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Post by Longhorn20 on Mar 27, 2015 13:08:23 GMT -5
No, but I do seriously think that Skjodt is the best of the girls that were playing that night for the East. She will make an impact in the B1G, and I find it amusing that everyone is sleeping on Michigan. All back but Dannemiller. Skjodt will be their OH1 from day one. She's the kind of player who can carry a team. However, I'm more worried about who will replace Dannemiller. The other two setters on the roster are not very good. I mean, look at what happened to Nebraska this past season. I agree. I think 2016 Mighigan will be awesome!
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Post by badgerbreath on Mar 27, 2015 13:26:54 GMT -5
No, but I do seriously think that Skjodt is the best of the girls that were playing that night for the East. She will make an impact in the B1G, and I find it amusing that everyone is sleeping on Michigan. All back but Dannemiller. Skjodt will be their OH1 from day one. She's the kind of player who can carry a team. However, I'm more worried about who will replace Dannemiller. The other two setters on the roster are not very good. I mean, look at what happened to Nebraska this past season. This is my thinking with Michigan as well. Dannemiller was really important to that team, skill wise and leadership wise. She is a big miss. When she came back in to the team they instantly became a lot more dangerous, even with all of the other key injuries. We'll see how they cope.
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Post by badgerbreath on Mar 27, 2015 13:37:42 GMT -5
To get back to the topic of this thread...Getting on the B1G lists isn't about potential, it's about the kind of player your team allows you to be. One reason I downrate Skjodt's chances of FOY is Dannemiller's absence next year. With Dannemiller I actually think she would have a good shot.
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Post by alt on Mar 27, 2015 19:01:01 GMT -5
Skjodt will be their OH1 from day one. She's the kind of player who can carry a team. However, I'm more worried about who will replace Dannemiller. The other two setters on the roster are not very good. I mean, look at what happened to Nebraska this past season. This is my thinking with Michigan as well. Dannemiller was really important to that team, skill wise and leadership wise. She is a big miss. When she came back in to the team they instantly became a lot more dangerous, even with all of the other key injuries. We'll see how they cope. Skjodt is good, but Alexa Smith is at another level IMO. If you guys are all basing your opinions on Skjodt's performance during the Under Armour All American, I think Smith played a better game. Alexa had the most kills in that match. In that case Purdue would probably be better than Michigan next year. Skjodt played with Lauren Gillis (USC) during club. Gilis was the main score pointer on that club team, while Carly was second. Gillis IMO was a better player that Skjodt is during her senior year, but during her first year at USC Gillis did not play well. These girls get their kills by hitting the ball straight down. They need to learn you cant do that in college. That's why I think Alexa is better because she does not just hit the ball as hard as possible, she goes for hands or the last two feet of the court.
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Post by badgerbreath on Mar 27, 2015 19:22:47 GMT -5
This is my thinking with Michigan as well. Dannemiller was really important to that team, skill wise and leadership wise. She is a big miss. When she came back in to the team they instantly became a lot more dangerous, even with all of the other key injuries. We'll see how they cope. If you guys are all basing your opinions on Skjodt's performance during the Under Armour All American.... Who are you talking to?
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Post by alt on Mar 27, 2015 19:28:13 GMT -5
If you guys are all basing your opinions on Skjodt's performance during the Under Armour All American.... Who are you talking to? Skjodt will be their OH1 from day one. She's the kind of player who can carry a team. No, but I do seriously think that Skjodt is the best of the girls that were playing that night for the East. She will make an impact in the B1G, and I find it amusing that everyone is sleeping on Michigan.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Mar 27, 2015 19:31:56 GMT -5
Skjodt will be their OH1 from day one. She's the kind of player who can carry a team. No, but I do seriously think that Skjodt is the best of the girls that were playing that night for the East. She will make an impact in the B1G, and I find it amusing that everyone is sleeping on Michigan. That did nothing to answer badgerbreaths question......
