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Post by tomclen on Sept 20, 2014 19:19:58 GMT -5
BADGERBREATH: I agree, it's a shame Pac12 network and BTN didn't work out an arrangement to allow each to pick up the others feeds for these inter-conference matches. Maybe they can work that out for future years. Must be very frustrating to have not been able to watch this...and ironically, PAC-12 is now doing a very good job with their volleyball broadcast work, at least on this match. It was quite good.
Regarding Strickland, I just watched the 5th set again (tivo) and I'm thinking my earlier concerns about Strickland were misplaced. I know what the stats say about last night, but in some ways Strickland OWNED that 5th set. She made several absolutely spectacular plays, including one that ended up a point for Wisconsin. At 13-9 she chased after an errant deflection and slid into the scorers table to keep the ball in the air. Vansant would have been able to play it if she hadn't tripped over the sliding Strickland. It was right in front of the Husky bench and even though it was a point for Wisconsin I think it was one of those all-out leaving nothing on the floor plays that fired up the team. I think when this team gels further, Strickland may end up being a spectacular libero. We all can see she has more drive and intensity than most normal humans should have.
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Post by chisovnik on Sept 20, 2014 19:20:26 GMT -5
Does Washington have anyone coming in for 2016?
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Post by Huskyfan on Sept 20, 2014 21:11:20 GMT -5
Does Washington have anyone coming in for 2016? The one I know so far is a libero/sand player Shayne McPherson, a local girl from Puget Sound VBC. Washington will lose 4 players to graduation: Wade, Sybeldon, Strickland and Beale. One player who may be interested in Washington for 2016 is Roneka Stone from Vision. Is she a middle?
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Post by tomclen on Sept 20, 2014 21:29:03 GMT -5
Does Washington have anyone coming in for 2016? The one I know so far is a libero/sand player Shayne McPherson, a local girl from Puget Sound VBC. Washington will lose 4 players to graduation: Wade, Sybeldon, Strickland and Beale. One player who may be interested in Washington for 2016 is Roneka Stone from Vision. Is she a middle? You left out Vansant!
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Post by alwayslearning on Sept 20, 2014 21:35:19 GMT -5
The only seniors for the Huskies this year are Vansant and Nelson. Beals, Wade, and Sybeldon are all juniors. Not sure where your info is coming from.
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 20, 2014 21:54:14 GMT -5
The only seniors for the Huskies this year are Vansant and Nelson. Beals, Wade, and Sybeldon are all juniors. Not sure where your info is coming from. The talk was about incoming players in 2016. So the reference was to 2015 seniors.
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Post by Huskyfan on Sept 20, 2014 21:58:26 GMT -5
The only seniors for the Huskies this year are Vansant and Nelson. Beals, Wade, and Sybeldon are all juniors. Not sure where your info is coming from. The talk was about incoming players in 2016. So the reference was to 2015 seniors. Thank you Mike!
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Post by tomclen on Sept 20, 2014 23:06:53 GMT -5
Nice post-match story on Volleyblog Seattle with some great photos...and this item: Read the full story here: Volleyblog Seattle
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Post by hammer on Sept 21, 2014 0:02:17 GMT -5
Does Washington have anyone coming in for 2016? The one I know so far is a libero/sand player Shayne McPherson, a local girl from Puget Sound VBC. Washington will lose 4 players to graduation: Wade, Sybeldon, Strickland and Beale. One player who may be interested in Washington for 2016 is Roneka Stone from Vision. Is she a middle? That's Ronika Stone and she plays (or can play) both OH and MB. IMO she is better at the OH (left side) position.
