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Post by holidayhusker on Jan 16, 2015 18:49:59 GMT -5
It am guessing that in five years, Jim will build a powerhouse team for the Irish. I am curious if he will be able to recruit head to head with Penn, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Illinois?
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Jan 16, 2015 18:51:52 GMT -5
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Post by Boof1224 on Jan 16, 2015 18:51:52 GMT -5
It am guessing that in five years, Jim will build a powerhouse team for the Irish. I am curious if he will be able to recruit head to head with Penn, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Illinois? Not in acc. Think there's a pride thing in playing for pac or big conference
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Post by Wolfgang on Jan 16, 2015 18:56:30 GMT -5
It am guessing that in five years, Jim will build a powerhouse team for the Irish. I am curious if he will be able to recruit head to head with Penn, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Illinois? I am absolutely sure Jim will be able to recruit better than Penn. However, Penn State is a different story.
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Post by holidayhusker on Jan 16, 2015 18:57:06 GMT -5
It am guessing that in five years, Jim will build a powerhouse team for the Irish. I am curious if he will be able to recruit head to head with Penn, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Illinois? Not in acc. Think there's a pride thing in playing for pac or big conference It will be fascinating to watch unfold.
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Post by Boof1224 on Jan 16, 2015 18:59:29 GMT -5
Not in acc. Think there's a pride thing in playing for pac or big conference It will be fascinating to watch unfold. Don't a lot of the best Cali kids would prefer to stay in pac. Being at nd I think will greatly affect the california talent. He's got a lot more big time coaches to compete against now
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Post by #skoskers on Jan 16, 2015 19:03:59 GMT -5
It am guessing that in five years, Jim will build a powerhouse team for the Irish. I am curious if he will be able to recruit head to head with Penn, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Illinois? I'm not sure. The top ten recruits for the past couple of years haven't been signing for him. They've been going to PSU, Nebraska, Stanford, Texas, USC, Illi, Florida and Wisconsin instead. I don't think he and/or ND will necessarily change the establishment, as a lot of the upcoming years' top recruits are already signed to the above-listed universities.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jan 16, 2015 19:04:14 GMT -5
Not in acc. Think there's a pride thing in playing for pac or big conference It will be fascinating to watch unfold. It will be interesting. It's going to be very, very difficult for Jim to convince elite players from his traditional recruiting territory (the West Coast) to come to South Bend and the ACC. And regionally, he's facing the cream of the Big Ten programs when he goes after blue chips from the SPRI's, Munciana's, Northern Lights, and the like. I'm not betting against him, but Jim definitely has some challenges ahead of him.
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Post by Boof1224 on Jan 16, 2015 19:08:53 GMT -5
It am guessing that in five years, Jim will build a powerhouse team for the Irish. I am curious if he will be able to recruit head to head with Penn, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Illinois? I'm not sure. The top ten recruits for the past couple of years haven't been signing for him. They've been going to PSU, Nebraska, Stanford, Texas, USC, Illi, Florida and Wisconsin instead. I don't think he and/or ND will necessarily change the establishment, as a lot of the upcoming years' top recruits are already signed to the above-listed universities. I think he will get good recruits but top 10....? I think those will continue choosing the programs listed above.
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Post by vbman100 on Jan 17, 2015 2:30:03 GMT -5
Then please explain why Florida (SEC), Florida St (ACC), North Carolina (ACC), Colorado St, BYU get great recruits. They are not in the B1G 14 or PAC.
And he really wasn't getting a lot of top 10 recruits at Washington, but went to 4 Final 4s, won a National Championship, and was in the top 10 every week for 11 years. And would often defeat those kids that went to USC, Stanford, etc.
He can win without getting the best recruits because he can train like almost no other coach.
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Post by akbar on Jan 17, 2015 6:30:17 GMT -5
It will be fascinating to watch unfold. It will be interesting. It's going to be very, very difficult for Jim to convince elite players from his traditional recruiting territory (the West Coast) to come to South Bend and the ACC. And regionally, he's facing the cream of the Big Ten programs when he goes after blue chips from the SPRI's, Munciana's, Northern Lights, and the like. I'm not betting against him, but Jim definitely has some challenges ahead of him. www.und.com/genrel/011315aaa.html#1 recruiting ground for Notre Dame Is California for student athletes. But I agree, I don't see a national powerhouse anytime soon for many of the reasons that I already explained. Time will tell
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jan 17, 2015 8:43:44 GMT -5
And he really wasn't getting a lot of top 10 recruits at Washington, but went to 4 Final 4s, won a National Championship, and was in the top 10 every week for 11 years. And would often defeat those kids that went to USC, Stanford, etc. There's a certain mythology about this argument that is way overstated. UW may have been in the Top 10 every week for 11 years (but there's a lot of 2nd and 3rd round losses that makes this a bit hard to defend....) but they've also been Top 10 in total talent in that period as well. That title team (that went to 3 of his final fours) was absolutely loaded. Morrison was one of the best OHs of the past decade, they had a foreigner that would have been rated as highly, and a lot of the other girls were just not ranked as high as they should have been as underexposed Northwesterners. He didn't turn pewter into gold. Maybe Nebraska had more talent in 05, but they were the ONLY team. .. And his most recent final four team had just as many Top 10 recruits playing as the Penn St. team they got handled by, plus ya know, he had the #1 overall Vansant. A good smattering of Top 10 players other than Vansant and Morrison (Barfield, Salvo, Munoz, Gil) have cycled through, and boatloads of Top 20 players have always supplemented that. He hasn't had more talent than Stanford and USC (usually), but he's not finishing above them every year either, and he has finished below teams from UCLA, Cal, Oregon with less talent in certain years. He's obviously a good coach, but the results are way overstated. Now, will UW be Top 10 in total talent in 2015-2016, like they have been for the past decade? 2015 is very borderline, and for 2016 a big no. 2017 was already looking challenging for them before "the decision" too, and that's an aspect most are just choosing to ignore.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jan 17, 2015 9:00:30 GMT -5
Nebraska volleyball is the only women's college sport in history to have turned a profit. The only one. Ever. Not true
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Post by #skoskers on Jan 17, 2015 10:37:16 GMT -5
Nebraska volleyball is the only women's college sport in history to have turned a profit. The only one. Ever. Not true Hawaii too, right?
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Post by vbprisoner on Jan 17, 2015 10:53:52 GMT -5
It will be fascinating to watch unfold. Don't a lot of the best Cali kids would prefer to stay in pac. Being at nd I think will greatly affect the california talent. He's got a lot more big time coaches to compete against now boof, you probably should not post on a Friday once happy hour starts. I am at a loss for what you typed for your first two sentences!
He will get the same type of talent he recruited at Washington and coach them up. The ACC was the third best conference last season and Notre Dame is a national draw.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jan 17, 2015 14:31:57 GMT -5
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