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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 1, 2014 11:57:59 GMT -5
The implication was "type" of player, not as good as. You really should ease up on the "ridiculous' overstated" criticisms given you've been more than guilty on occasion. Just disagree, explain why. I'm aware of what comparison the poster attempted to draw. Burgess is not the same caliber of player that Robinson was because she isn't as good in any area - leader, competitor, athlete - that Robinson was. I think the comparison from a Cardinal fan is ridiculous. I don't think you are aware given your post, that or I am mistaken about what he meant. I don't think the poster at any point meant she was as good as Robinson in any area, rather like Robinson her strength is she is solid in every area, not someone who just excels at any one skill. And again, everything is "ridiculous" or horrendous etc..... I don't find the comparison of Burgess and Robo's "type" of game ridiculous. I would find the comparison of them being the same caliber ridiculous, but he didn't say that.
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Post by oldunc on Sept 1, 2014 12:00:09 GMT -5
Nebraska returns more starters than Stanford. I don't think Stanford lost a player who was their leading passer, defender, server and point scorer on their team by a MASSIVE margin.....did they? Well, they lost their #1 offensive option and unquestioned veteran leader, who also happened to be the best middle blocker in the country. It's true that she never4 did much as a passer.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 12:21:16 GMT -5
I'm aware of what comparison the poster attempted to draw. Burgess is not the same caliber of player that Robinson was because she isn't as good in any area - leader, competitor, athlete - that Robinson was. I think the comparison from a Cardinal fan is ridiculous. I don't think you are aware given your post, that or I am mistaken about what he meant. I don't think the poster at any point meant she was as good as Robinson in any area, rather like Robinson her strength is she is solid in every area, not someone who just excels at any one skill. And again, everything is "ridiculous" or horrendous etc..... I don't find the comparison of Burgess and Robo's "type" of game ridiculous. I would find the comparison of them being the same caliber ridiculous, but he didn't say that. What is the point of saying "very Robinson-esque" if the goal isn't to suggest that they're of a similar calibre of player? Why not just say that she's a very well-rounded, consistent, excellent player?
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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 1, 2014 12:37:49 GMT -5
I don't think you are aware given your post, that or I am mistaken about what he meant. I don't think the poster at any point meant she was as good as Robinson in any area, rather like Robinson her strength is she is solid in every area, not someone who just excels at any one skill. And again, everything is "ridiculous" or horrendous etc..... I don't find the comparison of Burgess and Robo's "type" of game ridiculous. I would find the comparison of them being the same caliber ridiculous, but he didn't say that. What is the point of saying "very Robinson-esque" if the goal isn't to suggest that they're of a similar calibre of player? Why not just say that she's a very well-rounded, consistent, excellent player? I think he did say that. When I read the comment I immediately saw the comparison of the two players in terms of their strengths, what they do, which I agree with. I didn't see an attempt to say she was that good. You jumped the comment as ridiculous for him to say she was as good, but he never said she was as good. Here is an example (of which of course you will deem ridiculous) Teenage Fanclub, as a band is considered "Beatle-esque" Songs that have similar harmonies, chord progressions, and musical style of Beatle songs. A song with mellow John Lennon type vocals over a slide guitar progression (George) with some horns and strings here and there (Paul) would be a Beatle-esque song. Teenage Fanclub is nowhere near as good as the Beatles, and the statement they are Beatle-esque doesn't imply they are.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 12:39:00 GMT -5
What is the point of saying "very Robinson-esque" if the goal isn't to suggest that they're of a similar calibre of player? Why not just say that she's a very well-rounded, consistent, excellent player? I think he did say that. When I read the comment I immediately saw the comparison of the two players in terms of their strengths, what they do, which I agree with. I didn't see an attempt to say she was that good. You jumped the comment as ridiculous for him to say she was as good, but he never said she was as good. Here is an example (of which of course you will deem ridiculous) Teenage Fanclub, as a band is considered "Beatle-esque" Songs that have similar harmonies, chord progressions, and musical style of Beatle songs. A song with mellow John Lennon type vocals over a slide guitar progression (George) with some horns and strings here and there (Paul) would be a Beatle-esque song. Teenage Fanclub is nowhere near as good as the Beatles, and the statement they are Beatle-esque doesn't imply they are. Ridiculous.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 1, 2014 12:44:38 GMT -5