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Post by Mocha on Sept 21, 2014 0:22:27 GMT -5
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 21, 2014 0:32:39 GMT -5
BADGERBREATH: I agree, it's a shame Pac12 network and BTN didn't work out an arrangement to allow each to pick up the others feeds for these inter-conference matches. Maybe they can work that out for future years. Must be very frustrating to have not been able to watch this...and ironically, PAC-12 is now doing a very good job with their volleyball broadcast work, at least on this match. It was quite good. Regarding Strickland, I just watched the 5th set again (tivo) and I'm thinking my earlier concerns about Strickland were misplaced. I know what the stats say about last night, but in some ways Strickland OWNED that 5th set. She made several absolutely spectacular plays, including one that ended up a point for Wisconsin. At 13-9 she chased after an errant deflection and slid into the scorers table to keep the ball in the air. Vansant would have been able to play it if she hadn't tripped over the sliding Strickland. It was right in front of the Husky bench and even though it was a point for Wisconsin I think it was one of those all-out leaving nothing on the floor plays that fired up the team. I think when this team gels further, Strickland may end up being a spectacular libero. We all can see she has more drive and intensity than most normal humans should have. I don't think she "OWNED" any set. In the second half the match she started playing closer to the level of libero a top team like Washington should have, and are accustomed to since J-Mac has taken over. IMO she looked "great" because she sucked so bad in the first two sets...but it wasn't GREAT play the second half of the match, it was above average. Morey was still miles better than her every single set, not just in the number of touches, but the QUALITY of the touches. Though I will say that strickland picked up Carlini's tips, that was a definite plus. Also, perhaps, if she played better in the first set (she had 1 dig), we wouldn't have had to have a 5th set! She sure does go after SOME balls, I'll give her that. however, on too many occasions she thought a ball was out and it wasn't (not even close on some of those swings) so perhaps she's not aggressive in the areas a great libero should be. I'd much rather a libero at least try to make a play on the ball off a quality swing that could be a bit long, than a libero sacrificing her body into the scorers table for a SECOND contact which probably wouldn't have made it back over the net anyway (and, in this case, it didn't, so it really wasn't that spectacular of a play now was it?). I recall one play late in the 4th set (or perhaps in the 5th) where the UW fans really wanted a double on the set, but it wasn't called, the set went to the Wisconsin OH, Strickland was playing pretty far up and left the entire left side of the court open. The shot from the Wisconsin OH was a loopy roll shot (very little power, plenty of time to track down and play it up), trying to catch line cross court. STRICKLAND JUST STOOD THERE...she didn't even run towards the ball, which, was just a hair out. I saw that play and rolled my eyes. I almost wanted the ball to be in just to prove a point. I'm hard on Strickland because she's in there for 5 1/2 rotations, and too often she's more of a liability than an asset. Yes, I've been spoiled most years by libero play at Washington, but now Strickland is in that roll. I'm not going to dumb down my standards just because she's playing that position.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Sept 21, 2014 0:58:41 GMT -5
Yes, there's a good deal of room for improvement - I remember fans also getting on Orlandini her sophomore year. I'm not expecting perfection, but progress. I saw some this match, will be looking for more.
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Post by vllybll09 on Sept 21, 2014 1:02:39 GMT -5
BADGERBREATH: I agree, it's a shame Pac12 network and BTN didn't work out an arrangement to allow each to pick up the others feeds for these inter-conference matches. Maybe they can work that out for future years. Must be very frustrating to have not been able to watch this...and ironically, PAC-12 is now doing a very good job with their volleyball broadcast work, at least on this match. It was quite good. Regarding Strickland, I just watched the 5th set again (tivo) and I'm thinking my earlier concerns about Strickland were misplaced. I know what the stats say about last night, but in some ways Strickland OWNED that 5th set. She made several absolutely spectacular plays, including one that ended up a point for Wisconsin. At 13-9 she chased after an errant deflection and slid into the scorers table to keep the ball in the air. Vansant would have been able to play it if she hadn't tripped over the sliding Strickland. It was right in front of the Husky bench and even though it was a point for Wisconsin I think it was one of those all-out leaving nothing on the floor plays that fired up the team. I think when this team gels further, Strickland may end up being a spectacular libero. We all can see she has more drive and intensity than most normal humans should have. I don't think she "OWNED" any set. In the second half the match she started playing