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Post by notpriddy (COIF) on Oct 21, 2014 6:24:51 GMT -5
Sometimes I wonder if coaches do read Volleytalk I believe there is hardly a high profile college team that does not have some personality conflict/conflicts among their team members. Most Coaches are probably not even aware of these off the court problems. The important thing is for these personality conflicts to not carry over onto the court. Coach Shondell may be preaching to his Boilermaker team as much as making a positive general statement about his Boilers. This TEAM mentality is what every coach hopes for. If the Boilers are all putting 'team' before themselves and their individual goals, it has not always been that way with Val Nichol. I have already posted what I witnessed at a preseason Louisville tourney in 2012 when the Coaches Shondell were trying to change Nichol from a pure hitter to a part-time setter in a 6-2. It was obvious she was not having it at the time, and her performance in the Louisville-Purdue match showed it. Purdue ds/lib last season, Carly Cramer, also made a statement (during the time of the NCAA tourney) that Nichol had not always bought into her new role as a setter for the Boilers. Cramer said it was not until Nichol decided to buy into her setting role that Purdue's volleyball fortunes improved. (By the way, does any other B1G fan miss the all-out defensive play of Cramer. ALL HEART, and a total TEAM PLAYER...also very intelligent player...was she not an engineering major!)
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Post by Billy on Oct 21, 2014 6:54:03 GMT -5
I find it quite interesting that my earlier post was deleted by Odin. It is Ok on the board for friends or family of players or coaches to post that every lost match is Mary's fault. Where do you think the practice and China setting grades that have been referred to several times come from? It is just fine on this board to trash a player, but when you provide real facts that don't shed a coach in good light the moderator deletes it. Who has the power to make that happen?
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Post by austintatious on Oct 21, 2014 7:00:21 GMT -5
Now that you mention it; it's been awhile since I've seen a post from Dorothy! GO HUSKERS You must have missed it. He had some drama. I totally missed it. What thread? Would like to review. Great poster but did buty himself a few years ago under another name. Sorry to hear it may have hapened again.
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Post by austintatious on Oct 21, 2014 7:16:07 GMT -5
Wondering how much of all this dirt can be true? GO HUSKERS I find it strange that as someone who is not a fan of Cook (for my own reasons not mentioned in this thread) that all of a sudden so much is coming out. You ask how mich of this is true. Hard to say, but more importantly, the perceptions of many seem to be the same. Wher there is smoke theres fire. I always wondered how the kids related to him but am Shocked to read the treatment of assistants. That amazes me and sorry to hear. I do feel bad that when the season is over this all falls on Polmiller and everyone will forget everything else.
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Post by oldmanred on Oct 21, 2014 7:18:30 GMT -5
Wondering how much of all this dirt can be true? You can quit wondering. It's all true. GO HUSKERS I find it hard to believe that it is really true; You know that it is libelous if it isn't! It could surely hurt Ne's recruiting to think Nebraska treats it's girls this way and that the girls are fighting amoungst each other! GO HUSKERS
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Post by austintatious on Oct 21, 2014 7:20:34 GMT -5
It is most definitely Mary, not Haggerty, that is the issue in NE. Haggerty was amazing her freshman year and she hasn't sniffed a consistent or decent slide since then. I can't speak to the twins topic, but I get the strong impression that Mary is unwilling or unable to set the twins well. When Alicia rotates back, it just seems like Mary doesn't know what to do. Reference the three straight slides to Meghan, even though the first two were stuffed. Perhaps this is Mary's reaction to the twins' attitudes. I, for one, can't wait for the start of the Kelly Hunter era, and it now seems like JC is marking time, too. 15 yards for piling on Polmiller. First she cant set, now she is good enough to set perfectly so her hitter will get blocked,
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Post by VolleyTX on Oct 21, 2014 7:53:26 GMT -5
Cook is what he is. A great fundamental trainer and a good strategist. However he coaches for himself which is one reason many of the kids play for themselves. You could say he bears a great deal of responsibility for how the twins behave today. If you have been coaching VB in Nebraska for 20 years like I have, the twins horrible attitude is the worst kept secret in Nebraska. They committed to the huskers without ever have been to a volleyball match. Gwen Egbert, their high school coach became JC's right hand women...coaching fundamentals reasonably well but ignoring their horrible attitudes and constant berating of setters. The twins and their parents dictated to coaches who played and who the setter was. Twins were never benched for bad attitudes or the poor treatment of teammates. Got even worse at the club level with Wishmeyer. Spoiled them even worse. Any player who stood up the the twins was benched or ostracized. Likely all under Cook's supervision. Now he has to eat his own cooking...no pun intended. I would add they he is brutal on assistant coaches. He still get them to come in because they know it will help them get a head job. And of course you can't bad mouth him after you leave. But Erik Sullivan couldn't wait to get our of there and neither could Conners. For sure Werth asked for her release on more than one occasion. And don't forget Rachel Holloway. It took Cook to take the joy out playing for her. Who is the assistant coach who always sits next to him during matches? She was an ex player for the huskers. I see her every match just sitting there.... passing side eye glances to cook. She is almost completely silent during matches. If I were to read her body language, it says that she is very scared of John Cook.
