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Post by elevationvb on May 2, 2015 9:29:49 GMT -5
Yes, Strickland is a good example. But what did her coaching staff do with her when they found the OH they wanted? They moved her to libero. She, like Amy in my opinion, played OH out of necessity. That doesn't mean Strickland or Neal didn't contribute. Same goes for Carpenter that others love to cite as an example. Russ Rose never intended for her to be his program's setter. Where did she play as a freshman? If I remember correctly, she only became the setter the national championship season because the heir to Glass as setter transferred or didn't workout? After the national championship season, she was moved to DS because Rose found the setter (Hancock) that he was looking for. Like Collins, Carpenter was very athletic and more than serviceable as a setter. But the difference between then and now is Carpenter had an outstanding group of players behind her. Texas going into '15 is in transition. As always, a lot of talent, but young inexperienced talent coming into key positions. If they exceed expectations, '15 can be a very good season, but '16 and beyond should be national championship caliber. I think we are arguing about the same thing! I agree with you! I think Elliott has done a fantastic job recruiting the kinds of players Texas needs over the next few classes. 2016 and 2017 are incredibly strong recruiting classes. Unfortunately, I wish we had a couple of those players now Agreed.
Although, the La Grange setter selection puzzles me a bit. Need to learn more about her, I guess.
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Post by southie on May 2, 2015 11:00:22 GMT -5
I agree with candlelight. Ebony would sure make Texas a better team (and more unbeatable I would say) but she's not the answer to their pressing needs. Imagine a setter as good as Carlini (sorry can't help) and an incoming OH as good as Hayley Hodson. Man, Texas would be undefeated. Yeah, Texas is the only team that Carlini and Hodson would make better. It's not like Texas didn't recruit Hodson and bring her in for a visit. She didn't want to come. Posters on here think it's so easy to sign that true freshman pin hitter who can play 6 rotations, earn a starting spot from day one, and not struggle. I guess all the other programs across the country except Texas are signing those recruits. I don't think Simone Lee or Ali Frantti played 6 rotations for PSU this past year; maybe they never will.
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Post by southie on May 6, 2015 19:03:39 GMT -5
Based on other team's 2015 published schedules, here's what ours is looking like:
09/04 - Nebraska in Austin, TX 09/05 - Florida in Austin, TX 09/11 - Santa Clara in Austin, TX (Santa Clara is playing Iona earlier that morning)
09/13 - Colorado State in Austin, TX (weekend tourney also has Iona in Austin according to CSU schedule)
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Post by elevationvb on May 6, 2015 22:08:21 GMT -5
Based on other team's 2015 published schedules, here's what ours is looking like: 09/04 - Nebraska in Austin, TX 09/05 - Florida in Austin, TX 09/13 - Colorado State in Austin, TX (weekend tourney also has Iona in Austin according to CSU schedule) The 13th is a Sunday, so I'm wondering if it's a 1 day tournament since Texas Football has a home game on Saturday (12th)?
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Post by usvballfan on May 6, 2015 23:53:14 GMT -5
Dalton's injury situation is unfortunate. When I watched her in high school we reminded me of Kelly Murphy (Florida)..just not quite as quick. I wish her the best.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 23:57:36 GMT -5
Dalton's injury situation is unfortunate. When I watched her in high school we reminded me of Kelly Murphy (Florida). Seriously?
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Post by southie on May 7, 2015 6:29:27 GMT -5
Based on other team's 2015 published schedules, here's what ours is looking like: 09/04 - Nebraska in Austin, TX 09/05 - Florida in Austin, TX 09/13 - Colorado State in Austin, TX (weekend tourney also has Iona in Austin according to CSU schedule) The 13th is a Sunday, so I'm wondering if it's a 1 day tournament since Texas Football has a home game on Saturday (12th)?
I would think there would be some matches on Friday and Saturday, although CSU's first match is Sunday. Perhaps Texas' Saturday match time would depend on the time of the football game.
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Post by elevationvb on May 7, 2015 9:45:11 GMT -5
The 13th is a Sunday, so I'm wondering if it's a 1 day tournament since Texas Football has a home game on Saturday (12th)?
I would think there would be some matches on Friday and Saturday, although CSU's first match is Sunday. Perhaps Texas' Saturday match time would depend on the time of the football game. Perhaps. But the Brazos Garage used for volleyball parking is designated for football on game days. Football parking spots have to be vacated the night before a game. I do remember football and volleyball being linked in some sort of promo several years ago. The volleyball match was after the football game. The volleyball crowd wasn't that great if I recall correctly.
It's likely the football game will be at 6:00 or 7:00 pm. I'm going to take a guess that the volleyball matches will be Friday / Sunday or just Sunday.
I was expecting the Texas VB tournament being held opening weekend. Now it looks like they will start the season on the road before returning for 2 weekends at Gregory?
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Post by jsn112 on May 7, 2015 12:33:07 GMT -5
I agree with candlelight. Ebony would sure make Texas a better team (and more unbeatable I would say) but she's not the answer to their pressing needs. Imagine a setter as good as Carlini (sorry can't help) and an incoming OH as good as Hayley Hodson. Man, Texas would be undefeated. Yeah, Texas is the only team that Carlini and Hodson would make better. It's not like Texas didn't recruit Hodson and bring her in for a visit. She didn't want to come. Posters on here think it's so easy to sign that true freshman pin hitter who can play 6 rotations, earn a starting spot from day one, and not struggle. I guess all the other programs across the country except Texas are signing those recruits. I don't think Simone Lee or Ali Frantti played 6 rotations for PSU this past year; maybe they never will.Lee... no. Frantti... yes, but in and out. I am sure Frantti is being groomed by RR to take Courtney's place when she graduates at the end of this coming season.
