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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Oct 21, 2014 19:17:58 GMT -5
Seriously, anybody who has watched her play will know she is having at least a 2nd team season. And the farther Washington goes undefeated, and the longer the team stays up in the top 5 of the polls, the more AVCA voters will have watched her play. Lutz is good, sure, but nobody would vote Lutz over Sybeldon, and you have Lutz at first team! I don't even think many Stanford fans would do so. Middle play is a balance between offense and defense, and Sybeldon is probably the best middle in the country right now at balancing those two factors. Inky is the best middle in the PAC, but Lianna is a close #2. IMO, Sybeldon needs to be seen in person to really appreciate her. She does so much that doesn't show up on the stat sheet. She really impressed me when they played BYU, but haven't noticed her as much when watching on TV. Speaking of BYU, Jennifer Hamson fit in on any of these teams? Hamson? 2nd team at the minimum, likely 1st. I didn't read the OP, was Hamson actually left off completely?
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Post by redbeard2008 on Oct 21, 2014 19:22:17 GMT -5
If I was making a team, the players from the PAC (conference I've watxhed the most matches from) on the first team would be LOWE, Vansant, sybeldon, inky, bugg and boukather. Lutz maybe, but again, she is a frosh and her blocking numbers aren't great. Players on the second team would be lutz, brenner, bricio, KingDon, Simpson Third team I would have scambray, Gardner and gilbert. Boukather STAN: .326, 2.67 kills/set, 0.77 blocks/set Bettendorf ORE: .335, 3.29 kills/set, 0.60 blocks/set I doubt either will make it this year, but I'd put Nelson ahead of Scambray, with higher hitting percentage and more kills per set, although Scambray does play six rotations and Nelson three. Scambray should easily make the All-Freshman team.
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Post by azvb on Oct 21, 2014 22:17:51 GMT -5
IMO, Sybeldon needs to be seen in person to really appreciate her. She does so much that doesn't show up on the stat sheet. She really impressed me when they played BYU, but haven't noticed her as much when watching on TV. Speaking of BYU, Jennifer Hamson fit in on any of these teams? Hamson? 2nd team at the minimum, likely 1st. I didn't read the OP, was Hamson actually left off completely? Yep
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Oct 21, 2014 22:45:28 GMT -5
Hamson? 2nd team at the minimum, likely 1st. I didn't read the OP, was Hamson actually left off completely? Yep Well, that ain't right. To say the least.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 21, 2014 23:09:37 GMT -5
Actually, you can tell a lot about the original poster by which teams his suggested AAs come from. Looking at the current AVCA top 10 teams:
Stanford - 6 players Texas - 4 players Washington - 2 players FSU - 0 players Wisconsin - 4 players CSU - 0 players PSU - 5 players Florida - 1 player North Carolina - 0 players Illinois -2 players
Interesting that three teams are apparently in the top 10 without having any players at AA level, another has 1, and two more have 2. So according to this poster, six of the top 10 teams have managed to get there by sharing only five AA players between them.
At the same time, PSU has 5 all by themselves, Texas has 4, Wisconsin has 4, and Stanford has 6. So according to the OP, those four teams each have about as many AA players as the other six teams in the top 10 combined.
To me, this strongly indicates he's only really familiar with players from a few teams.
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Post by GoUCLA on Oct 21, 2014 23:29:01 GMT -5
Actually, you can tell a lot about the original poster by which teams his suggested AAs come from. Looking at the current AVCA top 10 teams: Stanford - 6 players Texas - 4 players Washington - 2 players FSU - 0 players Wisconsin - 4 players CSU - 0 players PSU - 5 players Florida - 1 player North Carolina - 0 players Illinois -2 players Interesting that three teams are apparently in the top 10 without having any players at AA level, another has 1, and two more have 2. So according to this poster, six of the top 10 teams have managed to get there by sharing only five AA players between them. At the same time, PSU has 5 all by themselves, Texas has 4, Wisconsin has 4, and Stanford has 6. So according to the OP, those four teams each have about as many AA players as the other six teams in the top 10 combined. To me, this strongly indicates he's only really familiar with players from a few teams. Your post has prompted me to ask this question: What team has won the National Championship with the least number of AA's? I know UCLA did it a few years ago with only 1 AA. Has there been a team to do it with none?
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Post by macroman on Oct 21, 2014 23:33:15 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a single team get 4 or 5 nods. If they deserve it that team should be playing for the title at the end of the year.
Now if a team with 4 or 5 AA didn't make the Final Four, that I would enjoy!
