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Post by lionsfan on Nov 26, 2014 0:23:00 GMT -5
*cough*Northwestern*cough* Yeah, and Colorado was not full strength for that match. The B1G lost 8 of its Top 10 scorers from 2013.... the PAC lost 1. Do the math. Penn State wasn't full strength when it lost at Stanford. Michigan wasn't full strength when it lost at the Oregons. Just sayin.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 26, 2014 0:25:38 GMT -5
Yeah, and Colorado was not full strength for that match. The B1G lost 8 of its Top 10 scorers from 2013.... the PAC lost 1. Do the math. Penn State wasn't full strength when it lost at Stanford. Michigan wasn't full strength when it lost at the Oregons. Just sayin. *Cough *St. Louis, LIU Brooklyn, Arkansas, Louisville, Virginia Tech, Western Kentucky, Ohio, Illinois St.* Cough*
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 26, 2014 0:45:27 GMT -5
Penn State wasn't full strength when it lost at Stanford. Michigan wasn't full strength when it lost at the Oregons. Just sayin. *Cough *St. Louis, LIU Brooklyn, Arkansas, Louisville, Virginia Tech, Western Kentucky, Ohio, Illinois St.* Cough* Muahaha
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Post by lionsfan on Nov 26, 2014 1:07:18 GMT -5
Penn State wasn't full strength when it lost at Stanford. Michigan wasn't full strength when it lost at the Oregons. Just sayin. *Cough *St. Louis, LIU Brooklyn, Arkansas, Louisville, Virginia Tech, Western Kentucky, Ohio, Illinois St.* Cough* Western Kentucky has a higher RPI than Creighton. Louisville also beat Arizona State. A loss to South Dakota is as embarrassing as a loss to St. Louis. Have you looked at the RPIs of the teams on Utah's pre-conference schedule? Best win is Lipscomb, and matches against the likes of LIU Brooklyn, Arkansas, Virginia Tech, Western Kentucky, Ohio (which also took ASU to 5) and Illinois State would have been an upgrade over anyone else on their schedule. And what great win jumps out from Colorado's pre-conference schedule? Pittsburgh? And Arizona beat Kansas State...whoopie!
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 26, 2014 1:32:17 GMT -5
*Cough *St. Louis, LIU Brooklyn, Arkansas, Louisville, Virginia Tech, Western Kentucky, Ohio, Illinois St.* Cough* Western Kentucky has a higher RPI than Creighton. Yeah, Colorado sucked early in the season before they got Austin back. The difference is, they've redeemed themselves against teams that didn't suck in the pre-conference.Louisville also beat Arizona State. Yeah, but at least they beat some people to make up for itA loss to South Dakota is as embarrassing as a loss to St. Louis. Colorado againHave you looked at the RPIs of the teams on Utah's pre-conference schedule? Best win is Lipscomb, and matches against the likes of LIU Brooklyn, Arkansas, Virginia Tech, Western Kentucky, Ohio (which also took ASU to 5) and Illinois State would have been an upgrade over anyone else on their schedule. At least they beat Lipscomb, which means they have a better win than more than half the Big Ten teams, and they somehow avoided losing to a cupcakeAnd what great win jumps out from Colorado's pre-conference schedule? Pittsburgh? Colorado at less than full strength, again? You need some new materialAnd Arizona beat Kansas State...whoopie! And K-State housed Michigan, whoopee!Well, you really showed me there (or not!). And feel free to take the same eye to what the Big Ten did; trust honey, that list will be miles long. You can continue to think that the B1G is just as good as last year, and that it's the nasty Rutgers and Maryland bringing your RPI down, or you can recognize that the B1G graduated a whole heap of exceptional talent it hasn't replaced and the on-court results reflected that. Is it the SEC? No. Should you apply your perceptions based on what the conference was in 2013 to this year? No to that, as well. Edit: Oh, and also, 12-6
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Post by volleyfan24 on Nov 26, 2014 1:51:11 GMT -5
I am PAC-12 partial as I live near the west coast but really don't have a bias but there really isn't a debate as to who the better conference is this year. The B1G is not anywhere near as strong as it was last year I don't even think it is half as good. Its very top heavy and even the third and fourth team are good but inconsistent unlike last year. Too many bubble teams. Purdue didn't deliver on its pre-season ranking. Illinois and Nebraska while good are about as good as flipping a quarter when guessing an outcome against top teams as they could win but could lose. The M teams aren't very good this season Michigan, Minnesota and Michigan State plus the bottom got worse. The PAC-12 has a chance to get about 10 teams into the conference its much better teams have improved and are playing punch out every night. No give me's. Also Cal and Washington State aren't nearly as bad as Maryland Rutgers or even Indiana. The B1G was clearly the best conference last year the PAC is this year who knows next year it could be more even.
