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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 1, 2014 13:35:41 GMT -5
What just one minute. You aren't suggesting that Nebraska has to take them out of system to balance out some sort of disparity in talent are you? Some folks on here don't think that is an issue for Nebraska vs the best teams. How did you get that from what I wrote? Serving Texas tough is the key regardless of who they play. Even PSU, Stanford, et al., would need to do that to have the best opportunity of winning. It has nothing to do with "talent," which is a nebulous term that doesn't explain much. I was making a joke regarding comments others have made, I agree with you regarding serving. If you aren't stressing their skill, their athletes will run you over. Wisconsin match was the perfect example of that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 13:38:17 GMT -5
How about the LITERAL translation of esque: in the style of. All of this would be unnecessary if you actually knew what the word you took exception to actually meant. Note, that poster politely responded to what he meant in the comparison, that I responded twice politely what he meant, but you just wanna keep going, and calling everything you don't agree with ridiculous. When you slam someone for using a word which you don't know the definition of, you end up looking......... Burgess plays like Robo, she isn't nearly as good. Why he said esque, and not she is as good as. Burgess doesn't play like Robinson. I know the definition of the word, "esque," and the use of it wasn't appropriate. There was no reason to put Robinson's name into the discussion if not to attempt to suggest some similarities, and, IMO, there are very few. Burgess reminds me more of the 2008 version of Tara Mueller than of any version of Kelsey Robinson.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 13:39:58 GMT -5
How did you get that from what I wrote? Serving Texas tough is the key regardless of who they play. Even PSU, Stanford, et al., would need to do that to have the best opportunity of winning. It has nothing to do with "talent," which is a nebulous term that doesn't explain much. I was making a joke regarding comments others have made. Because you're a sarcastic, condescending *******.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 1, 2014 14:06:41 GMT -5
How about the LITERAL translation of esque: in the style of. All of this would be unnecessary if you actually knew what the word you took exception to actually meant. Note, that poster politely responded to what he meant in the comparison, that I responded twice politely what he meant, but you just wanna keep going, and calling everything you don't agree with ridiculous. When you slam someone for using a word which you don't know the definition of, you end up looking......... Burgess plays like Robo, she isn't nearly as good. Why he said esque, and not she is as good as. Burgess doesn't play like Robinson. I know the definition of the word, "esque," and the use of it wasn't appropriate. There was no reason to put Robinson's name into the discussion if not to attempt to suggest some similarities, and, IMO, there are very few. Burgess reminds me more of the 2008 version of Tara Mueller than of any version of Kelsey Robinson. The reason I would imagine is that he see's similarities in how they play, you are still fixated on how well they do that. If he meant to say how they play and not how well, (we know he did, he explained that) than "esque" is absolutely the right word.
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Post by holidayhusker on Sept 1, 2014 15:28:39 GMT -5
Burgess is impressive...a very impressive six rotation player. The is no arguing with that.
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Post by akbar on Sept 1, 2014 15:32:34 GMT -5
that's a helluva set by Bugg. I know the one you are talking about but that was her only option and it helped to be able to throw the ball up to 11 ft and say go do something with that. Most setters in the land wouldn't know what to do with that ball.
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Post by oldunc on Sept 1, 2014 20:07:57 GMT -5
Since Burgess is starting her junior year and Robinson has completed her senior year, it seems a bit early for comparisons. They were both AVCA HMAA as sophomores. Their level of play wasn't compared, that is the entire point. I beg your pardon? It is assuredly difficult to say what the discussion is about, but even conceding that there is a point, it's too early to make it- whatever it may be.
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Post by evan on Sept 1, 2014 21:45:06 GMT -5
Boukather had a great weekend. Glad to see her back out on the court. When she got a lot of playing time as a Sophomore, it was only front row. Her back row play was a pleasant surprise!
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Post by jgrout on Sept 1, 2014 21:48:47 GMT -5
Morgan kill, Stanford sweeps. -17 -17 -19 By one point, this was the lowest aggregate point total for UNL in any match since the beginning of rally scoring (what matters is the aggregate since the drop to 25-point sets, which led to lower losing set totals than 30-point sets).
