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Post by southie on Dec 19, 2014 12:08:41 GMT -5
Elliot does have class, he may make poor decisions about coaching but when it's all said and done he gives credit where it's due, he doesn't throw a fit and try and get physical with a very respected figure in volleyball, good ol Jim at Washington. Cook WAS respected and now he just looks downright old. I think he gets way too caught up in the moment...his behavior this season is atrocious. The "choking" gesture is unacceptable, in my opinion, and based on what I think I saw him saying AFTER he got the yellow, he should have gotten a red to end the match. It's a good thing the officials are the ones to decide when to issue the red card . . .
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Post by uscyaaa on Dec 19, 2014 12:13:36 GMT -5
LOL, at least they didn't "go down" as hard as USC, I see you USCYAAA LOL....USC was embarrassing to say the least. you mean like losing to an unranked team in the Final Four? LOL how embarrassing... (see what I did there?)
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Post by texasnewbie on Dec 19, 2014 12:28:09 GMT -5
Elliot does have class, he may make poor decisions about coaching but when it's all said and done he gives credit where it's due, he doesn't throw a fit and try and get physical with a very respected figure in volleyball, good ol Jim at Washington. Cook WAS respected and now he just looks downright old. I think he gets way too caught up in the moment...his behavior this season is atrocious. The "choking" gesture is unacceptable, in my opinion, and based on what I think I saw him saying AFTER he got the yellow, he should have gotten a red to end the match. Well if you want to red card coaches and players based on choice phrases or words then you better be ready with thousands, as much as the F bomb has been dropped on live TV by players and coaches around the country....Palmer against USC, F yeah! Werth against Texas at Texas.... telling the up ref "that's effing bull poop" after he called her line shot out. LOL...they've all done it!
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Post by bigfan on Dec 19, 2014 12:29:36 GMT -5
Texas chocked. Over-rated team. BYU beat them down and let them know who is the MASTER. I look into Bevo's eyes and see the back of his skull, same as Elliott.
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Post by texasnewbie on Dec 19, 2014 12:31:30 GMT -5
LOL, at least they didn't "go down" as hard as USC, I see you USCYAAA LOL....USC was embarrassing to say the least. you mean like losing to an unranked team in the Final Four? LOL how embarrassing... (see what I did there?) I did see that, and I'm sure you'll even talk about USC sweeping the floor with Texas in Florida when Faucette was a Freshman and choking in Sacramento. Or when Texas flat out embarrassed USC at Texas in 2012, at least we've been the last 4 years, you went to a mediocre final four in San Antonio in 2011, that's it. You have no business talking if you're a USC fan, you're team was lucky to even make the tournament.
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Post by texasnewbie on Dec 19, 2014 12:34:33 GMT -5
Texas chocked. Over-rated team. BYU beat them down and let them know who is the MASTER. I look into Bevo's eyes and see the back of his skull, same as Elliott. The master? Really? I shouldn't even comment to this because it's just flat out dumb, but I had to because I just wanted to you to know it's dumb. I bet you shop at "hot topic" and wear black eyeliner LOL
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Post by sunsuphornsup on Dec 19, 2014 12:36:37 GMT -5
you mean like losing to an unranked team in the Final Four? LOL how embarrassing... (see what I did there?) I did see that, and I'm sure you'll even talk about USC sweeping the floor with Texas in Florida when Faucette was a Freshman and choking in Sacramento. Or when Texas flat out embarrassed USC at Texas in 2012, at least we've been the last 4 years, you went to a mediocre final four in San Antonio in 2011, that's it. You have no business talking if you're a USC fan, you're team was lucky to even make the tournament. I love hearing from all these fans of teams who have nowhere near the success that Texas has had recently.
