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Post by tomclen on Sept 23, 2014 16:11:10 GMT -5
There's been a fair amount of grumbling debate in other threads about Strickland, the Washington libero who is playing the position for the first time ever after playing OH the last two years. Good timing from GoHuskies.com They have a feature story on Strickland posted today. One highlight: Here's a link to the full article.
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Post by Volley1234 on Sept 23, 2014 16:17:22 GMT -5
I like her skills and ability but like Deme Morales she is either a full rotation outside or a DS, neither are elite liberos.
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Post by Incognito on Sept 23, 2014 16:27:05 GMT -5
JMac seems to disagree with you. She may not be there yet, but she will work harder than heck to get there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 16:31:57 GMT -5
Great article. I'm sure she is working hard and it will be nice to see how her new position works out for her. I know a few years ago there was some rumbling about Jo.
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Post by downtheline on Sept 23, 2014 16:52:34 GMT -5
A heart of a lion and a heart of gold. A great kid with a strong family.
I have loved watching CS play since a very young age. She will accomplish whatever she sets out to do.
She filled in when Summer left and will be a great back row played as well. Also an excellent beach player.
You want this athlete on the court whenever possible, imho.
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Post by volleyfan24 on Sept 23, 2014 20:08:12 GMT -5
I don't know if Strickland will ever reach the lofty standard UW fans are used to at the libero position. Orliandini and Miyashiro were elite. Giving Strickland such a short amount of time to adjust there definitely will be growing pains. Also running a 6-2 your libero has to cover so much court with the setter usually cheating forward a little.
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 23, 2014 20:15:56 GMT -5
I don't know if Strickland will ever reach the lofty standard UW fans are used to at the libero position. Orliandini and Miyashiro were elite. Candace Lee was pretty decent, too.
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Post by tomclen on Sept 23, 2014 20:18:39 GMT -5
This is becoming a routine.
Miyashiro wasn't good enough to replace Lee, but then became good enough that Orlandini wasn't good enough to replace Miyashiro, but then became good enough that Strickland isn't good enough to replace Orlandini.
Seems like JMac either knows how to pick talented liberos or knows how to really coach up liberos....or both.
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 23, 2014 22:30:30 GMT -5
This is becoming a routine. Miyashiro wasn't good enough to replace Lee, but then became good enough that Orlandini wasn't good enough to replace Miyashiro, but then became good enough that Strickland isn't good enough to replace Orlandini. Seems like JMac either knows how to pick talented liberos or knows how to really coach up liberos....or both. Miyashiro WAS good enough to replace Lee, she had a great her freshmen year, period. Orlandini, while not living up to Miyashiro's freshmen standards when she was a freshmen, was still solid. Right now, I'd take a freshmen Orlandini than a junior Strickland. Strickland's reading of the defense and touches on the ball (both in passing and digging) is NOT consistently good. It's not like she's practicing these skills for the first time in career. She's spent most of her life in the backcourt. She's regressed backcourt, probably for a variety of reasons, but regressed nonetheless. I have seen every single televised or streamed UW match for years, some multiple times, and Strickland was passing and digging better her freshmen year and half of her sophomore year. Ever since the second half of last year she's been sub standard for a team this caliber. Sure now she's playing exclusively backcourt, and can't rely on a senior leader to truly rule the backcourt, but that shouldn't, and doesn't change her abilities. I've seen balls hit straight at her in the last few weeks that have been plainly shanked of just poor technique on defense. She may have high standards for herself, and that's great, but that doesn't mean she's playing to that high standard. I call it like I see it.
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Post by vballgrl on Sept 23, 2014 22:31:45 GMT -5
A heart of a lion and a heart of gold. A great kid with a strong family. I have loved watching CS play since a very young age. She will accomplish whatever she sets out to do. She filled in when Summer left and will be a great back row played as well. Also an excellent beach player. You want this athlete on the court whenever possible, imho. Absolutely, 100% agree with this post.