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Post by jgrout on Sept 1, 2014 21:58:09 GMT -5
Burgess is impressive...a very impressive six rotation player. The is no arguing with that. You must not be a disciple of Coach Haley... he thinks a good outside hitter has to be able to get 30 kills against a double team, like both of his starting outsides, and outsides who can't aren't carrying their full weight in the front row. From this perspective, both USC and Washington are ahead of Stanford as national championship contenders. His role in rigging his region's All-Region team in 2012 (as the head of a three-coach panel, choosing all of USC's All-Pac-12 players and a non-All-Pac-12 USC senior, leaving out several All-Pac-12 players from other programs) may have sparked the nationwide change to region-wide voting in 2013, but neither Burgess nor Howard made All-Region in 2012 or 2013, Bricio did in both 2012 and 2013 and Nwanebu did as a freshman in 2013. To be fair, Bugg was left off the All-Pac-12 team in 2013 (it had no setters) but was named to the All-Region team and made second-team All-American. I think she'll pass her role model, Bryn Kehoe, and be named a first-team All-American as a junior (yes, Mom Kehoe, I think Bryn deserved to be... she just didn't get it with so many senior All-American candidate setters).
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Post by coloradokidd on Sept 1, 2014 22:30:07 GMT -5
Morgan kill, Stanford sweeps. -17 -17 -19 By one point, this was the lowest aggregate point total for UNL in any match since the beginning of rally scoring (what matters is the aggregate since the drop to 25-point sets, which led to lower losing set totals than 30-point sets). Yes, It looks like the Huskers are going to hit some all-time lows before they right the ship. It's really hard to judge Stanford's performance as bad as the Huskers played. After this last weekend I would like to see this starting line-up developed - with the subs right in if the starter is struggling: OH's: K. Rolfzen, Fien - Albrecht RS : A. Rolfzen - Ostrander M's: Hall, Larson - Haggerty, Keil
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Post by canda on Sept 1, 2014 22:50:08 GMT -5
Haleigh Washington is highly doubtful for the Stanford match. Russ Rose said he didn't think her injury (unspecified) was "season ending", but it implies it could last awhile. She was in sweats during the first game, doing NO warmups. She's hurt.
Franti plays like a 2-year veteran, but the current Lions can not block like last year's team, at the moment. I expect a much better showing than Nebraska made against Stanford, but think it will be quite difficult to win. PSU's only competitive game was against TCU, and there was some difficulty blocking their power shots.
Meanwhile, the ACC, behind Florida State and Louisville, made Nebraska and Minnesota of the BIG look very beatable. Deja McClendon's sister was great for Louisville.
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Post by canda on Sept 1, 2014 22:58:03 GMT -5
Haleigh Washington is highly doubtful for the Stanford match. Russ Rose said he didn't think her injury (unspecified) was "season ending", but it implies it could last awhile. She was in sweats during the first game, doing NO warmups. She's hurt.
Franti plays like a 2-year veteran, but the current Lions can not block like last year's team, at the moment. I expect a much better showing than Nebraska made against Stanford, but think it will be quite difficult to win. PSU's only competitive game was against TCU, and there was some difficulty blocking their power shots.
Meanwhile, the ACC, behind Florida State and Louisville, made Nebraska and Minnesota of the BIG look very beatable. Deja McClendon's sister was great for Louisville.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 23:16:41 GMT -5
I was impressed with Stanford's scramble play and their out of system attacking. Nebraska was chaotic at times. I'd argue they won every positional (head to head) battle. Perhaps an obvious statement given they won 3-0 but still .....
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Post by beaaaaast on Sept 2, 2014 1:39:58 GMT -5
Burgess is impressive...a very impressive six rotation player. The is no arguing with that. You must not be a disciple of Coach Haley... he thinks a good outside hitter has to be able to get 30 kills against a double team, like both of his starting outsides, and outsides who can't aren't carrying their full weight in the front row. From this perspective, both USC and Washington are ahead of Stanford as national championship contenders. His role in rigging his region's All-Region team in 2012 (as the head of a three-coach panel, choosing all of USC's All-Pac-12 players and a non-All-Pac-12 USC senior, leaving out several All-Pac-12 players from other programs) may have sparked the nationwide change to region-wide voting in 2013, but neither Burgess nor Howard made All-Region in 2012 or 2013, Bricio did in both 2012 and 2013 and Nwanebu did as a freshman in 2013. To be fair, Bugg was left off the All-Pac-12 team in 2013 (it had no setters) but was named to the All-Region team and made second-team All-American. I think she'll pass her role model, Bryn Kehoe, and be named a first-team All-American as a junior (yes, Mom Kehoe, I think Bryn deserved to be... she just didn't get it with so many senior All-American candidate setters). I think your making a good point. USC has arguably some of the best OH's in collegiate volleyball today. However, one OH that scores 30 points in a game does not make your team good. A team that will win the national championships will have balance, which is what USC lacks. Look at Penn State who won the national championships in 2013. They had great OH's and great defense and great sets by Hancock. Also, if you look at all the OH's Haley is recruiting for the upcoming years, you'd clearly see his philosophy that the better the OH's, the better the team. This is why I don't see USC winning the national championships this year. They lack balance. Stanford has that balance, which is why I wouldn't be surprised if they took home the trophy this year.
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