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Post by lionsfan on Nov 26, 2014 1:58:13 GMT -5
Western Kentucky has a higher RPI than Creighton. Yeah, Colorado sucked early in the season before they got Austin back. The difference is, they've redeemed themselves against teams that didn't suck in the pre-conference.Louisville also beat Arizona State. Yeah, but at least they beat some people to make up for itA loss to South Dakota is as embarrassing as a loss to St. Louis. Colorado againHave you looked at the RPIs of the teams on Utah's pre-conference schedule? Best win is Lipscomb, and matches against the likes of LIU Brooklyn, Arkansas, Virginia Tech, Western Kentucky, Ohio (which also took ASU to 5) and Illinois State would have been an upgrade over anyone else on their schedule. At least they beat Lipscomb, which means they have a better win than more than half the Big Ten teams, and they somehow avoided losing to a cupcakeAnd what great win jumps out from Colorado's pre-conference schedule? Pittsburgh? Colorado at less than full strength, again? You need some new materialAnd Arizona beat Kansas State...whoopie! And K-State housed Michigan, whoopee!Well, you really showed me there (or not!). And feel free to take the same eye to what the Big Ten did; trust honey, that list will be miles long. You can continue to think that the B1G is just as good as last year, and that it's the nasty Rutgers and Maryland bringing your RPI down, or you can recognize that the B1G graduated a whole heap of exceptional talent it hasn't replaced and the on-court results reflected that. Is it the SEC? No. Should you apply your perceptions based on what the conference was in 2013 to this year? No to that, as well. Edit: Oh, and also, 12-6 Of course I know the Pac is stronger this year. And I certainly don't think the B1G is as strong as it was last year. I'm just really enjoying this, and (sadly) have nothing better to do tonight You keep mentioning how Colorado gets a pass because they weren't full strength, yet don't seem to acknowledge that at least 5 (!) of the relevant losses in this back and forth have equally hampered B1G squads. Michigan was without Dannemiller when it lost to Arkansas, both Oregon squads and Kansas State. And Michigan State was without BOTH of its setters when it lost to LIU Brooklyn. 12-6? Congrats! Washington and USC beat Maryland! Maybe next year Wisconsin and Northwestern can schedule Cal...if the Bears aren't too busy playing Radford.
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Post by volleyfan24 on Nov 26, 2014 2:16:04 GMT -5
Well, you really showed me there (or not!). And feel free to take the same eye to what the Big Ten did; trust honey, that list will be miles long. You can continue to think that the B1G is just as good as last year, and that it's the nasty Rutgers and Maryland bringing your RPI down, or you can recognize that the B1G graduated a whole heap of exceptional talent it hasn't replaced and the on-court results reflected that. Is it the SEC? No. Should you apply your perceptions based on what the conference was in 2013 to this year? No to that, as well. Edit: Oh, and also, 12-6 Of course I know the Pac is stronger this year. And I certainly don't think the B1G is as strong as it was last year. I'm just really enjoying this, and (sadly) have nothing better to do tonight You keep mentioning how Colorado gets a pass because they weren't full strength, yet don't seem to acknowledge that at least 5 (!) of the relevant losses in this back and forth have equally hampered B1G squads. Michigan was without Dannemiller when it lost to Arkansas, both Oregon squads and Kansas State. And Michigan State was without BOTH of its setters when it lost to LIU Brooklyn. 12-6? Congrats! Washington and USC beat Maryland! Maybe next year Wisconsin and Northwestern can schedule Cal...if the Bears aren't too busy playing Radford. Thank god you are one of the more sensible posters on the board I was starting to doubt your credibility cause normally I enjoy your input. Haha nice troll.
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Post by lionsfan on Nov 26, 2014 2:20:48 GMT -5
Of course I know the Pac is stronger this year. And I certainly don't think the B1G is as strong as it was last year. I'm just really enjoying this, and (sadly) have nothing better to do tonight You keep mentioning how Colorado gets a pass because they weren't full strength, yet don't seem to acknowledge that at least 5 (!) of the relevant losses in this back and forth have equally hampered B1G squads. Michigan was without Dannemiller when it lost to Arkansas, both Oregon squads and Kansas State. And Michigan State was without BOTH of its setters when it lost to LIU Brooklyn. 12-6? Congrats! Washington and USC beat Maryland! Maybe next year Wisconsin and Northwestern can schedule Cal...if the Bears aren't too busy playing Radford. Thank god you are one of the more sensible posters on the board I was starting to doubt your credibility cause normally I enjoy your input. Haha nice troll. I love your signature
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Post by volleyfan24 on Nov 26, 2014 2:24:00 GMT -5
Thank god you are one of the more sensible posters on the board I was starting to doubt your credibility cause normally I enjoy your input. Haha nice troll. I love your signature Thank you I am still trying to figure out the punch line.
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