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Post by akbar on Dec 19, 2014 10:52:26 GMT -5
Seriously! Of course we are upset about our Texas team losing a match that BYU played lights out and Texas played horribly. BYU deserved the win, but let's have some class people. Texas didn't show their ass when Washington was taken out on their home court or Wisconsin taken out by PSU or Stanford taken out by Washington, a team that lost to Nebraska. Oh please, this tournament was wide open and Texas earned the right to be in OKC like every one else. Congrats to BYU absolutely, but Texas didn't "go down", they literally almost took BYU to 5, tough to do, especially under all that pressure and lights of a final four, but hey, if anyone could of done it it's Texas, let's not forget they've been there the last 4 years and won a title in one of those. Nothing wrong with that. Texas lost that match to a very tough BYU team, they will take this loss just as Wisconsin or Washington or Hawai'i or UCLA or Stanford--the list goes on----I will this, if PSU plays how they did against Stanford, BYU will be the national champions. Let's go courgars, "take doen" Penn State! You really believe if PSU plays like they did last night, BYU will win? Do you think PSU's level of opponent played any role in how they played? Furthermore, I could have sworn some were saying that about PSU's performance against Wisconsin concerning their chance against Stanford (and their outing vs Florida.) MATCHUP , MATCHUP AND MATCHUP. BYU presents some obstacles for sure.
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Post by texasnewbie on Dec 19, 2014 11:04:27 GMT -5
Seriously! Of course we are upset about our Texas team losing a match that BYU played lights out and Texas played horribly. BYU deserved the win, but let's have some class people. Texas didn't show their ass when Washington was taken out on their home court or Wisconsin taken out by PSU or Stanford taken out by Washington, a team that lost to Nebraska. Oh please, this tournament was wide open and Texas earned the right to be in OKC like every one else. Congrats to BYU absolutely, but Texas didn't "go down", they literally almost took BYU to 5, tough to do, especially under all that pressure and lights of a final four, but hey, if anyone could of done it it's Texas, let's not forget they've been there the last 4 years and won a title in one of those. Nothing wrong with that. Texas lost that match to a very tough BYU team, they will take this loss just as Wisconsin or Washington or Hawai'i or UCLA or Stanford--the list goes on----I will this, if PSU plays how they did against Stanford, BYU will be the national champions. Let's go courgars, "take doen" Penn State! You really believe if PSU plays like they did last night, BYU will win? Do you think PSU's level of opponent played any role in how they played? Honestly, not really, PSU has looked amazing as of late so I had them picked over Stanford. PSU is beatable and BYU is very capable of doing so. They have to play better than last night, in my opinion, but since your opinion is really all that matters then take it like a grain of salt, alright? Congrats to both teams for making it to the final, I believe and will say again, those 2 paths to OKC were to toughest, once again in my opinion.
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Post by VolleyTX on Dec 19, 2014 11:14:18 GMT -5
Seriously! Of course we are upset about our Texas team losing a match that BYU played lights out and Texas played horribly. BYU deserved the win, but let's have some class people. Texas didn't show their ass when Washington was taken out on their home court or Wisconsin taken out by PSU or Stanford taken out by Washington, a team that lost to Nebraska. Oh please, this tournament was wide open and Texas earned the right to be in OKC like every one else. Congrats to BYU absolutely, but Texas didn't "go down", they literally almost took BYU to 5, tough to do, especially under all that pressure and lights of a final four, but hey, if anyone could of done it it's Texas, let's not forget they've been there the last 4 years and won a title in one of those. Nothing wrong with that. Texas lost that match to a very tough BYU team, they will take this loss just as Wisconsin or Washington or Hawai'i or UCLA or Stanford--the list goes on----I will this, if PSU plays how they did against Stanford, BYU will be the national champions. Let's go courgars, "take doen" Penn State! You really believe if PSU plays like they did last night, BYU will win? Do you think PSU's level of opponent played any role in how they played? Penn State got very good performances from a couple of key players, but overall.... I would say that didn't play great volleyball. Their two left sides won the match for them. All the other players had average/bad game. Stanford on the other had, played badly. Bugg had one of her worst matches.... making poor decisions. Burgess.... their least effective hitter got the most sets. Bugg sent way to many shots over on two. Why did it take until the last 3 minutes of the game for Stanford to plant their middle back defender down the line? They got hammered all match on the seam/line shot... they didn't make an adjustment until the last few points of the match?