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Post by texasnewbie on Dec 19, 2014 13:00:42 GMT -5
I did see that, and I'm sure you'll even talk about USC sweeping the floor with Texas in Florida when Faucette was a Freshman and choking in Sacramento. Or when Texas flat out embarrassed USC at Texas in 2012, at least we've been the last 4 years, you went to a mediocre final four in San Antonio in 2011, that's it. You have no business talking if you're a USC fan, you're team was lucky to even make the tournament. I love hearing from all these fans of teams who have nowhere near the success that Texas has had recently. Exactly, I mean honestly, Texas didn't play to their potential, honestly that hasn't happened in my opinion all season, because if it had, we'd be whipping whoever in that final. A mediocre Texas makes the final four....again....and we had errors on our end that caused us to lose out again, that's ok, we will learn and move on, but these haters on here for Texas just can't seem to do the same. I agree sunsuphornsup!
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Post by SportyBucky on Dec 19, 2014 13:07:32 GMT -5
As for Texas/BYU match: The left sides could get NOTHING going offensively.... Even Bell didn't perform well... she barely hit over 100. The two left sides hit under 100. The ONLY player that played a good match for Texas was Ogbogu. Without her steller performance, the match would have probably been over in 3 sets. It was the Hamson and Gray show for BYU. If Boswell can get her offensive game going again in the finall..... penn state is going to have their hands full. Obviously, the passing wasn't that great for Texas. I thought our strategy would be to go more to the Middles and Right-side attackers. Thought we'd give Eckerman and Neal more swings from the right side. Not the best idea going at Hamson, IMO. I've been complaining all year that we weren't running the slide (McCage's bread and butter play) enough. We tried it more last night than in any match this season, but the timing just wasn't there; probably because we hadn't run it enough during the season. Could have run it to Bell more, as well. Was also hoping we'd move some of the left-side sets more to the inside of the court, but that only happened once or twice that I can remember. I expect PSU to try all the above against BYU tomorrow night. Texas played okay given what they were up against. Passing is hit or miss with them, particularly Amy Neil. You can't have a 5'10" OH who can't pass or terminate. I still think changes need to come at setter. Last night exposed TX's biggest weakness, in my opinion. Against most teams, TX can hit with moderately paced sets. Against better blocking and defensive teams, they need more speed and deception. Elliott has either not recruiter or implemented that system. Saw the need to adjustment but TX couldn't make the changes. Chloe may be able to run that offense (although she hasn't shown yet she can). Dalton, in my opinion, cannot. I really want a six rotation OH and another DS to shore up passing and Chloe to play all the way around, or get another setter with height. I don't get how TX has insane hitters and can't get the other missing pieces. Liked Molly on the slide and that is a true disadvantage of the system TX ran this year. She was the highlight player in the final four last year on that slide and blocking. New offense has done little to utilize her skill. There's a reason Paulina transferred. Love Obagu! She's a beast. McCoy played well and touched a lot of balls. Tough angles and I didn't see great adjustments, even though Hamson hits back line pretty well. Maybe a walk-on at DS? Can Chloe speed it up when needed?
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Post by gogophers on Dec 19, 2014 13:13:03 GMT -5
It isn't my intention to rag on Texas (though I admit that I find the "hook 'em" sign annoying). The team is obviously excellent and not being the lone survivor among 335 teams or the lone 2 survivors playing for the championship doesn't prove otherwise. I don't know the players, but if I did, I bet I'd consider them nice kids and exemplary examples of the student-athlete. I know that Eckerman has combined motherhood, her studies, and playing at the highest level, and that's pretty remarkable right there. I had the chance to observe Elliot at the regionals interact with the arena staff, his assistants, and his players, and he seemed unfailingly gracious. I don't hate Texas, though I confess to jealousy.
But (and you know there would be a but), I feel constrained to note that nobody, not even PSU and Stanford, has a roster so filled with prepvolleyball top 10 recruits. I count 9 on the current roster (including Baker, who admittedly isn't up to snuff this year). Nine! That's twice as many as PSU and Stanford combined, and by any measure an absolutely incredible number of top recruits. Has any other team in NCAA history ever had so many top, top recruits, and at every position? (In addition to all this top 10 talent, the libero, albeit a freshman and although lacking a top 10 ranking (as all liberos lack), was the top ranked libero in her class.)
