a couple minutes trying to figure out who you meant in referring to “James”. Figured out you likely had a typo and actually meant Hames.
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Post by bball on Jul 22, 2019 14:58:56 GMT -5
Orr still could use some fine tuning. Excited to see her get coached to her potential, but unless James gets injured, she will red shirt in 21. I spent a couple minutes trying to figure out who you meant in referring to “James”. Figured out you likely had a typo and actually meant Hames. Oops..... hehehe. HAMES
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Post by coloradokidd on Jul 22, 2019 17:39:54 GMT -5
I don't think Nicklin will be in contention for the setting position on the USA's WNT - just because of her size. But so far she has been a 'defensive dynamo'. And if she continues to get better defensively, I could see her contend for the Libero position post college on future USA WNTs. A Libero who could easily set a 2nd ball if required to do so.
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Post by huskervolleyball on Jul 22, 2019 19:11:00 GMT -5
Hames is crazily good defensively. I don't know about her passing though but I agree she has a better chance of playing for USA as a libero.
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Post by Disc808 on Jul 22, 2019 20:04:24 GMT -5
Hames is crazily good defensively. I don't know about her passing though but I agree she has a better chance of playing for USA as a libero. Then you must be estimating her chances as setter to be very very low
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Post by huskervolleyball on Jul 22, 2019 20:06:57 GMT -5
Hames is crazily good defensively. I don't know about her passing though but I agree she has a better chance of playing for USA as a libero. Then you must be estimating her chances as setter to be very very low I love her setting but her weakness is her size. I would love for her to prove me wrong tho.
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Post by huskerjen on Jul 22, 2019 22:30:08 GMT -5
Then you must be estimating her chances as setter to be very very low I love her setting but her weakness is her size. I would love for her to prove me wrong tho. Actually, this assumption didn't hold statistically. The coaches were surprised that we didn't have more trouble getting out of the rotation with Hames in zone 2 compared to historical data. It was a little shaky early, but after Szabo went down with her injury and we could no longer use her to block for Hames, it didn't end up being an issue. Of course, if we can use Szabo (or Zuhn), we will, but Hames wasn't anymore of a blocking liability in the latter part of the season compared to past setters. Somewhat surprising really, but she's a smart technical player who got a lot of touches at the net.
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Post by walkingdowntheroad on Jul 24, 2019 17:01:51 GMT -5
Lauren Ware news: according to her tweet, top 5 are minnesota, texas, ucla, tennessee and arizona.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jul 24, 2019 17:09:38 GMT -5
I love her setting but her weakness is her size. I would love for her to prove me wrong tho. Actually, this assumption didn't hold statistically. The coaches were surprised that we didn't have more trouble getting out of the rotation with Hames in zone 2 compared to historical data. It was a little shaky early, but after Szabo went down with her injury and we could no longer use her to block for Hames, it didn't end up being an issue. Of course, if we can use Szabo (or Zuhn), we will, but Hames wasn't anymore of a blocking liability in the latter part of the season compared to past setters. Somewhat surprising really, but she's a smart technical player who got a lot of touches at the net. I'm confused - are you referencing data just about "getting out" of rotations (siding out) or scoring points overall, where the block would be a bigger factor. Siding out in 2-hitter rotations probably had way more to do with Nebraska having their best combo of offensive weapons at L1/M1 in a LONG time than setter blocking. (FWIW, I'm not trying to downgrade Hames. I think she's elite and good enough setter that being a possibly below average blocker may not be a huge deal - just curious about what data you're presenting).
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Post by Disc808 on Jul 24, 2019 17:23:24 GMT -5
Lauren Ware news: according to her tweet, top 5 are minnesota, texas, ucla, tennessee and arizona. Nebraska fans are not sweating
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Post by huskerjen on Jul 24, 2019 17:45:59 GMT -5
Actually, this assumption didn't hold statistically. The coaches were surprised that we didn't have more trouble getting out of the rotation with Hames in zone 2 compared to historical data. It was a little shaky early, but after Szabo went down with her injury and we could no longer use her to block for Hames, it didn't end up being an issue. Of course, if we can use Szabo (or Zuhn), we will, but Hames wasn't anymore of a blocking liability in the latter part of the season compared to past setters. Somewhat surprising really, but she's a smart technical player who got a lot of touches at the net. I'm confused - are you referencing data just about "getting out" of rotations (siding out) or scoring points overall, where the block would be a bigger factor. Siding out in 2-hitter rotations probably had way more to do with Nebraska having their best combo of offensive weapons at L1/M1 in a LONG time than setter blocking. (FWIW, I'm not trying to downgrade Hames. I think she's elite and good enough setter that being a possibly below average blocker may not be a huge deal - just curious about what data you're presenting). Opp efficiency in that rotation. There's more to getting out of the rotation than her blocking (in)ability, for sure, just that they didn't have any problems above expectation given historical numbers. They have the actual data on opposing hitter efficiency (I don'thave that data), obviously, but from the systemic view, they expected more difficulty getting out of that rotation with opponents trying to take advantage of her blocking in zone 2 and that didn't materialize. That said, I fully expect Nebraska to use Szabo or Zuhn as a blocking sub as needed to optimize the situation.
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Post by nevollfan on Jul 24, 2019 17:49:14 GMT -5
Lauren Ware news: according to her tweet, top 5 are minnesota, texas, ucla, tennessee and arizona. Nebraska fans are not sweating Not for the volleyball program. A lot of us feel for Amy Williams. If true, Lauren Ware is a loss for the basketball program. A girl of height, movement and ability would have found her place on the court at Nebraska.
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Post by bball on Jul 24, 2019 21:38:42 GMT -5
Nebraska fans are not sweating Not for the volleyball program. A lot of us feel for Amy Williams. If true, Lauren Ware is a loss for the basketball program. A girl of height, movement and ability would have found her place on the court at Nebraska. Out of those top 5, she likely would only see a vb court at Tenn or Arizona.
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Post by hochee on Jul 24, 2019 22:15:12 GMT -5
I watched one afternoon session of the Dream Team Camp and obvious standouts to me that session were Allick, Orr, Meyer and Rodriguez. Meyer is pure throwback, country-strong. Reminds me of 5 or 6 former Huskers, circa 1995-2007 or more recently, Dixon of Minnesota. Or more athletic version of ol' whatsamahoozits from Penn State, senior in 2008. Allick and Rodriguez are super impressive looking athletes - Rodriguez is smooooth. And Orr, meh, unless you are impressed by sliding-on-your-knees-cross-country-on-the-money back sets. She looked to me like the most talented volleyball player in a gym that included Kayla Banwarth and Kelly Hunter. I never saw Cook or Reyes play, so can't say how she compares to them. :-)
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