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Post by texasnewbie on Dec 19, 2014 11:21:16 GMT -5
Ok, wow a lot of haters on Texas, as always. Oh well, it's pretty common now days. I would like to put out my opinion on watching the match last night. Texas started off with a bang, literally, that kill Bell had was probably the biggest kill next to Haley's against UNC to give Texas match point in Minnesota. As the match went on Texas played well and twice were up on BYU by 3, then the Texas we all know came out...bad passing, bad location on the setting and BYU woke up and adjusted their block and showed why they are the top blocking team in the country. It was down hill from there. I am a Texas fan, bleed orange and will win and lose with the Longhorns, not a problem. What's so frustrating to watch is a team with so much depth and talent with a ton of top 10-15 recruits on the floor at once but just can't put it all together when it counts, it's not talent, it's coaching, it's obvious! I've always thought , now this is just me, that the final four teams should be playing their best volleyball of the season. I mean, it's the final four, they should. BYU did and Texas did not. Khat McCoy did not impress as usual, Bell was blocked off the court as was Eckerman, I didn't even know Molly was playing until the 2nd set, my 6 yr old could set better than Nicole. That is frustrating, and Texas' weakness was brought out for the country to see on the grand stage of the final four by BYU. Congrats to BYU for executing a flawless game plan. Texas started to wake up at the end of set 3, I give my team that but BYU fought for every last point. Yes, we can all say--NO TOUCH NO TOUCH, some say they seen it, some say they didn't, I watched the replay over and over and I didn't see a touch and that's being honest, who knows, even if there wasn't, I'm not sure I'm all that confident that Texas would of pulled it out anyways. I'm not trying to put down Texas, these are facts. Texas was not playing their best volleyball and most of that is Elliot, his strength, once again in my opinion would of been a 5:1 offense without Neal hitting. That is what happens when you face the number 1 blocking team in the country and you have a 5 ft SEVEN inch OH, she isn't no 5'10. Amy played a pretty good season against pretty good opponents. BYU ate her alive on defense and offense. I counted her errors in the back row and she was held to under a .100 hitting percentage as was Eckerman. Chi can't do it alone! It was a team effort and they didn't show up, some say choke, well basically , yes. I love the longhorns but I always give credit where it's due and BYU deserves to be in that final Saturday and so does PSU. I will root for BYU all the way only because I'm tired of PSU always winning. I will say though, Russ Rose is the meaning of coaching and Elliot should take notes. I was not a fan of Neal, but she started to win a lot of people over, and then she "Vanessa Williams' " the semi final and saves the best for last; her worst match of the season. They all had errors but Amy's hurt the most. Thank you Texas for a great season, you had a good run. Haley and Khat have left their mark at Texas and wrote history, 3 final fours, 1 regional final without Khat, and a national title, this loss will only teach you to always come prepared. Best of luck to PSU and BYU in the final.
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Post by texasnewbie on Dec 19, 2014 11:23:15 GMT -5
I don't think Stanford played as well as Texas did. Penn State did not have a good match. Luckily, they have so much talent that it seems like there is always someone there to step up. Last night it was MC. She was terrific. Exactly, Courtney was lights out. I remember watching her in the UA match before her college career and she has a cannon. They will need to play better to beat BYU. I can see that match going to 5.
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Post by austintatious on Dec 19, 2014 11:24:06 GMT -5
Hold the phone! You have class? All you have done the last week is post negative comments about Coach Elliott -- anonymously, of course. You clearly have an agenda; too bad no one here is gonna give you what you need to feel better about what supposedly happened to you several years ago. The truth seems to hurt you all pretty bad. I feel for you. Hard to admit you need to clean up your own yard. Your pain and hatred seem so easy to pull out. Perhaps because you know the truth but blindly defend the indefensible like it is some noble Alamo. Better to face facts. Or just keep choking. Karma is beautiful. On their worst days Elevation and Southie have neve spewed venom like you do. I suggest you find someone you can vent to locally. Not doing anyone any good on here.
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Post by southie on Dec 19, 2014 11:25:10 GMT -5
I don't think Stanford played as well as Texas did. Penn State did not have a good match. Luckily, they have so much talent that it seems like there is always someone there to step up. Last night it was MC. She was terrific. Penn State was mentally tougher last night than any other team in OKC. I gotta hand it to them; even when they were behind in a set, it seemed to me as if Stanford was the team on their heels.
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Post by austintatious on Dec 19, 2014 11:29:26 GMT -5
Have to acknowledge that after the UNC match, got ahead with my excitement about Texas' new found ball control skills. Their back row play was disappointing. Decadesofvb was right, Amy Neal struggles passing. At first I thought is was Hamson serving tough. Then I thought, well maybe she's just having an off night. And finally, with enough akward looking plays...well, let's say Texas is trying to improve in the right area. And maybe because there has been so much outstanding libero and DS play in the tourney that after watching McCoy, imo seems she's a bit overhyped. ...and what's with all the contrived defensive rolls well after the ball bounced? Became irritating. Message to coach: more pracice time passing and less on rolling on the floor. volleytalk.net/post/1247559McCoy probably had one of her worst games last night. Gray was also hitting some sharp angles that McCoy just seemed totally unprepared for. I agree McCoy certainly was not at her best. But I saw at least 10--11 matches and she was as good a libero as I saw all year. Best I have seen in Burnt Orange in a long time.
