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Post by rainbowbadger on Sept 20, 2014 10:48:55 GMT -5
I think this was a good loss for Wisconsin, if there is such a thing. They need to know what it feels like. They need to learn how to get up off the mat and keep swinging.
I'm sure Sheffield, et al, will find plenty on the tape to analyze. I really hope Bates, especially, grows from this one.
As for Kriskova, it would be awesome for her to be back strong for Wednesday, but I doubt that will happen. Maybe for Illinois in two weeks. But unless she's been scrimmaging with the starters all along, I doubt Sheff is going to just throw her in the mix for the PSU match. Too disruptive.
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 20, 2014 10:51:57 GMT -5
I think Wisconsin will be fine. I am sure the Badgers will be ready to play on Wednesday, and if it doesn't go well for them, it will be because they are up against a very talented and well coached team.
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Post by Boof1224 on Sept 20, 2014 11:04:38 GMT -5
We love having the Badgers in Seattle. A high quality program, great players and good fans. I was hoping the Husky band would play "roll out the barrel" (as the Badger pep band does) at some point just to make them feel welcome. I believe this match will give WI an emotional edge against PSU on Wednesday. Granted, they will be tired by the time they get back to Madison, but after losing such a close contest they will have an extra incentive to dominate the replay last years championship match. They will have home court advantage this time. If Morey continues with her ability to be positioned exactly where the ball is going or in several places at once as observed last night in Seattle, the Badgers will be able to defend PSUs attack. Psu has a lot stronger attack then Washington. I also believe psu floor defense is a lot stronger, plus stronger all around serving. Washington to this point has the bigger block. Psu plays a lot faster pace. Badgers gonna have to deal with different things against psu then they did Washington. Badgers do have the advantage of playing on their home court. Should be a good match.
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Post by badgerbill on Sept 20, 2014 11:04:50 GMT -5
If Kriskova is still having swelling and that is her main issue at this time, won't playing a match cause more swelling? Joint surgeries of any kind lead to some swelling, and I am sure intensive activities would lead to swelling for quite some time. I sure would like to see Kriskobva in the lineup, but she needs to be 100% and able to rebound after each match.
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Post by Boof1224 on Sept 20, 2014 11:08:16 GMT -5
When I say attack im talking about all around team attack not who has best attacker. Vasant is good. As far as team goes though think psu is stronger as whole
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Post by Boof1224 on Sept 20, 2014 11:10:45 GMT -5
Psu lost 3 all Americans and psu starting 3 freshman so on paper based on last years results Wisconsin should have huge edge but u never know. Psu faired well against Stanford on Stanford's home court. They had that match within grasp and just made a few to many errors in 5th set
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Post by NittanyVolley on Sept 20, 2014 11:19:56 GMT -5
Yes, yes we do. I like to wait for the match notes to come out. And a well designed thread will have all the appropriate links for following the match. Instead of making people looking on their own. (Hint hint) Great matchups, but jeez second time in a row Badgers get to board a plane from SeaTac with a heartbreaking loss. I do see this as agood growth opportunity. I only got the radio feed, but I could tell Chapman and Bates struggled. So proud of this team, though,and special shoutout to Thomas who has just been rock solid from the right this season. Agree that the "12:30" finish certainly did not help. Quite frankly, too, the travel back, the loss,and PSU's cupcake weekend dont bode well for Wed. Now, now, if PSU doesn't schedule cupcakes in the pre-conference, they won't get a chance to practice beating up on cupcakes before they have to do it in the initial rounds of the NCAA tournament. Nobody in the Big Ten has earned the right to talk smack about Penn State. Nebraska might be an exception, but they earned that right before they joined the B1G. I was delighted to see Washington win last night, as it seems the Fightin' Carlinis and their fans are just a little too full of themselves and have been since the FF last year.
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Post by Wiswell on Sept 20, 2014 11:26:45 GMT -5
I would like to see some examples of this.
Proud of and full of are not the same thing.
Full of: nitneliun and other iterations.
Proud of: bucky415, rainbow, badgerbreath, gobucky, wisconsinfan.
Respectful of: several ,Minnie fans, dorothy, etc.
Dont lump one or two posters as all fans, as I am sure you dont like it when the jerky and illiterate PSU fans on the board arent all of the PSU fans.
Oh, and pelj doesnt count. He is not one of us. I have been with them since the Other Carlini was around.
And DePaul is a cupcake.
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Post by redheaded1 on Sept 20, 2014 12:00:18 GMT -5
Well Jones isn't going to play middle at the UW this year or next year, unless something happens to Wade or Sybeldon. So if they can get her on court as an outside, that's the only way they can use her. So far, though, it's not been consistently successful. I believe she played middle a year or two in high school, but then she was needed at the pins. If she didn't play at the pins, I believe her team wouldn't have done as well as they did those seasons. It's unfortunate for her because she has two players ahead of her who are playing better than she is at the middle Jones has not played middle , so you can't say that the others are playing better than she. Jones is a great athlete who will continue to grow and learn her role on this team. I believe that she is a great investment for the future. I think she will transition back to middle her Jr year. The duo of Wade and Sybeldon is a lock. I would love to see Jones and Fitzmorris as the future UW middle Duo. It would be a great mix of the 2012 GYNT , Scambray, Jones, Schwan and Fitzmorris. Wishful thinking!
