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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 18:20:39 GMT -5
I like Stanford in front of Texas. I also think Florida State is still the top dog in Florida until they get beat.
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Post by coloradokidd on Aug 31, 2014 18:26:35 GMT -5
Just a Guess: Only 16 points of 1,417 total points separated 4-6 (virtually even). Add the results, plus first place votes received last poll - Wisc./8, USC/2, and Wash./0. But could stay the same order - 4-6. Definitely not a science.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Aug 31, 2014 18:30:11 GMT -5
Hawai'i will drop, the question is how far? I don't believe Hawai'i will fall out of the poll, which would be pretty historic considering the last time a Hawai'i team was unranked was 22 years ago.
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Post by tomclen on Aug 31, 2014 19:04:38 GMT -5
Conventional wisdom says Stanford had the toughest competition, playing the Huskers in Nebraska.
But I don't see most voters moving them ahead of Texas or PSU, since both of those teams also are undefeated.
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Post by Boof1224 on Aug 31, 2014 19:19:11 GMT -5
I think Stanford looked good and maybe should be 1 and I'm psu fan. I can see them maybe shuffling Texas and Stanford but with Stanford playing psu next weekend no reason to change that. I think if psu loses they drop to 3 and if Stanford loses Texas would be back at 2. That's only reason I can see them flopping Texas and Stanford
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Post by Boof1224 on Aug 31, 2014 19:21:48 GMT -5
Stanford only team that has quality win. Neither Texas or psu really played anyone. Only the fact that Stanford plays psu next weekend is why psu won't be moved this week. Cause that will be sorted next weekend
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 31, 2014 19:39:59 GMT -5
lets remember folks....as long as teams win, VERY RARELY do they drop in the rankings. Going 5 makes little to no difference, especially considering it was the first weekend of play. Even then, teams usually jump other teams because the team doing the jumping beat a team higher than the teams they jumped. Whether or not that's a fair system is moot...I would be highly surprised if the top 6 change at all. Perhaps some fluctuations in amount of points, but not enough the change the actual positions.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 31, 2014 19:42:48 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see what happens with Kansas/Creighton at 22/23. Kansas beat Creighton, but also lost to Lipscomb (who CU struggled with but beat). I say knock 'em both out. (And throw Mizzou in there as well).
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Post by X-Play on Aug 31, 2014 19:43:42 GMT -5
You obviously have no clue how the poll works if you think a loss to a ranked team will send Hawaii spiraling downward out of the poll yet at the same time a win over Hawaii will boost ASU ten spots up in the poll. They lost to a ranked 25 team in a sweep. Like I said, they will go down to the low 20-25. ASU, may not go up that high, but I was mainly speaking to how good they are Well now you are saying something different than what you originally stated as fact which was " I know one thing, hawaii will either fall out or be near the Bottom of the poll" and the prediction that " ASU will be around 15. I was pointing out how your original logic made no sense as written. Based on how the poll works, Hawaii should drop some and ASU will move up some and they will probably be around the same place in the poll. In any event, it's way too early in the season to care much about where a team lands. (And please save the "I-have-to-have-the-last-word" backpedalling response about how you are entitled to your opinion. We all get it. That's not what the issue is with you at all.)
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Post by X-Play on Aug 31, 2014 19:50:01 GMT -5
Anyhoo, I think Stanford will get a lot of #1 votes based on the competition played. I know Penn St. hasn't lost but some appreciation has to be given to the competition played so far for both teams. I have to believe some coaches are analyzing it that way.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Aug 31, 2014 19:54:57 GMT -5
They lost to a ranked 25 team in a sweep. Like I said, they will go down to the low 20-25. ASU, may not go up that high, but I was mainly speaking to how good they are Well now you are saying something different than what you originally stated as fact which was " I know one thing, hawaii will either fall out or be near the Bottom of the poll" and the prediction that " ASU will be around 15. I was pointing out how your original logic made no sense as written. Based on how the poll works, Hawaii should drop some and ASU will move up some and they will probably be around the same place in the poll. In any event, it's way too early in the season to care much about where a team lands. (And please save the "I-have-to-have-the-last-word" backpedalling response about how you are entitled to your opinion. We all get it. That's not what the issue with you at all.) The "I know one thing" was meant for the wahine. I should of put a comma. And yes they will fall that low or move out. We saw a lot of that last year, with teams dropping left and right. ASU swept a hawaii team, the voters will take that into consideration.