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Post by VolleyTX on Dec 19, 2014 11:34:16 GMT -5
As for Texas/BYU match:
The left sides could get NOTHING going offensively.... Even Bell didn't perform well... she barely hit over 100. The two left sides hit under 100. The ONLY player that played a good match for Texas was Ogbogu. Without her steller performance, the match would have probably been over in 3 sets.
It was the Hamson and Gray show for BYU. If Boswell can get her offensive game going again in the finall..... penn state is going to have their hands full.
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Post by austintatious on Dec 19, 2014 11:35:39 GMT -5
I don't think Stanford played as well as Texas did. Penn State did not have a good match. Luckily, they have so much talent that it seems like there is always someone there to step up. Last night it was MC. She was terrific. Penn State was mentally tougher last night than any other team in OKC. I gotta hand it to them; even when they were behind in a set, it seemed to me as if Stanford was the team on their heels. Agree. Several ties I looked at the score to see how far PSU was ahead, because I thought they were playing great, and they were down by 2 or 3 points. Never felt like they were in jeopardy. Burgess hit low percentage, several nice swings that were dug up by Dom, Pierce and Fuller that should have gone down. but love watching Burgess play back row. She has libero written all over.. Dynamo who never stops moving.
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Post by southie on Dec 19, 2014 11:39:07 GMT -5
As for Texas/BYU match: The left sides could get NOTHING going offensively.... Even Bell didn't perform well... she barely hit over 100. The two left sides hit under 100. The ONLY player that played a good match for Texas was Ogbogu. Without her steller performance, the match would have probably been over in 3 sets. It was the Hamson and Gray show for BYU. If Boswell can get her offensive game going again in the finall..... penn state is going to have their hands full. Obviously, the passing wasn't that great for Texas. I thought our strategy would be to go more to the Middles and Right-side attackers. Thought we'd give Eckerman and Neal more swings from the right side. Not the best idea going at Hamson, IMO. I've been complaining all year that we weren't running the slide (McCage's bread and butter play) enough. We tried it more last night than in any match this season, but the timing just wasn't there; probably because we hadn't run it enough during the season. Could have run it to Bell more, as well. Was also hoping we'd move some of the left-side sets more to the inside of the court, but that only happened once or twice that I can remember. I expect PSU to try all the above against BYU tomorrow night.
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Post by VolleyTX on Dec 19, 2014 11:40:42 GMT -5
McCage has been relegated to a utility play more and more each year. I think she is being severaly underutilized. I haven't looked at the stats, but I would guess that this year has been her least effective year so far with Texas.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Dec 19, 2014 11:51:42 GMT -5
I don't think Stanford played as well as Texas did. Penn State did not have a good match. Luckily, they have so much talent that it seems like there is always someone there to step up. Last night it was MC. She was terrific. Penn State was mentally tougher last night than any other team in OKC. I gotta hand it to them; even when they were behind in a set, it seemed to me as if Stanford was the team on their heels. and that really has been the case over a long period of time. They have developed a great culture of confidence, competitiveness and will. While Stanford and Texas have been right there with them in terms of talent, they are at another level in those areas. Even listening to Dunning in the pre-match interview, he just sure sounded like a guy who hoped his team could beat Penn St. even though they already had. PSU has what Tiger Woods had over the field in his prime, an aura of invincibility that makes great opponents doubt, when PSU doesn't.
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Post by southie on Dec 19, 2014 11:55:48 GMT -5
Penn State was mentally tougher last night than any other team in OKC. I gotta hand it to them; even when they were behind in a set, it seemed to me as if Stanford was the team on their heels. and that really has been the case over a long period of time. They have developed a great culture of confidence, competitiveness and will. While Stanford and Texas have been right there with them in terms of talent, they are at another level in those areas. Even listening to Dunning in the pre-match interview, he just sure sounded like a guy who hoped his team could beat Penn St. even though they already had. PSU has what Tiger Woods had over the field in his prime, an aura of invincibility that makes great opponents doubt, when PSU doesn't. PSU has no doubt been the measuring stick over the last 9 years or so. They are to volleyball what UConn has been to women's hoops most recently.
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Post by itsallrelative on Dec 19, 2014 11:56:08 GMT -5
Say what you want about Elliott, but at the end of the day he went over and shook hands with Olmstead. There were lots of reasons why they lost that game and that touch call was just a very small part of it. Elliot does have class, he may make poor decisions about coaching but when it's all said and done he gives credit where it's due, he doesn't throw a fit and try and get physical with a very respected figure in volleyball, good ol Jim at Washington. Cook WAS respected and now he just looks downright old. I think he gets way too caught up in the moment...his behavior this season is atrocious. The "choking" gesture is unacceptable, in my opinion, and based on what I think I saw him saying AFTER he got the yellow, he should have gotten a red to end the match.
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