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 20, 2014 12:23:17 GMT -5
Now, now, if PSU doesn't schedule cupcakes in the pre-conference, they won't get a chance to practice beating up on cupcakes before they have to do it in the initial rounds of the NCAA tournament. Nobody in the Big Ten has earned the right to talk smack about Penn State. Nebraska might be an exception, but they earned that right before they joined the B1G. I was delighted to see Washington win last night, as it seems the Fightin' Carlinis and their fans are just a little too full of themselves and have been since the FF last year. You do realize that defensiveness is a sign of fear, guilt and/or weakness, right? What you should have done is turned it a complement, for why else would PSU need practice beating up cupcakes going into the NCAA unless they were successful during the season. On thing I will say about PSU, is that they haven't shown quite the ebbs and flows in concentration against the lesser teams that UW has. Maybe that is because they can get by on their talent alone in those matches, whereas UW's style and personnel requires commitment, concentration and integration.
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 20, 2014 12:30:33 GMT -5
Post match quote: Wisconsin was tough, Vansant acknowledged, but no tougher than what she sees regularly at practice. “We play against that (brand of defense) at practice all the time,” she said. “Our defense on our side is ridiculous all the time.”
haha...that's the funniest thing I've read all week. I love my huskies, but the backcourt defense is not even close to that of Wisconsin. Even when UW did dig balls off of good swings by Wisconsin, rarely were they good touches to the setters....the setters had to flop so many sets in transition, whereas Wisconsin had a lot of really great transitions because the quality of their digs were FAR superior. Yeah, yeah, yeah, UW had fewer digs because they had more blocks, sure, but they weren't going to get 22 more digs, and regardless, most of those digs would not have been quality touches. People seem to miss the second aspect of great backcourt defense. It's not just about keeping the ball off the ground, it's about how well you can transition after you keep the ball off the ground. The Wisconsin defenders put up 2-3 times as many passes off of digs that any setter in the country could work with and run an offense. A lot of Washington's "digs" were scrambles just to get the ball back over the net. The UW backcourt started playing better for the second half of the match, but to suggest that the UW backcourt is, as Vansant says, "ridiculous all the time" is kind of a joke.
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Post by Boof1224 on Sept 20, 2014 12:37:39 GMT -5
Nobody in the Big Ten has earned the right to talk smack about Penn State. Nebraska might be an exception, but they earned that right before they joined the B1G. I was delighted to see Washington win last night, as it seems the Fightin' Carlinis and their fans are just a little too full of themselves and have been since the FF last year. You do realize that defensiveness is a sign of fear, guilt and/or weakness, right? What you should have done is turned it a complement, for why else would PSU need practice beating up cupcakes going into the NCAA unless they were successful during the season. On thing I will say about PSU, is that they haven't shown quite the ebbs and flows in concentration against the lesser teams that UW has. Maybe that is because they can get by on their talent alone in those matches, whereas UW's style and personnel requires commitment, concentration and integration. It's because psu has three freshman on the floor. It's gonna take them some time to find that flow. In the meantime there athletic ability has suited fine. So your saying psu doesn't commit or concentrate to eAch match they go into. Sounds a bit ridiculous to me
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Post by GoUCLA on Sept 20, 2014 12:42:25 GMT -5
I believe she played middle a year or two in high school, but then she was needed at the pins. If she didn't play at the pins, I believe her team wouldn't have done as well as they did those seasons. It's unfortunate for her because she has two players ahead of her who are playing better than she is at the middle Jones has not played middle , so you can't say that the others are playing better than she. Jones is a great athlete who will continue to grow and learn her role on this team. I believe that she is a great investment for the future. I think she will transition back to middle her Jr year. The duo of Wade and Sybeldon is a lock. I would love to see Jones and Fitzmorris as the future UW middle Duo. It would be a great mix of the 2012 GYNT , Scambray, Jones, Schwan and Fitzmorris. Wishful thinking! Well, I would think that before the season started that the coach assessed this. I'm pretty sure he didn't just decide on Wade and Sybeldon in the middle and throw Jones to the RS without allowing her to play that position. I could be wrong.
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Post by volleytology on Sept 20, 2014 13:04:30 GMT -5
Love it; Vanzant is old school cocky
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Post by redbeard2008 on Sept 20, 2014 13:25:05 GMT -5
Jones has not played middle , so you can't say that the others are playing better than she. Jones is a great athlete who will continue to grow and learn her role on this team. I believe that she is a great investment for the future. I think she will transition back to middle her Jr year. The duo of Wade and Sybeldon is a lock. I would love to see Jones and Fitzmorris as the future UW middle Duo. It would be a great mix of the 2012 GYNT , Scambray, Jones, Schwan and Fitzmorris. Wishful thinking! Both teams had frosh who struggled. Don't know enough about Bates to say, but Jones is going to be a great player. She's playing a position she's never played before (OPP), getting second-thought sets, and is being set by another frosh (Tanner) who's also having her own struggles. The positive is that Washington could win a match like this with three freshmen starting, four playing. Don't know about Fitzmorris - she's likely going where she can step right in as a starter, which won't be Washington. UW does need to bring in some middles, however.
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