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Post by deathfromabove on Aug 31, 2014 20:16:07 GMT -5
1. Stanford 2. Penn State 3. Texas 4. Washington 5. USC 6. Wisconsin 7. Purdue 8. BYU 9. Illinois 10. Florida 11. Florida State 12. Michigan State 13. Colorado State 14. San Diego 15. Minnesota 16. Colorado State 17. Kentucky 18. Duke 19. North Carolina 20. Arizona State 21. Hawaii 22. Creighton 23. Kansas 24. Oregon 25. Missouri
I have no problem moving and dropping teams based on performance after the first weekend. Stanford should be rewarded for playing tough competition and leap PSU. The first poll is almost entirely reflective of the teams finish LAST year, which has very little to do with the current year. Is American a top 25 team, no way IMO. So it makes no sense to leave them in until they lose. I'll put them in when they prove they can win.
Polls should be reflective of moving people up in the poll, not waiting until they give you a reason to move them down.
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 31, 2014 20:20:27 GMT -5
1. Stanford 2. Penn State 3. Texas 4. Washington 5. USC 6. Wisconsin 7. Purdue 8. BYU 9. Illinois 10. Florida 11. Florida State 12. Michigan State 13. Colorado State 14. San Diego 15. Minnesota 16. Colorado State 17. Kentucky 18. Duke 19. North Carolina 20. Arizona State 21. Hawaii 22. Creighton 23. Kansas 24. Oregon 25. Missouri I have no problem moving and dropping teams based on performance after the first weekend. Stanford should be rewarded for playing tough competition and leap PSU. The first poll is almost entirely reflective of the teams finish LAST year, which has very little to do with the current year. Is American a top 25 team, no way IMO. So it makes no sense to leave them in until they lose. I'll put them in when they prove they can win. Polls should be reflective of moving people up in the poll, not waiting until they give you a reason to move them down. You have a pretty big omission on your list. Also, Minnesota only drops 3 after losing at home to an unranked team, yet Missouri drops 10 after losing on the road to an unranked team? ummm ok.
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Post by deathfromabove on Aug 31, 2014 20:26:17 GMT -5
1. Stanford 2. Penn State 3. Texas 4. Washington 5. USC 6. Wisconsin 7. Purdue 8. BYU 9. Illinois 10. Florida 11. Florida State 12. Michigan State 13. Colorado State 14. San Diego 15. Minnesota 16. Colorado State 17. Kentucky 18. Duke 19. North Carolina 20. Arizona State 21. Hawaii 22. Creighton 23. Kansas 24. Oregon 25. Missouri I have no problem moving and dropping teams based on performance after the first weekend. Stanford should be rewarded for playing tough competition and leap PSU. The first poll is almost entirely reflective of the teams finish LAST year, which has very little to do with the current year. Is American a top 25 team, no way IMO. So it makes no sense to leave them in until they lose. I'll put them in when they prove they can win. Polls should be reflective of moving people up in the poll, not waiting until they give you a reason to move them down. You have a pretty big omission on your list. Crap I figured I'd do that working off my damn phone. Well let's throw Nebraska at 12 behind Florida State. Guess Mizzou gets dropped!
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Post by akbar on Aug 31, 2014 20:26:59 GMT -5
The sad part is if PSU and Stanford both lose (one will Friday obviously) Texas will taken over for the remainder of year until the tourney.
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