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Post by alt on Mar 27, 2015 19:41:43 GMT -5
Skjodt will be their OH1 from day one. She's the kind of player who can carry a team. No, but I do seriously think that Skjodt is the best of the girls that were playing that night for the East. She will make an impact in the B1G, and I find it amusing that everyone is sleeping on Michigan. That did nothing to answer badgerbreaths question...... K
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Post by firedup on Mar 28, 2015 0:02:33 GMT -5
I find it extremely amusing how posters continue to focus on an all-star match to evaluate talent. To be honest, only 3-4 kids in that match performed like All-America players, but that is ok. The kids had not played for a month! This was an ugly match. I would take more stock in comments if they were based on their club volleyball skills. I just think it is crazy silly to keep using 2-3 games in December to determine the level of these players. Optimism about Skjodt is NOT based on the UA All Star Game. She was Indiana's Gatorade Player of the Year, prepvolleyball.com's National High School player of the year, has been on club teams that have been in the mix at AAU's and was voted the MVP of the East team at the UA game. The young woman can play and will have a chance to prove how well she can make the jump to B1G action. Now to somewhat tie this argument back to the original thread, it will be a challenge for Skjodt to be considered for B1G FOY for several reasons, not the least of which is the number of super talented players, including Carly, that are coming into the league this season. If I had to guess today on most likely candidate for this honor, I'd say that Ms. Poulter at Illinois has a great shot to wear this title. Time will tell. As for Alexa Smith at Purdue, there is no doubt that she is a phenomenal player and great get for the Boilermakers. I hope she recovers quickly from whatever is causing challenges with her shoulder, and that it doesn't impact this coming season. Stay tuned.
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Post by firedup on Mar 28, 2015 0:09:02 GMT -5
No, but I do seriously think that Skjodt is the best of the girls that were playing that night for the East. She will make an impact in the B1G, and I find it amusing that everyone is sleeping on Michigan. All back but Dannemiller. Skjodt will be their OH1 from day one. She's the kind of player who can carry a team. However, I'm more worried about who will replace Dannemiller. The other two setters on the roster are not very good. I mean, look at what happened to Nebraska this past season. Both Warner and Zhou can play the game, with Warner being a little ahead, in my opinion. In 2014, Carly was not the reason the Wolverines started 5-5. The fact that they lost to UNC, Duke and Oregon State was more about other issues than the setter. If Carly was solid enough to play for SPRI for several years, then I am sure she will do yeoman's work trying to fill the role of Lexi. Everyone else returns for Michigan plus you add four talented players including Skjodt.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 12:00:35 GMT -5
Skjodt will be their OH1 from day one. She's the kind of player who can carry a team. However, I'm more worried about who will replace Dannemiller. The other two setters on the roster are not very good. I mean, look at what happened to Nebraska this past season. Both Warner and Zhou can play the game, with Warner being a little ahead, in my opinion. In 2014, Carly was not the reason the Wolverines started 5-5. The fact that they lost to UNC, Duke and Oregon State was more about other issues than the setter. If Carly was solid enough to play for SPRI for several years, then I am sure she will do yeoman's work trying to fill the role of Lexi. Everyone else returns for Michigan plus you add four talented players including Skjodt. Warner and Zhou are not Big Ten-caliber setters. Michigan will be weakest in that position, and that's a pretty important position to be weak in.