To those who have been given much, much is expected. Texas has certainly had lots of success, with all of its many final four appearances. But I think one can fairly say that it has consistently underachieved just the same, given that it is, as much as anything, the prepvb all star team.
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Post by SportyBucky on Dec 19, 2014 13:13:24 GMT -5
I love hearing from all these fans of teams who have nowhere near the success that Texas has had recently. Exactly, I mean honestly, Texas didn't play to their potential, honestly that hasn't happened in my opinion all season, because if it had, we'd be whipping whoever in that final. A mediocre Texas makes the final four....again....and we had errors on our end that caused us to lose out again, that's ok, we will learn and move on, but these haters on here for Texas just can't seem to do the same. I agree sunsuphornsup! Weaknesses were exposed by a team that knew and was capable of exposing those weaknesses. It's not about TX just not playing well yesterday. A team exposed a few issues that have existed all season. Passing is bad. Setting is bad. I haven't seen a consistent attack from Paulina. Those were magnified because the other team across the net didn't make errors and could block, pass, etc... Did you notice Nicole lolly-popping the serve? That's an issue at an elite level. She and the rest of TX can get away with that against lesser competition in the Big 12, and even against a two-headed, overrated monster like FL. I am glad to see Elliott getting better competition in preseason but it's an issue when league play doesn't prepare you for a tournament. You see it time and again with FL, ACC teams, KY. TX has had GREAT teams that have proven themselves in the past, but I don't think that was this or last year. It starts with passing and that should be priority one for 2016. After the block fest BYU put on, what became clear to me was we gave their big block WAY too much time to close. Speed is critical to splitting those blocks and giving smaller hitters and those hitting into the block a window. Haley started adjusting by hitting high hands but only because she's the best. Can't expect that of everyone.
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Post by southie on Dec 19, 2014 13:14:59 GMT -5
Texas chocked. Over-rated team. BYU beat them down and let them know who is the MASTER. I look into Bevo's eyes and see the back of his skull, same as Elliott. Say hi to Mick for us! All that talent USC has and the best he can do is squeak them into the tournament by the skin of their teeth.
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Post by uscyaaa on Dec 19, 2014 13:16:32 GMT -5
you mean like losing to an unranked team in the Final Four? LOL how embarrassing... (see what I did there?) I did see that, and I'm sure you'll even talk about USC sweeping the floor with Texas in Florida when Faucette was a Freshman and choking in Sacramento. Or when Texas flat out embarrassed USC at Texas in 2012, at least we've been the last 4 years, you went to a mediocre final four in San Antonio in 2011, that's it. You have no business talking if you're a USC fan, you're team was lucky to even make the tournament. I have every business talking as a USC fan. You mean when Texas was a higher seed in Florida against USC? You want to talk about choking (2008 and 2009 with a 2-0 lead...does that ring a bell?). Of course you have to pound your chest and say "well we got there" when you only have one ring to show for it. Then again, maybe ask yourself why Salima Rockwell went back to Penn State?
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Post by uscyaaa on Dec 19, 2014 13:17:54 GMT -5
Texas chocked. Over-rated team. BYU beat them down and let them know who is the MASTER. I look into Bevo's eyes and see the back of his skull, same as Elliott. Say hi to Mick for us! All that talent USC has and the best he can do is squeak them into the tournament by the skin of their teeth. Mick would like to say hi with having more rings on his finger I'm sure.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Dec 19, 2014 13:21:34 GMT -5
Just watched the match -- Texas lost this match all on their own, but seriously how in the world does a down ref call a microtouch on a play that happens on the other side of the court from him?! That's total bullsh1t.
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