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Post by Mocha on Aug 7, 2014 16:44:45 GMT -5
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 7, 2014 18:30:53 GMT -5
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Post by dorothymantooth on Aug 7, 2014 18:32:39 GMT -5
Not true, will create an even way bigger divide between bigs and mid majors |
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 7, 2014 18:36:30 GMT -5
Not true, will create an even way bigger divide between bigs and mid majors because in volleyball there isn't one already?  |
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Post by volleyhead on Aug 7, 2014 18:43:09 GMT -5
Interesting that hawaii is not perceived to be in a power conference. San Diego, BYU, Hawaii are just a few that are not considered mid majors but will not benefit from the rule changes that will affect the "power 5."
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 7, 2014 18:50:22 GMT -5
Interesting that hawaii is not perceived to be in a power conference. San Diego, BYU, Hawaii are just a few that are not considered mid majors but will not benefit from the rule changes that will affect the "power 5." It's not interesting at all, while Hawaii is a great volleyball school, with a rich tradition, their current conference, and former, don't even come close to touching the revenue and success, across all sports as the other conferences. These new rules, IMO, won't really change the status quo for the teams you mentioned. Hawaii is rarely in the running for the best recruits anyway, and the volleyball program is self sufficient, and teams generally line up at the door to play in Hawaii (who wouldn't wanna go on an island vacation?) not sure how the new rules will change any of that. BYU has the whole mormon thing going on, the new rules won't change that indoctrination. And even though volleyball talent is as widespread as ever, San Diego still finds itself within a 3 hour drive of the highest concentration of top volleyball clubs in the country. |
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Post by bc1900 on Aug 7, 2014 18:59:20 GMT -5
This is of course was driven by football and men's basketball (the revenue sports), but the benefits could perhaps spill over to other sports such as women's volleyball. |
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Post by rampageripster on Aug 7, 2014 19:36:32 GMT -5
We'll just make our own league with more blackjack and hookers...
This is all driven by football, but it would be interesting to me to see if athletic departments use this to try and move their football programs away from the rest of their programs though this. Making rules for only football athletes. The precedent is set for having schools have certain programs at different division levels (e.g. Hopkins for lacrosse, UM-Duluth for hockey).
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Post by elevationvb on Aug 7, 2014 19:42:07 GMT -5
We'll just make our own league with more blackjack and hookers... This is all driven by football, but it would be interesting to me to see if athletic departments use this to try and move their football programs away from the rest of their programs though this. Making rules for only football athletes. The precedent is set for having schools have certain programs at different division levels (e.g. Hopkins for lacrosse, UM-Duluth for hockey).
Title IX becomes a major issue once they give additional money to football and male basketball players. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 19:44:04 GMT -5
We'll just make our own league with more blackjack and hookers... This is all driven by football, but it would be interesting to me to see if athletic departments use this to try and move their football programs away from the rest of their programs though this. Making rules for only football athletes. The precedent is set for having schools have certain programs at different division levels (e.g. Hopkins for lacrosse, UM-Duluth for hockey). We already have one Hooker in the USA gym and that's enough drama as is. Please, no more |
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Post by silversurfer on Aug 7, 2014 19:44:47 GMT -5
Not true, will create an even way bigger divide between bigs and mid majors ...which is what was going to occur anyway. What will happen, I think, is some mid-majors that want to be part of the Big 5 world will over-reach, kinda like what Temple is doing right now trying to be a "player" in football..the smart athletic departments will know their limitations. |
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Post by elevationvb on Aug 7, 2014 19:48:21 GMT -5
Not true, will create an even way bigger divide between bigs and mid majors ...which is what was going to occur anyway. What will happen, I think, is some mid-majors that want to be part of the Big 5 world will over-reach, kinda like what Temple is doing right now trying to be a "player" in football..the smart athletic departments will know their limitations. |
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Post by thenetset on Aug 7, 2014 19:51:27 GMT -5
We'll just make our own league with more blackjack and hookers... This is all driven by football, but it would be interesting to me to see if athletic departments use this to try and move their football programs away from the rest of their programs though this. Making rules for only football athletes. The precedent is set for having schools have certain programs at different division levels (e.g. Hopkins for lacrosse, UM-Duluth for hockey). Those schools are under grandfather clauses. You can't just decide to have this program be D-I, that program be D-III, and whatnot. |
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Post by volleyhead on Aug 7, 2014 20:10:07 GMT -5
Interesting that hawaii is not perceived to be in a power conference. San Diego, BYU, Hawaii are just a few that are not considered mid majors but will not benefit from the rule changes that will affect the "power 5." It's not interesting at all, while Hawaii is a great volleyball school, with a rich tradition, their current conference, and former, don't even come close to touching the revenue and success, across all sports as the other conferences. These new rules, IMO, won't really change the status quo for the teams you mentioned. Hawaii is rarely in the running for the best recruits anyway, and the volleyball program is self sufficient, and teams generally line up at the door to play in Hawaii (who wouldn't wanna go on an island vacation?) not sure how the new rules will change any of that. BYU has the whole mormon thing going on, the new rules won't change that indoctrination. And even though volleyball talent is as widespread as ever, San Diego still finds itself within a 3 hour drive of the highest concentration of top volleyball clubs in the country. If USC or UCLA is recruiting the same kid as San Diego or Pepperdine and they throw in the cost of attendance factor or guaranteed 4 year schollie, the kid if on the fence will lean toward SC or UCLA and don't tell me they don't recruit the same players |
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 7, 2014 20:12:45 GMT -5
It's not interesting at all, while Hawaii is a great volleyball school, with a rich tradition, their current conference, and former, don't even come close to touching the revenue and success, across all sports as the other conferences. These new rules, IMO, won't really change the status quo for the teams you mentioned. Hawaii is rarely in the running for the best recruits anyway, and the volleyball program is self sufficient, and teams generally line up at the door to play in Hawaii (who wouldn't wanna go on an island vacation?) not sure how the new rules will change any of that. BYU has the whole mormon thing going on, the new rules won't change that indoctrination. And even though volleyball talent is as widespread as ever, San Diego still finds itself within a 3 hour drive of the highest concentration of top volleyball clubs in the country. If USC or UCLA is recruiting the same kid as San Diego or Pepperdine and they throw in the cost of attendance factor or guaranteed 4 year schollie, the kid if on the fence will lean toward SC or UCLA and don't tell me they don't recruit the same players Well they recruit the same players now....even with the current rules LA schools are winning out the recruiting battles against teams like San Diego and Pepperdine for So-Cal talent. |
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