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Post by uscyaaa on May 8, 2015 2:46:34 GMT -5
Big picture Longhorn20, big picture.
People can become all aggie like and get offended when I dare to talk about Collins and Neal's volleyball height as it relates to performance on the court and the development of the program. I have never questioned the effort & contributions these players bring to the program and our university. I think Amy Neal is the hardest working player on the team - just look at her serving during the spring season. It's obvious how hard she's been working on this 1 aspect of her game since December. This kid is a smart volleyball player but her height is what it is for a major division 1 program like Texas. The same goes for Collins.
But match-ups matter when they matter most.
It's not a coincidence what Elliott is going after in his future classes. He wants to win more national championships like a Russ Rose. That's a great thing. I get what you're saying. But I think a lot of what we're saying wouldn't be as big a deal if she was a better passer. Washington never complained this much when Strickland was an outside because she actually passed well even though she was a 5'8" hitter. I honestly think we win the NC again in '13 if Dalton was healthy. But you didn't win the NC in '13...and your coach got out-coached in the Final Four...again....
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Post by southie on May 8, 2015 7:54:24 GMT -5
I get what you're saying. But I think a lot of what we're saying wouldn't be as big a deal if she was a better passer. Washington never complained this much when Strickland was an outside because she actually passed well even though she was a 5'8" hitter. I honestly think we win the NC again in '13 if Dalton was healthy. But you didn't win the NC in '13...and your coach got out-coached in the Final Four...again.... You probably need to focus on your own head coach and just trying to get back to the Sweet 16 based on last year's implosion and dreadful coaching job. #babysteps
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Post by dorothymantooth on May 8, 2015 8:23:55 GMT -5
I agree with candlelight. Ebony would sure make Texas a better team (and more unbeatable I would say) but she's not the answer to their pressing needs. Imagine a setter as good as Carlini (sorry can't help) and an incoming OH as good as Hayley Hodson. Man, Texas would be undefeated. Yeah, Texas is the only team that Carlini and Hodson would make better. It's not like Texas didn't recruit Hodson and bring her in for a visit. She didn't want to come. Posters on here think it's so easy to sign that true freshman pin hitter who can play 6 rotations, earn a starting spot from day one, and not struggle. I guess all the other programs across the country except Texas are signing those recruits. I don't think Simone Lee or Ali Frantti played 6 rotations for PSU this past year; maybe they never will. It is as easy or easier for Texas to sign that player as it is any program, kids want to go there. Texas has made choices in their recruiting that has put a higher premium on athleticism than volleyball skill IMO. That isn't a criticism as they have had ridiculous results and are clearly the second best program in the country. Impossible to criticize their recruiting although I think in many cases they have failed to sign a facilitator or complimentary player to go with their stable of thoroughbreds. sp?
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Post by Longhorn20 on May 8, 2015 9:04:24 GMT -5
I get what you're saying. But I think a lot of what we're saying wouldn't be as big a deal if she was a better passer. Washington never complained this much when Strickland was an outside because she actually passed well even though she was a 5'8" hitter. I honestly think we win the NC again in '13 if Dalton was healthy. But you didn't win the NC in '13...and your coach got out-coached in the Final Four...again.... What was the purpose of this?
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Post by tempesthorn on May 8, 2015 9:04:48 GMT -5
Yeah, Texas is the only team that Carlini and Hodson would make better. It's not like Texas didn't recruit Hodson and bring her in for a visit. She didn't want to come. Posters on here think it's so easy to sign that true freshman pin hitter who can play 6 rotations, earn a starting spot from day one, and not struggle. I guess all the other programs across the country except Texas are signing those recruits. I don't think Simone Lee or Ali Frantti played 6 rotations for PSU this past year; maybe they never will. It is as easy or easier for Texas to sign that player as it is any program, kids want to go there. Texas has made choices in their recruiting that has put a higher premium on athleticism than volleyball skill IMO. That isn't a criticism as they have had ridiculous results and are clearly the second best program in the country. Impossible to criticize their recruiting although I think in many cases they have failed to sign a facilitator or complimentary player to go with their stable of thoroughbreds. sp? Your opinion implies that the coaching staff is not TRYING to sign that facilitator or complimentary player/6 rotation passer and instead only going after the "athletes". That is a way too simplistic view of their recruiting. They have been in many battles for 6 rotations players. It's not for lack of trying or due to only choosing athletes. Texas' recruiting success with the athletic girls has led to a perception that you have to be the freakish athlete to go there. Have they signed a Haley Eckerman or a Khat Bell-type instead of a complimentary player? Likely. But is that all they are going for because that is all they value? No.
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Post by Longhorn20 on May 8, 2015 9:05:55 GMT -5
Yeah, Texas is the only team that Carlini and Hodson would make better. It's not like Texas didn't recruit Hodson and bring her in for a visit. She didn't want to come. Posters on here think it's so easy to sign that true freshman pin hitter who can play 6 rotations, earn a starting spot from day one, and not struggle. I guess all the other programs across the country except Texas are signing those recruits. I don't think Simone Lee or Ali Frantti played 6 rotations for PSU this past year; maybe they never will. It is as easy or easier for Texas to sign that player as it is any program, kids want to go there. Texas has made choices in their recruiting that has put a higher premium on athleticism than volleyball skill IMO. That isn't a criticism as they have had ridiculous results and are clearly the second best program in the country. Impossible to criticize their recruiting although I think in many cases they have failed to sign a facilitator or complimentary player to go with their stable of thoroughbreds. sp? I agree, although I'm hoping that these next few classes will have those volleyball skill players. Abby Buckingham in 2016 looks to be that kind of player.
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