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Post by manoamist on Nov 18, 2014 1:22:28 GMT -5
Pac 12 teams with 14-12 records like SC in the top 25... its not good news for Big West teams like Hawaii struggling to make the NCAAs.
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 18, 2014 1:26:53 GMT -5
Pac 12 teams with 14-12 records like SC in the top 25... its not good news for Big West teams like Hawaii struggling to make the NCAAs. AVCA poll is pretty much ignored by the selection committee. But USC's strength of schedule pretty much ensures they will get in as long as they manage to maintain a .500 record. (That's not a given! They need one more win. They play Oregon State, Oregon, Arizona, and UCLA. Oregon State, also 7-9 in conference, is the only one that pablo favors the Trojans to win.)
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Post by fuzzy on Nov 18, 2014 5:21:29 GMT -5
I think Purdue is still in the top 16 because they have an 8-1 record against teams ranked between 25-60. There are only a handful of teams in America with that type of winning percentage against that level of opponent. They are also the last team to take a set off Penn Stare, a team they were two points from sweeping.
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Post by beaversteel on Nov 18, 2014 5:40:39 GMT -5
As a fan, I would love to see Washington get a 2nd round match up with Purdue. I watched the PSU:Purdue match and if Purdue gets their injured players back, they can beat anybody. I do think Drews and Jones are back again healthy, as they both played against Northwestern.
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Post by tclenpsu1 on Nov 18, 2014 8:28:06 GMT -5
I think Purdue is still in the top 16 because they have an 8-1 record against teams ranked between 25-60. There are only a handful of teams in America with that type of winning percentage against that level of opponent. They are also the last team to take a set off Penn State, a team they were two points from sweeping. "2 points from sweeping" PSU, How would that possible when Penn State won the first set?
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Post by fuzzy on Nov 18, 2014 9:24:05 GMT -5
The first set score was 25-23....If Purdue wins that game they would have swept. Purdue was also 2 points away from winning game 4 as Penn State won 25-23. I don't think either team had more than a 3 point lead the enitre match until the 5th game.
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 18, 2014 13:24:53 GMT -5
As a fan, I would love to see Washington get a 2nd round match up with Purdue. I watched the PSU:Purdue match and if Purdue gets their injured players back, they can beat anybody. I do think Drews and Jones are back again healthy, as they both played against Northwestern. If Kentucky gets a seed, I think Purdue heads there, they are well within the travel restriction
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Post by elevationvb on Nov 18, 2014 13:43:29 GMT -5
The first set score was 25-23....If Purdue wins that game they would have swept. Purdue was also 2 points away from winning game 4 as Penn State won 25-23. I don't think either team had more than a 3 point lead the enitre match until the 5th game. Without a doubt, fuzzy math & logic,
and wishful prayer!
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Post by vbprisoner on Nov 18, 2014 13:46:00 GMT -5
As a fan, I would love to see Washington get a 2nd round match up with Purdue. I watched the PSU:Purdue match and if Purdue gets their injured players back, they can beat anybody. I do think Drews and Jones are back again healthy, as they both played against Northwestern. If Kentucky gets a seed, I think Purdue heads there, they are well within the travel restriction 2014 tourney - Kentucky vs. Purdue = 2013 Tourney - Missouri vs. Purdue
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Post by dorothymantooth on Nov 18, 2014 13:51:23 GMT -5
As a fan, I would love to see Washington get a 2nd round match up with Purdue. I watched the PSU:Purdue match and if Purdue gets their injured players back, they can beat anybody. I do think Drews and Jones are back again healthy, as they both played against Northwestern. If Kentucky gets a seed, I think Purdue heads there, they are well within the travel restriction Given recent history, Purdue isnt a team you want to see in your bracket. If they are healthy, they will give teams fits. They play really hard, are really well coached and arent intimidated by great teams in the tournament. I agree with you in regards to that being a very possible landing spot for them should Kentucky host.
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Nov 18, 2014 13:52:34 GMT -5
I wish I could share everyone's optimism regarding Purdue making the tournament, but I am more than concerned. Purdue needs to win a match that they are expected to lose. That means Wisconsin. At Wisconsin.
And Mich St and Minn on the road, too.
They lose to Wisconsin and I don't think they make it.
Which is a bloody shame for many reasons, but Purdue is a team that I think could do amazing things in the tournament. Val Nichol has as much potential for carrying a team far as anyone in the country, and if it tournament time and she took over, they could beat anyone.
But that is all moot if they don't get there.
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Post by SakiBomb25 on Nov 18, 2014 14:03:26 GMT -5
I don't think PSU should be ranked higher than UW, but why is it that shocking or bothersome? RPI of team's PSU lost to: 1, 9 and 11. RPI of teams Washington lost to: 29 and 47. Washington beat Wisky in Seattle in 5. Penn State beat Wisky in Madison in 3. What if Penn State wins (not a given by any means...Michigan and Nebraska will be dangerous) out and Washington loses to Stanford? Still a joke to you? Beat Stanford and you'll easily move back up. Lose to them--especially if its at home in less than 5 sets--and get back to us. It's neither shocking or bothersome, to me. Just interesting. I'm still convinced that many of the coaches who take part in the polling have only a modest interest in the process and take only a cursory glance at results. And as AY mentioned earlier, so much of it is driven by reputation and heritage and where teams finished last season. Honestly, as I've stated multiple times, I'd much rather have a team feel slighted and overlooked in the polls and even in where they are seeded. As a coach I'd want my team playing loose and not trying to live up to high expectations. If Stanford ends the regular season unbeaten, I think those players are going to be tight as a drum after the first round. Stanford hasn't been playing like a team that is tight. Sure they've dropped sets - but that's been the case all year long due to inconsistent passing and inability to terminate on the pins. Dunning has the team focused on the right things - which is improving with every match and not taking anyone for granted. I usually tend to think a team should have a loss heading into the post-season, but I think this team is strong enough mentally to withstand those pressures. I keep thinking about the PSU teams that went undefeated and I think, "Why not this team?" As long has Dunning has them mentally prepared for each match, this team may not succumb to the pressures. To me, the hardest matches the rest of the season will be Washington and the Elite Eight match (if they get that far).[/quote]
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Post by baywatcher on Nov 18, 2014 14:05:28 GMT -5
Really think Purdue is in trouble? The early season wins over San Diego and LSU, two other bubble teams, should help.
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Nov 18, 2014 14:19:21 GMT -5
Really think Purdue is in trouble? The early season wins over San Diego and LSU, two other bubble teams, should help. 1) Right now, their projected RPI is 50. Too damn close to the cutoff. 1a) Illinois St has to go to UNI for the Valley tournament. They just won there, but the chances of winning again are not as high for comfort; a loss there hurts Purdue. It's potential, but its a concern. 2) They have no projected wins over the top 25 (LSU doesn't look to be going to get there) 3) the loss to St Louis at home really looms ugly
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Post by gogophers on Nov 18, 2014 14:48:26 GMT -5
Bofa, are you also predicting, if Wisconsin beats Purdue, that the Big10 will get only 5 teams in the tournament? An invitation list strictly by RPI might mean only 5, but I have to believe that the commmitte will bend over backwards to get a sixth and maybe even a seventh Big10 team in. Purdue has the best case for being that 6th, even if it loses to Wisconsin.
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