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Post by whowasthat on Oct 12, 2015 11:56:57 GMT -5
Has there been any update or information released regarding Courtney's ankle injury? I sure hope it is minor and she does not miss any significant matches. The only thing I know is that she has been seen on campus wearing a boot. If that's so, then, hopefully it's nothing structural and a simple sprain that she just need to rest up for awhile.
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Post by jarredk on Oct 12, 2015 17:26:21 GMT -5
So - knowing that Rose is a stat guy, and comparing the stats from this year to last year, I see a few glaring discrepancies.
1. Frantti: Of your 4 returning starters, she is the only one who has a statistically significant dropoff in most stats. Her hitting % went from .310 to .238, her blocks per set went from .48 to .29 and her points per set went from 3.82 to 2.78.
2. Courtney's total attacks is significantly higher (534 in about half the year versus 794 the entire last year) while Whitney's is lower (312 in half the year versus 745 the entire last year). When you have Courtney as important as she is in other phases of the game, and Whitney hitting .070 better and Washington almost .200 better, I think the ball needs to be distributed a bit better.
3. Receiving errors. This one is not a shock, but (other than Courtney whose doing much better on receive than last year), the team is doing overall much worse. I know you can't compare Dom to Holcomb (who already has more errors than Dom all of last year), but you can compare Frantti to Frantti who already has 16 errors -- 3 more than all of last year. Yikes.
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Post by Boof1224 on Oct 14, 2015 22:22:46 GMT -5
Anyone have update on Courtney and know if she will be playing this weekend or not?
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Post by austintatious on Oct 14, 2015 22:31:39 GMT -5
I don't think the weather will be a factor in her playing.
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Post by hammer on Oct 14, 2015 22:41:26 GMT -5
So - knowing that Rose is a stat guy, and comparing the stats from this year to last year, I see a few glaring discrepancies. 1. Frantti: Of your 4 returning starters, she is the only one who has a statistically significant dropoff in most stats. Her hitting % went from .310 to .238, her blocks per set went from .48 to .29 and her points per set went from 3.82 to 2.78. 2. Courtney's total attacks is significantly higher (534 in about half the year versus 794 the entire last year) while Whitney's is lower (312 in half the year versus 745 the entire last year). When you have Courtney as important as she is in other phases of the game, and Whitney hitting .070 better and Washington almost .200 better, I think the ball needs to be distributed a bit better. 3. Receiving errors. This one is not a shock, but (other than Courtney whose doing much better on receive than last year), the team is doing overall much worse. I know you can't compare Dom to Holcomb (who already has more errors than Dom all of last year), but you can compare Frantti to Frantti who already has 16 errors -- 3 more than all of last year. Yikes. As an independent observer (sort of), I find those stats about Frantti very interesting. Usually year one to year two is where you see the most improvement. Of course, each individual is different, but this is a pretty severe sophomore slump. I guess a partial explanation could be weaker sets. I wonder if there is some type of injury (like Burgess @ Stanford).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 0:56:15 GMT -5
So - knowing that Rose is a stat guy, and comparing the stats from this year to last year, I see a few glaring discrepancies. 1. Frantti: Of your 4 returning starters, she is the only one who has a statistically significant dropoff in most stats. Her hitting % went from .310 to .238, her blocks per set went from .48 to .29 and her points per set went from 3.82 to 2.78. 2. Courtney's total attacks is significantly higher (534 in about half the year versus 794 the entire last year) while Whitney's is lower (312 in half the year versus 745 the entire last year). When you have Courtney as important as she is in other phases of the game, and Whitney hitting .070 better and Washington almost .200 better, I think the ball needs to be distributed a bit better. 3. Receiving errors. This one is not a shock, but (other than Courtney whose doing much better on receive than last year), the team is doing overall much worse. I know you can't compare Dom to Holcomb (who already has more errors than Dom all of last year), but you can compare Frantti to Frantti who already has 16 errors -- 3 more than all of last year. Yikes. Usually year one to year two is where you see the most improvement. Says who?
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Post by hammer on Oct 15, 2015 1:21:41 GMT -5
Usually year one to year two is where you see the most improvement. Says who? Collegiate coaches that I've talked to, but also my observation watching the game for so many years. Although, I do think that with the rise of club ball players today are more mature coming into the collegiate game. Hence that lessens their improvement from year one to year two. If you take a player like Hayley Hodson, who arrived at Stanford with National Team training, I would not expect significant improvement. OTOH, if you take a player like Inky Ajanaku, who was more raw upon matriculation at Stanford, there was significant improvement.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 1:53:44 GMT -5
Collegiate coaches that I've talked to, but also my observation watching the game for so many years. Although, I do think that with the rise of club ball players today are more mature coming into the collegiate game. Hence that lessens their improvement from year one to year two. If you take a player like Hayley Hodson, who arrived at Stanford with National Team training, I would not expect significant improvement. OTOH, if you take a player like Inky Ajanaku, who was more raw upon matriculation at Stanford, there was significant improvement. Well, of course. I think there are many, many examples of athletes underperforming in their sophomore seasons, relative to expectations following their freshman year, just as I'm sure there are many, many examples of the opposite. I just thought it was a weird comment. The "sophomore slump" isn't a myth.