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Post by oldmanred on Oct 21, 2014 8:11:36 GMT -5
If you follow Husker tweets; you wouldn't believe any ot this crap in this thread!
GO HUSKERS
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Post by SportyBucky on Oct 21, 2014 8:14:35 GMT -5
Now that you mention it; it's been awhile since I've seen a post from Dorothy! GO HUSKERS You must have missed it. He had some drama. Do tell
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Post by ilovevolleyball on Oct 21, 2014 8:17:43 GMT -5
If you follow Husker tweets; you wouldn't believe any ot this crap in this thread! GO HUSKERS I'm pretty sure girls don't tweet about how miserable it is to play with their teammates or for their coach. Social Media is monitored by coaches at schools.
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Post by volleytology on Oct 21, 2014 8:24:48 GMT -5
Cook is what he is. A great fundamental trainer and a good strategist. However he coaches for himself which is one reason many of the kids play for themselves. You could say he bears a great deal of responsibility for how the twins behave today. If you have been coaching VB in Nebraska for 20 years like I have, the twins horrible attitude is the worst kept secret in Nebraska. They committed to the huskers without ever have been to a volleyball match. Gwen Egbert, their high school coach became JC's right hand women...coaching fundamentals reasonably well but ignoring their horrible attitudes and constant berating of setters. The twins and their parents dictated to coaches who played and who the setter was. Twins were never benched for bad attitudes or the poor treatment of teammates. Got even worse at the club level with Wishmeyer. Spoiled them even worse. Any player who stood up the the twins was benched or ostracized. Likely all under Cook's supervision. Now he has to eat his own cooking...no pun intended. I would add they he is brutal on assistant coaches. He still get them to come in because they know it will help them get a head job. And of course you can't bad mouth him after you leave. But Erik Sullivan couldn't wait to get our of there and neither could Conners. For sure Werth asked for her release on more than one occasion. And don't forget Rachel Holloway. It took Cook to take the joy out playing for her. Who is the assistant coach who always sits next to him during matches? She was an ex player for the huskers. I see her every match just sitting there.... passing side eye glances to cook. She is almost completely silent during matches. If I were to read her body language, it says that she is very scared of John Cook. Cook is a competitor as is Busboom--and both are bigtime winners and competitors often get really intense during competition and they both understand that and actually love it. Huskers don't have a leader right now, struggle on defense and make too many errors, but they're still good and will be right in the thick of things at tournament time.
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Post by VolleyTX on Oct 21, 2014 8:29:09 GMT -5
Speaking of the twins..... let's discuss something other than their attitude. They are very athletic; however the thing that surprises me most about them is that they don't play very high above the net. For their height and athleticism, I would expect them to put up a bigger block and hit the ball at a higher point of contact.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 8:34:21 GMT -5
Cook is what he is. A great fundamental trainer and a good strategist. However he coaches for himself which is one reason many of the kids play for themselves. You could say he bears a great deal of responsibility for how the twins behave today. If you have been coaching VB in Nebraska for 20 years like I have, the twins horrible attitude is the worst kept secret in Nebraska. They committed to the huskers without ever have been to a volleyball match. Gwen Egbert, their high school coach became JC's right hand women...coaching fundamentals reasonably well but ignoring their horrible attitudes and constant berating of setters. The twins and their parents dictated to coaches who played and who the setter was. Twins were never benched for bad attitudes or the poor treatment of teammates. Got even worse at the club level with Wishmeyer. Spoiled them even worse. Any player who stood up the the twins was benched or ostracized. Likely all under Cook's supervision. Now he has to eat his own cooking...no pun intended. I would add they he is brutal on assistant coaches. He still get them to come in because they know it will help them get a head job. And of course you can't bad mouth him after you leave. But Erik Sullivan couldn't wait to get our of there and neither could Conners. For sure Werth asked for her release on more than one occasion. And don't forget Rachel Holloway. It took Cook to take the joy out playing for her. Who is the assistant coach who always sits next to him during matches? She was an ex player for the huskers. I see her every match just sitting there.... passing side eye glances to cook. She is almost completely silent during matches. If I were to read her body language, it says that she is very scared of John Cook. That's Dani Busboom Kelly. Played libero on the 2006 national championship team. Our last one.
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Post by volleyguy on Oct 21, 2014 8:56:35 GMT -5
If you follow Husker tweets; you wouldn't believe any ot this crap in this thread! GO HUSKERS That's the silliest, most naive thing I've read on Volleytalk in some time (unless you're being sarcastic).
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Post by BeiBei on Oct 21, 2014 9:17:26 GMT -5
I find it quite interesting that my earlier post was deleted by Odin. It is Ok on the board for friends or family of players or coaches to post that every lost match is Mary's fault. Where do you think the practice and China setting grades that have been referred to several times come from? It is just fine on this board to trash a player, but when you provide real facts that don't shed a coach in good light the moderator deletes it. Who has the power to make that happen? Think your earlier post is still on page 12
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