closer to the level of libero a top team like Washington should have, and are accustomed to since J-Mac has taken over. IMO she looked "great" because she sucked so bad in the first two sets...but it wasn't GREAT play the second half of the match, it was above average. Morey was still miles better than her every single set, not just in the number of touches, but the QUALITY of the touches. Though I will say that strickland picked up Carlini's tips, that was a definite plus. Also, perhaps, if she played better in the first set (she had 1 dig), we wouldn't have had to have a 5th set! She sure does go after SOME balls, I'll give her that. however, on too many occasions she thought a ball was out and it wasn't (not even close on some of those swings) so perhaps she's not aggressive in the areas a great libero should be. I'd much rather a libero at least try to make a play on the ball off a quality swing that could be a bit long, than a libero sacrificing her body into the scorers table for a SECOND contact which probably wouldn't have made it back over the net anyway (and, in this case, it didn't, so it really wasn't that spectacular of a play now was it?). I recall one play late in the 4th set (or perhaps in the 5th) where the UW fans really wanted a double on the set, but it wasn't called, the set went to the Wisconsin OH, Strickland was playing pretty far up and left the entire left side of the court open. The shot from the Wisconsin OH was a loopy roll shot (very little power, plenty of time to track down and play it up), trying to catch line cross court. STRICKLAND JUST STOOD THERE...she didn't even run towards the ball, which, was just a hair out. I saw that play and rolled my eyes. I almost wanted the ball to be in just to prove a point. I'm hard on Strickland because she's in there for 5 1/2 rotations, and too often she's more of a liability than an asset. Yes, I've been spoiled most years by libero play at Washington, but now Strickland is in that roll. I'm not going to dumb down my standards just because she's playing that position. Seriously? You have got to be one of the most impossible people to impress. Also, you seem to be very sure that your opinion is all that matters or is the last word on what is acceptable and/or possible. I wonder, Does coach McLaughlin consult you before he makes his coaching decisions since you are obviously so well versed in the game and all the capabilities of all the players that are playing it. Come on?! More of a liability than an asset? Just because a libero isn't touching every dig doesn't mean that they are ineffective and less of an asset. Strickland was out there directing that team throughout the entire match. When McLaughlin wanted to get another player on the court "refocused" or light a fire under them, guess who he was sending to do that? She is out there holding her teammates accountable and helping them to be able to play their game by Constantly talking and directing her team with passion and fire. Also, maybe just dial back your unnecessary rudeness? I don't care who the player is or on what team, there is really no need for you or anyone to say they "sucked" with such apparent disdain and criticism. Before you go questioning my "expectations" of Strickland or this team, know that I can recognize struggles in her game, as well as everyone else. You just make it so hard to get past your attitude to find the value in any observation you may be making. Seriously though, calm the hell down with the constant negativity and maybe give the her some credit, even Sheff did that...
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 21, 2014 1:42:03 GMT -5
I don't think she "OWNED" any set. In the second half the match she started playing closer to the level of libero a top team like Washington should have, and are accustomed to since J-Mac has taken over. IMO she looked "great" because she sucked so bad in the first two sets...but it wasn't GREAT play the second half of the match, it was above average. Morey was still miles better than her every single set, not just in the number of touches, but the QUALITY of the touches. Though I will say that strickland picked up Carlini's tips, that was a definite plus. Also, perhaps, if she played better in the first set (she had 1 dig), we wouldn't have had to have a 5th set! She sure does go after SOME balls, I'll give her that. however, on too many occasions she thought a ball was out and it wasn't (not even close on some of those swings) so perhaps she's not aggressive in the areas a great libero should be. I'd much rather a libero at least try to make a play on the ball off a quality swing that could be a bit long, than a libero sacrificing her body into the scorers table for a SECOND contact which probably wouldn't have made it back over the net anyway (and, in this case, it didn't, so it really wasn't that spectacular of a play now was it?). I recall one play late in the 4th set (or perhaps in the 5th) where the UW fans really wanted a double on the set, but it wasn't called, the set went to the Wisconsin OH, Strickland was playing pretty far up and left the entire left side of the court open. The shot from the Wisconsin OH was a loopy roll shot (very little power, plenty of time to track down and play it up), trying to catch line cross court. STRICKLAND JUST STOOD THERE...she