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Post by ugopher on Oct 15, 2015 8:49:28 GMT -5
Collegiate coaches that I've talked to, but also my observation watching the game for so many years. Although, I do think that with the rise of club ball players today are more mature coming into the collegiate game. Hence that lessens their improvement from year one to year two. If you take a player like Hayley Hodson, who arrived at Stanford with National Team training, I would not expect significant improvement. OTOH, if you take a player like Inky Ajanaku, who was more raw upon matriculation at Stanford, there was significant improvement. Well, of course. I think there are many, many examples of athletes underperforming in their sophomore seasons, relative to expectations following their freshman year, just as I'm sure there are many, many examples of the opposite. I just thought it was a weird comment. The "sophomore slump" isn't a myth. I can understand how a player can improve from their freshman to sophomore seasons. First, for the first time in probably 6 years, players actually get a break from volleyball. Many players go from HS season directly to club season, a week or so off and then back to the HS season. After a collegiate season is over, they get time off to let their bodies, and psyche, heal. They may do some individual stuff and there is weightlifting/training but it is still a break. Second, they have a full year of a team's system and training behind them. I spoke with a college coach about why a player who was in a top national club had such poor technique and he replied that the club's goal was to win. If a player could play with that technique and the team was winning, there was no incentive to correct. He said they often needed to re-train players. Third, they have spent a year in a program's nutritional program. Amazing how many players' bodies change from their freshman to sophomore years. The other big improvement can be in a player's senior season. I asked the coach above why a player who had been serviceable in her first three years was having such a solid and improved senior season. He simply replied that the player realized that this was her last year and her focus was completely different.
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Post by hammer on Oct 15, 2015 13:10:57 GMT -5
Collegiate coaches that I've talked to, but also my observation watching the game for so many years. Although, I do think that with the rise of club ball players today are more mature coming into the collegiate game. Hence that lessens their improvement from year one to year two. If you take a player like Hayley Hodson, who arrived at Stanford with National Team training, I would not expect significant improvement. OTOH, if you take a player like Inky Ajanaku, who was more raw upon matriculation at Stanford, there was significant improvement. Well, of course. I think there are many, many examples of athletes underperforming in their sophomore seasons, relative to expectations following their freshman year, just as I'm sure there are many, many examples of the opposite. I just thought it was a weird comment. The "sophomore slump" isn't a myth. I'd say it is much less likely than the reverse based upon my many years watching Stanford/Pac-12. But, every case is different so you have to look at the circumstances. Burgess at Stanford is a case in point playing with injuries and no Inky to hold the block. Her numbers are down significantly also.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Oct 15, 2015 14:48:09 GMT -5
Part of it is just a matter of expectations - lower for freshmen; higher for sophomores. Higher expectations mean higher pressure (external and internal) to perform, as well as greater roles to carry.
There is also a difference between true and redshirt sophomores, with the "slump" more likely to effect the former than the latter.
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Post by akbar on Oct 15, 2015 15:06:49 GMT -5
Part of it is just a matter of expectations - lower for freshmen; higher for sophomores. Higher expectations mean higher pressure (external and internal) to perform, as well as greater roles to carry. There is also a difference between true and redshirt sophomores, with the "slump" more likely to effect the former than the latter. I have a hunch Ali will find her groove these next two weeks. Not having a player that PSU started to over rely on may have a positive effect on her and the others. That is not meant to be disrespectful to Megan nor to imply that she was the cause of Ali's lack of consistent production. I'm sure there were a myriad of factors involved but getting the extra reps in every area and maybe getting a moment or two to "carry" the team might be really helpful for her mindset. PSU's greatest advantage was the 3 or 4 different arms that could carry the team on any given night or set. They need to get back to that, as it seems they were becoming too reliant on 1 or 2 people. Can't win a NC that way no matter how good those individuals are.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 15:10:13 GMT -5
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Post by Boof1224 on Oct 15, 2015 15:21:58 GMT -5
They need to move Whitney back to the outside. They were better team when she was over there
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Post by whowasthat on Oct 15, 2015 17:08:52 GMT -5
They need to move Whitney back to the outside. They were better team when she was over there Especially if Megan is unavailable, Frantti and Lee are not enough for the outside hitters
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