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Post by vbgirls2 on Jul 21, 2014 17:53:56 GMT -5
cvbc14 no disrespect for Mary, but when you are a senior- and the only senior you will be voted captain.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jul 21, 2014 18:05:23 GMT -5
cvbc14 no disrespect for Mary, but when you are a senior- and the only senior you will be voted captain. That just isn't true. In many or most cases yes, but not an absolute. These arent jr high players voting because the think that's what they "should" do.
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Post by holidayhusker on Jul 21, 2014 18:17:58 GMT -5
Amber needs a shot at OH . That is where she belongs. If she is high error offensively, moving her left isn't necessarily the best option. At this point her best skill by far is blocking, her playing on the right makes a lot of sense. I don't disagree with you if I thought Fien was truly a better outside choice than Amber. We need two power terminators at the OH position. Do you think Fien is a better outside choice than Amber? Amber is an awesome blocker but blocking is a position than can be taught with lots of coaching. Look at Elmer. I would not trade John for any other coach in the NCAA's but just like the Anderson/Cook 6-2 nightmare, when John has something in his head, he keeps trying to make it work even when it isn't. Amber is an incredible all around player with skill in every position. Fien is not yet there. You guys have preached on the USA thread, the importance of your OH's having all those skills? Why don't you think that pertains in your own team?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 18:24:53 GMT -5
If she is high error offensively, moving her left isn't necessarily the best option. At this point her best skill by far is blocking, her playing on the right makes a lot of sense. Amber is an awesome blocker but blocking is a position than can be taught with lots of coaching. Look at Elmer. Blocking is pretty commonly regarded as the most difficult skill to train.
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Post by holidayhusker on Jul 21, 2014 18:33:49 GMT -5
Amber is an awesome blocker but blocking is a position than can be taught with lots of coaching. Look at Elmer. Blocking is pretty commonly regarded as the most difficult skill to train. Don't agree at all with you on this. Its a skill that is successful with consistency and positioning.
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Post by jasonr on Jul 21, 2014 18:48:10 GMT -5
Blocking is pretty commonly regarded as the most difficult skill to train. Don't agree at all with you on this. Its a skill that is successful with consistency and positioning. You're oversimplifying it. To be a good blocker, you have to understand what the opponent is doing offensively and get a good anticipatory read on the setter. It's actually very difficult to learn at a high level.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 18:55:46 GMT -5
Blocking is pretty commonly regarded as the most difficult skill to train. Don't agree at all with you on this. Its a skill that is successful with consistency and positioning. How much experience do you have training elite blockers? This isn't my opinion. It's the consensus of most reasonably-aware coaches.
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Post by holidayhusker on Jul 21, 2014 18:56:26 GMT -5
Don't agree at all with you on this. Its a skill that is successful with consistency and positioning. You're oversimplifying it. To be a good blocker, you have to understand what the opponent is doing offensively and get a good anticipatory read on the setter. It's actually very difficult to learn at a high level. Gees......I have been around the game for 38 years. I am aware of the difficulty of learning positions. I am certainly not oversimplifying blocking. Learning to be great and reading hitters defensively in my opinion is the most difficult to coach. Each player has something instinctual that they just,"get." I still think out of all the complexities of each position, blocking is the most coach-able because positioning, hands, etc are so important. Sue me!
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Post by holidayhusker on Jul 21, 2014 18:57:20 GMT -5
Don't agree at all with you on this. Its a skill that is successful with consistency and positioning. How much experience do you have training elite blockers? This isn't my opinion. It's the consensus of most reasonably-aware coaches. Really.....what coaches? I would like to give them a call. Message me with their names and phone numbers.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jul 21, 2014 19:01:38 GMT -5
If she is high error offensively, moving her left isn't necessarily the best option. At this point her best skill by far is blocking, her playing on the right makes a lot of sense. I don't disagree with you if I thought Fien was truly a better outside choice than Amber. We need two power terminators at the OH position. Do you think Fien is a better outside choice than Amber? Amber is an awesome blocker but blocking is a position than can be taught with lots of coaching. Look at Elmer. I would not trade John for any other coach in the NCAA's but just like the Anderson/Cook 6-2 nightmare, when John has something in his head, he keeps trying to make it work even when it isn't. Amber is an incredible all around player with skill in every position. Fien is not yet there. You guys have preached on the USA thread, the importance of your OH's having all those skills? Why don't you think that pertains in your own team? I don't know if Fien is better, none of us do. You have to remember that because Amber has all those skills on the right it isn't imperative that both outsides do. If Fien can kill the ball better, she is better, and Ambers ability to pass in particular allows them to get away with Fien left
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jul 21, 2014 19:03:17 GMT -5
How much experience do you have training elite blockers? This isn't my opinion. It's the consensus of most reasonably-aware coaches. Really.....what coaches? I would like to give them a call. Message me with their names and phone numbers. I think that. The technical elements aren't difficult but some kids have a natural feel for timing and the ball, hard to teach that and Amber has that.
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Post by holidayhusker on Jul 21, 2014 19:07:07 GMT -5
Really.....what coaches? I would like to give them a call. Message me with their names and phone numbers. I think that. The technical elements aren't difficult but some kids have a natural feel for timing and the ball, hard to teach that and Amber has that. Yes Amber does.........do you recall how rusty Elmer was when she was a freshman? Good coaching or instinct?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 19:07:55 GMT -5
Don't agree at all with you on this. Its a skill that is successful with consistency and positioning. You're oversimplifying it. To be a good blocker, you have to understand what the opponent is doing offensively and get a good anticipatory read on the setter. It's actually very difficult to learn at a high level. And have disciplined hands and feet, be able to set/close a block in many situations, eye-sequencing, timing, be able to communicate with other blockers, etc... all within a very short amount of time. Recognize, decide, execute consistently in less than 1.5 seconds. And even if you CAN do all that, there's no guarantee that the ball even gets blocked. It's up to the attacker to hit into the blocker, which leads to frustration, trying to do too much, etc. It's the most difficult skill to learn and execute consistently.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 19:10:07 GMT -5
I think that. The technical elements aren't difficult but some kids have a natural feel for timing and the ball, hard to teach that and Amber has that. Yes Amber does.........do you recall how rusty Elmer was when she was a freshman? Good coaching or instinct? So because one kid did it ten years ago, Fien can do it now?
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Post by holidayhusker on Jul 21, 2014 19:11:00 GMT -5
I don't disagree with you if I thought Fien was truly a better outside choice than Amber. We need two power terminators at the OH position. Do you think Fien is a better outside choice than Amber? Amber is an awesome blocker but blocking is a position than can be taught with lots of coaching. Look at Elmer. I would not trade John for any other coach in the NCAA's but just like the Anderson/Cook 6-2 nightmare, when John has something in his head, he keeps trying to make it work even when it isn't. Amber is an incredible all around player with skill in every position. Fien is not yet there. You guys have preached on the USA thread, the importance of your OH's having all those skills? Why don't you think that pertains in your own team? I don't know if Fien is better, none of us do. You have to remember that because Amber has all those skills on the right it isn't imperative that both outsides do. If Fien can kill the ball better, she is better, and Ambers ability to pass in particular allows them to get away with Fien left but Dorothy....Fien is not a better terminator yet.
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