didn't even run towards the ball, which, was just a hair out. I saw that play and rolled my eyes. I almost wanted the ball to be in just to prove a point. I'm hard on Strickland because she's in there for 5 1/2 rotations, and too often she's more of a liability than an asset. Yes, I've been spoiled most years by libero play at Washington, but now Strickland is in that roll. I'm not going to dumb down my standards just because she's playing that position. Seriously? You have got to be one of the most impossible people to impress. Also, you seem to be very sure that your opinion is all that matters or is the last word on what is acceptable and/or possible. I wonder, Does coach McLaughlin consult you before he makes his coaching decisions since you are obviously so well versed in the game and all the capabilities of all the players that are playing it. Come on?! More of a liability than an asset? Just because a libero isn't touching every dig doesn't mean that they are ineffective and less of an asset. Strickland was out there directing that team throughout the entire match. When McLaughlin wanted to get another player on the court "refocused" or light a fire under them, guess who he was sending to do that? She is out there holding her teammates accountable and helping them to be able to play their game by Constantly talking and directing her team with passion and fire. Also, maybe just dial back your unnecessary rudeness? I don't care who the player is or on what team, there is really no need for you or anyone to say they "sucked" with such apparent disdain and criticism. Before you go questioning my "expectations" of Strickland or this team, know that I can recognize struggles in her game, as well as everyone else. You just make it so hard to get past your attitude to find the value in any observation you may be making. Seriously though, calm the hell down with the constant negativity and maybe give the her some credit, even Sheff did that... 1- I have high expectations, which have been set by a program that is very good and expects high level of play. I make no apologies for holding Washington players to higher standards 2-I'm pretty sure I use "I" in my comments. This is a message board to discuss various opinions. If we all agreed, it would be boring. Just because I don't happen to share your or others people's opinions, doesn't make me wrong. Considering that you responded to my post, my comments certainly aren't the last words, otherwise you would just shut up and agree ...but then, like I said before, this message board wouldn't be very much fun. 3- No McLaughlin does not consult me regarding his coaching decisions, but one doesn't need to be in a coaches inner circle to have an opinion about a player. 4- I never said Strickland should be touching every ball, but even you have to admit that having 2 digs through 2 sets is NOT GOOD, regardless of whatever else you are doing on the court for the team. 5- I'm glad she's being a great on the floor cheerleader and inspiring other players to do better, really I am....perhaps she should take her own advice and passion and channel it to her play more often? that we we can have a vocal and passionate libero that inspires other people, and a libero that actually plays the game at a high level, consistently. 6-She did suck the first two sets, if that's rude, so be it. Go back through and read the match thread...other posters commented about how bad our libero was on backcourt defense. I'm not going to sugar coat poor play. If I was raving about someone's play THAT's ok, right..... but talking about how bad someone's play is, that's NOT ok? These aren't children, they can deal with unfiltered criticism. I'm not calling her names or disrespecting her as a person, I'm commenting on what I see regarding her play on the court. It's perfectly valid. 7-I'm not going to change what I write simply because you are put off, and I certainly don't lose any sleep at night wondering if you find value in what I have to say. When Strickland consistently plays to the level that the team needs, I will more than happily give her credit. And, BTW I distinctly remember commenting about how successful she was at reading the Carlini tips, effectively making that offensive option for Wisconsin moot.
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Post by tomclen on Sept 21, 2014 10:05:41 GMT -5
None of us here get the final word on Washington or Strickland. Only JMac gets that, thankfully!
I don't disagree that the backrow defense of UW has been less than stellar. However, I tend to see the progress. And a lot of that progress happened right before our eyes Friday night.
There was a fair amount of miscommunication and balls surprisingly hitting the floor on Washington's side in the first three sets. Even reading thru this thread you can see comments about how Wisconsin wasn't letting anything hit the floor and how their backrow defense was superior.
But sets 4 and 5 it was Washington that wasn't letting many balls hit the floor. Sure the blocking was outstanding, but Strickland made some spectacular plays in sets 4 and 5 and made some great passes and sets.
She's not Hagglund, of course. Or not even Orlandini, yet. But then again, in her first season as UW's libero, Orlandini wasn't Orlandini, yet.
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