I think he did say that. When I read the comment I immediately saw the comparison of the two players in terms of their strengths, what they do, which I agree with. I didn't see an attempt to say she was that good. You jumped the comment as ridiculous for him to say she was as good, but he never said she was as good. Here is an example (of which of course you will deem ridiculous) Teenage Fanclub, as a band is considered "Beatle-esque" Songs that have similar harmonies, chord progressions, and musical style of Beatle songs. A song with mellow John Lennon type vocals over a slide guitar progression (George) with some horns and strings here and there (Paul) would be a Beatle-esque song. Teenage Fanclub is nowhere near as good as the Beatles, and the statement they are Beatle-esque doesn't imply they are. Ridiculous. How about the LITERAL translation of esque: in the style of. All of this would be unnecessary if you actually knew what the word you took exception to actually meant. Note, that poster politely responded to what he meant in the comparison, that I responded twice politely what he meant, but you just wanna keep going, and calling everything you don't agree with ridiculous. When you slam someone for using a word which you don't know the definition of, you end up looking......... Burgess plays like Robo, she isn't nearly as good. Why he said esque, and not she is as good as.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Sept 1, 2014 12:46:33 GMT -5
I think he did say that. When I read the comment I immediately saw the comparison of the two players in terms of their strengths, what they do, which I agree with. I didn't see an attempt to say she was that good. You jumped the comment as ridiculous for him to say she was as good, but he never said she was as good. Here is an example (of which of course you will deem ridiculous) Teenage Fanclub, as a band is considered "Beatle-esque" Songs that have similar harmonies, chord progressions, and musical style of Beatle songs. A song with mellow John Lennon type vocals over a slide guitar progression (George) with some horns and strings here and there (Paul) would be a Beatle-esque song. Teenage Fanclub is nowhere near as good as the Beatles, and the statement they are Beatle-esque doesn't imply they are. Ridiculous. He's not a boggart. That won't make him go away.
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Post by oldunc on Sept 1, 2014 12:48:39 GMT -5
Since Burgess is starting her junior year and Robinson has completed her senior year, it seems a bit early for comparisons. They were both AVCA HMAA as sophomores.
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Post by jasonr on Sept 1, 2014 12:49:11 GMT -5
Yes we need a leader out there; we also balance! We need the girls to work together! GO HUSKERS Believe it or not I can see you taking down Texas, hang in there. Depends on how Nebraska serves. The key ingredient in beating Texas is tough serving. They're not the best reception/passing team and tough serving really throws off their offense. Granted, tough serving is key in almost any match, but it's especially critical against Texas. They're traditionally one of the toughest schools to beat when they're in system because they have so much firepower on the pins.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 1, 2014 12:54:24 GMT -5
Since Burgess is starting her junior year and Robinson has completed her senior year, it seems a bit early for comparisons. They were both AVCA HMAA as sophomores. Their level of play wasn't compared, that is the entire point.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 1, 2014 12:57:52 GMT -5
He's not a boggart. That won't make him go away. If people wont go away it certainly wont be from a lack of him calling other people or other ideas ridiculous.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 1, 2014 13:00:05 GMT -5
Believe it or not I can see you taking down Texas, hang in there. Depends on how Nebraska serves. The key ingredient in beating Texas is tough serving. They're not the best reception/passing team and tough serving really throws off their offense. Granted, tough serving is key in almost any match, but it's especially critical against Texas. They're traditionally one of the toughest schools to beat when they're in system because they have so much firepower on the pins. What just one minute. You aren't suggesting that Nebraska has to take them out of system to balance out some sort of disparity in talent are you? Some folks on here don't think that is an issue for Nebraska vs the best teams.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Sept 1, 2014 13:01:31 GMT -5
He's not a boggart. That won't make him go away. If people wont go away it certainly wont be from a lack of him calling other people or other ideas ridiculous. Don't take it too deeply. Was just having fun with words.
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Post by jasonr on Sept 1, 2014 13:03:31 GMT -5
Depends on how Nebraska serves. The key ingredient in beating Texas is tough serving. They're not the best reception/passing team and tough serving really throws off their offense. Granted, tough serving is key in almost any match, but it's especially critical against Texas. They're traditionally one of the toughest schools to beat when they're in system because they have so much firepower on the pins. What just one minute. You aren't suggesting that Nebraska has to take them out of system to balance out some sort of disparity in talent are you? Some folks on here don't think that is an issue for Nebraska vs the best teams. How did you get that from what I wrote? Serving Texas tough is the key regardless of who they play. Even PSU, Stanford, et al., would need to do that to have the best opportunity of winning. It has nothing to do with "talent," which is a nebulous term that doesn't explain much.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 13:32:48 GMT -5
How about the LITERAL translation of esque: in the style of. All of this would be unnecessary if you actually knew what the word you took exception to actually meant. Note, that poster politely responded to what he meant in the comparison, that I responded twice politely what he meant, but you just wanna keep going, and calling everything you don't agree with ridiculous. When you slam someone for using a word which you don't know the definition of, you end up looking......... Burgess plays like Robo, she isn't nearly as good. Why he said esque, and not she is as good as. RIDDIKULUS!
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