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Post by Huskyfan on Sept 23, 2014 22:33:03 GMT -5
This is becoming a routine. Miyashiro wasn't good enough to replace Lee, but then became good enough that Orlandini wasn't good enough to replace Miyashiro, but then became good enough that Strickland isn't good enough to replace Orlandini. Seems like JMac either knows how to pick talented liberos or knows how to really coach up liberos....or both. Miyashiro WAS good enough to replace Lee, she had a great her freshmen year, period. Orlandini, while not living up to Miyashiro's freshmen standards when she was a freshmen, was still solid. Right now, I'd take a freshmen Orlandini than a junior Strickland. Strickland's reading of the defense and touches on the ball (both in passing and digging) is NOT consistently good. It's not like she's practicing these skills for the first time in career. She's spend most of her life in the backcourt. She's regressed backcourt, probably for a variety of reasons, but regressed nonetheless. I have seen every single televised or streamed UW match for years, some multiple times, and Strickland was passing and digging better her freshmen year and half of her sophomore year. Ever since the second half of last year she's been sub standard for a team this caliber. Sure now she's playing exclusively backcourt, and can't rely on a senior leader to truly rule the backcourt, but that shouldn't, and doesn't change her abilities. I've seen balls hit straight at her in the last few weeks that have been plainly shanked of just poor technique on defense. She may have high standards for herself, and that's great, but that doesn't mean she's playing to that high standard. I call it like I see it. Blah Blah Blah
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 23, 2014 22:34:39 GMT -5
Miyashiro WAS good enough to replace Lee, she had a great her freshmen year, period. Orlandini, while not living up to Miyashiro's freshmen standards when she was a freshmen, was still solid. Right now, I'd take a freshmen Orlandini than a junior Strickland. Strickland's reading of the defense and touches on the ball (both in passing and digging) is NOT consistently good. It's not like she's practicing these skills for the first time in career. She's spend most of her life in the backcourt. She's regressed backcourt, probably for a variety of reasons, but regressed nonetheless. I have seen every single televised or streamed UW match for years, some multiple times, and Strickland was passing and digging better her freshmen year and half of her sophomore year. Ever since the second half of last year she's been sub standard for a team this caliber. Sure now she's playing exclusively backcourt, and can't rely on a senior leader to truly rule the backcourt, but that shouldn't, and doesn't change her abilities. I've seen balls hit straight at her in the last few weeks that have been plainly shanked of just poor technique on defense. She may have high standards for herself, and that's great, but that doesn't mean she's playing to that high standard. I call it like I see it. Blah Blah Blah and what part of my comment do you disagree with?
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Post by vllybll09 on Sept 24, 2014 0:33:04 GMT -5
This is becoming a routine. Miyashiro wasn't good enough to replace Lee, but then became good enough that Orlandini wasn't good enough to replace Miyashiro, but then became good enough that Strickland isn't good enough to replace Orlandini. Seems like JMac either knows how to pick talented liberos or knows how to really coach up liberos....or both. Miyashiro WAS good enough to replace Lee, she had a great her freshmen year, period. Orlandini, while not living up to Miyashiro's freshmen standards when she was a freshmen, was still solid. Right now, I'd take a freshmen Orlandini than a junior Strickland. Strickland's reading of the defense and touches on the ball (both in passing and digging) is NOT consistently good. It's not like she's practicing these skills for the first time in career. She's spent most of her life in the backcourt. She's regressed backcourt, probably for a variety of reasons, but regressed nonetheless. I have seen every single televised or streamed UW match for years, some multiple times, and Strickland was passing and digging better her freshmen year and half of her sophomore year. Ever since the second half of last year she's been sub standard for a team this caliber. Sure now she's playing exclusively backcourt, and can't rely on a senior leader to truly rule the backcourt, but that shouldn't, and doesn't change her abilities. I've seen balls hit straight at her in the last few weeks that have been plainly shanked of just poor technique on defense. She may have high standards for herself, and that's great, but that doesn't mean she's playing to that high standard. I call it like I see it. Congratulations, you "call it like you see it"....that doesn't mean that the way you "see" it is how it is. I would love to see you do what these players are doing to the level that they are doing it and trying to achieve...honestly, what exactly qualifies you to judge how well or terribly players are doing? Yes, it is your opinion, but maybe just once in a while you could take into consideration that every thought you have or opinion you form may not be accurate or fully informed. Obviously McLaughlin has faith, maybe give some creedance to someone with the qualifications to assess the situation? Give the girl some time, it's all a progressive and forever changing process. She works hard and has all the fight anyone could want, you say you love all your DAWGS and have hope that she will fullfill her potential, maybe demonstrate that by not cutting her down whenever given the opportunity?
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 24, 2014 0:47:20 GMT -5
Guys, it's an internet forum. Accept that people have opinions. Nothing "gives them the right" to have those opinions. They don't need anything to give them that right.
If you don't think AY is right, then that's cool. Either argue with him or ignore him. But don't try shaming him into silence. That's not conducive to an interesting or respectful discussion.
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Post by vllybll09 on Sept 24, 2014 0:56:01 GMT -5
Guys, it's an internet forum. Accept that people have opinions. Nothing "gives them the right" to have those opinions. They don't need anything to give them that right. If you don't think AY is right, then that's cool. Either argue with him or ignore him. But don't try shaming him into silence. That's not conducive to an interesting or respectful discussion. Fair enough and point taken, a rough day at work may have gotten the best of me
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