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Oct 21, 2014 23:58:02 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a single team get 4 or 5 nods. If they deserve it that team should be playing for the title at the end of the year. Now if a team with 4 or 5 AA didn't make the Final Four, that I would enjoy! Let me introduce you to the 2007 Nebraska Cornhuskers: Pavan (1st Team), Stalls (2nd), Holloway(2nd), Houghtelling (2nd), Larson (3rd). Swept by Cal in the regional final.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 22, 2014 0:30:35 GMT -5
IIRC to be eligible for AA you have to make it onto a regional AA team, right? Well the "Pacific North" region might be something of a choke point, since two of the current undefeated teams are in there (#3 Washington and #1 Stanford) along with #11 Oregon and #6 Colorado State, plus Hawaii and OSU and a few other teams with some good candidates.
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Post by Ralph Kramden on Oct 22, 2014 0:41:38 GMT -5
Seriously, anybody who has watched her play will know she is having at least a 2nd team season. And the farther Washington goes undefeated, and the longer the team stays up in the top 5 of the polls, the more AVCA voters will have watched her play. Lutz is good, sure, but nobody would vote Lutz over Sybeldon, and you have Lutz at first team! I don't even think many Stanford fans would do so. Middle play is a balance between offense and defense, and Sybeldon is probably the best middle in the country right now at balancing those two factors. Inky is the best middle in the PAC, but Lianna is a close #2. IMO, Sybeldon needs to be seen in person to really appreciate her. She does so much that doesn't show up on the stat sheet. She really impressed me when they played BYU, but haven't noticed her as much when watching on TV. Speaking of BYU, Jennifer Hamson fit in on any of these teams? What makes Sybeldon so noticeable in person is her hair. It literally flies all over giving her the impression of begin all over the court. Of course, I'm being facetious. She has truly become a very good player.
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Post by BeiBei on Oct 22, 2014 0:43:44 GMT -5
Actually, you can tell a lot about the original poster by which teams his suggested AAs come from. Looking at the current AVCA top 10 teams: Stanford - 6 players Texas - 4 players Washington - 2 players FSU - 0 players Wisconsin - 4 players CSU - 0 players PSU - 5 players Florida - 1 player North Carolina - 0 players Illinois -2 players Interesting that three teams are apparently in the top 10 without having any players at AA level, another has 1, and two more have 2. So according to this poster, six of the top 10 teams have managed to get there by sharing only five AA players between them. At the same time, PSU has 5 all by themselves, Texas has 4, Wisconsin has 4, and Stanford has 6. So according to the OP, those four teams each have about as many AA players as the other six teams in the top 10 combined. To me, this strongly indicates he's only really familiar with players from a few teams. Your post has prompted me to ask this question: What team has won the National Championship with the least number of AA's? I know UCLA did it a few years ago with only 1 AA. Has there been a team to do it with none? Dont think any team won without a single AA.. UCLA and STANFORD are the only teams who won with one AA. STANFORD did it in 2004 with Ogonna. Not a surprise both teams are the lowest seeds to win the NC
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Post by leftcoaster71 on Oct 22, 2014 1:07:45 GMT -5
IIRC to be eligible for AA you have to make it onto a regional AA team, right? Well the "Pacific North" region might be something of a choke point, since two of the current undefeated teams are in there (#3 Washington and #1 Stanford) along with #11 Oregon and #6 Colorado State, plus Hawaii and OSU and a few other teams with some good candidates. Pretty much. If a player is named to the all region team, they will be named either 1st team, 2nd team, 3 team, or Honorable Mention All-America. If a player is named Honorable Mention All Region, they can be named Honorable Mention All-America provided they receive a unanimous vote by the selection committee. Otherwise, Honorable Mention All Region, do not receive any All-America status.
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Post by TexVB on Oct 22, 2014 5:56:38 GMT -5
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Post by hammer on Oct 22, 2014 12:15:53 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a single team get 4 or 5 nods. If they deserve it that team should be playing for the title at the end of the year. Now if a team with 4 or 5 AA didn't make the Final Four, that I would enjoy! Let me introduce you to the 2007 Nebraska Cornhuskers: Pavan (1st Team), Stalls (2nd), Holloway(2nd), Houghtelling (2nd), Larson (3rd). Swept by Cal in the regional final. Oh my!
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 22, 2014 12:35:21 GMT -5
IIRC to be eligible for AA you have to make it onto a regional AA team, right? Well the "Pacific North" region might be something of a choke point, since two of the current undefeated teams are in there (#3 Washington and #1 Stanford) along with #11 Oregon and #6 Colorado State, plus Hawaii and OSU and a few other teams with some good candidates. Precisely....which is why west coast teams continue to have a disadvantage in All American selections. the Pac-12 must share their regional selections with the WCC/Big West/Mountain West schools... meanwhile conferences like the Big 10, SEC, and Big 12 each literally get two regions TO THEMSELVES. IMO they should do away with all regional selections.
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