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Post by firedup on Mar 30, 2015 14:04:57 GMT -5
Both Warner and Zhou can play the game, with Warner being a little ahead, in my opinion. In 2014, Carly was not the reason the Wolverines started 5-5. The fact that they lost to UNC, Duke and Oregon State was more about other issues than the setter. If Carly was solid enough to play for SPRI for several years, then I am sure she will do yeoman's work trying to fill the role of Lexi. Everyone else returns for Michigan plus you add four talented players including Skjodt. Warner and Zhou are not Big Ten-caliber setters. Michigan will be weakest in that position, and that's a pretty important position to be weak in. Using this as a launching point about the B1G and its setters, please submit your rank order of whom you know will be the starting setter, or believe to be come August. I could not disagree more with the assertion of shhhhhhhhhhh that Michigan will be weakest in the conference at the setter position. Not to mention, there are lots of other facets of the game that matter a ton. MANY B1G schools with a tremendous amount of uncertainty at the setter position this year either due to graduation, transfer or true freshmen making the leap. Here's mine: Wisconsin - Carlini Michigan State - Minarick Illinois - Poulter Northwestern - Tashima (even if running a 6-2 with Ryan) Nebraska - Hunter Minnesota - SSS Penn State - Weiskircher Indiana - Tallman Iowa - Keala Michigan - Warner Maryland - Oggioni Purdue - Dimke/Evans Ohio State - Heim Rutgers - Holze
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Post by alt on Mar 30, 2015 14:15:51 GMT -5
Warner and Zhou are not Big Ten-caliber setters. Michigan will be weakest in that position, and that's a pretty important position to be weak in. Using this as a launching point about the B1G and its setters, please submit your rank order of whom you know will be the starting setter, or believe to be come August. I could not disagree more with the assertion of shhhhhhhhhhh that Michigan will be weakest in the conference at the setter position. Not to mention, there are lots of other facets of the game that matter a ton. MANY B1G schools with a tremendous amount of uncertainty at the setter position this year either due to graduation, transfer or true freshmen making the leap. Here's mine: Wisconsin - Carlini Michigan State - Minarick Illinois - Poulter Northwestern - Tashima (even if running a 6-2 with Ryan) Nebraska - Hunter Minnesota - SSS Penn State - Weiskircher Indiana - Tallman Iowa - Keala Michigan - Warner Maryland - Oggioni Purdue - Dimke/Evans Ohio State - Heim Rutgers - Holze I'd say the same thing. Now who do you guys think are going to be the top 6 setters in conference next year. Heres mine. 1) Carlini 2) Jordyn Poulter 3/4) Taylor Tashima/ Rachel Minarick (it's a toss up between these two) 5) Hunter 6) Weiskircher
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Post by badgerbreath on Mar 30, 2015 15:04:44 GMT -5
Warner and Zhou are not Big Ten-caliber setters. Michigan will be weakest in that position, and that's a pretty important position to be weak in. Using this as a launching point about the B1G and its setters, please submit your rank order of whom you know will be the starting setter, or believe to be come August. I could not disagree more with the assertion of shhhhhhhhhhh that Michigan will be weakest in the conference at the setter position. Was the assertion that Michigan would be weakest in the conference at setter, or that setter would be the weakest position for Michigan?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 17:08:19 GMT -5
Warner and Zhou are not Big Ten-caliber setters. Michigan will be weakest in that position, and that's a pretty important position to be weak in. Using this as a launching point about the B1G and its setters, please submit your rank order of whom you know will be the starting setter, or believe to be come August. I could not disagree more with the assertion of shhhhhhhhhhh that Michigan will be weakest in the conference at the setter position. Not to mention, there are lots of other facets of the game that matter a ton. MANY B1G schools with a tremendous amount of uncertainty at the setter position this year either due to graduation, transfer or true freshmen making the leap. Here's mine: Wisconsin - Carlini Michigan State - Minarick Illinois - Poulter Northwestern - Tashima (even if running a 6-2 with Ryan) Nebraska - Hunter Minnesota - SSS Penn State - Weiskircher Indiana - Tallman Iowa - Keala Michigan - Warner Maryland - Oggioni Purdue - Dimke/Evans Ohio State - Heim Rutgers - Holze I'm interested to know who made the assertion that Michigan would be the weakest in the conference at the setting position. I certainly didn't say that. Regarding your list, I'm sure that it's correct, since most of those choices are fairly obvious, except for Penn State. I predict that the Puerto Rican freshman starts the season. A staff doesn't add a setter in your same class unless they're unsure/unhappy about your ability/development. To clarify my original point that prompted your response, while I'm sure Warner and Zhou are capable enough to set a scout team in practice, I do not believe that either of them are B1G-caliber starting setters, capable of leading a team through a grueling 5-month season. I believe that the lack of talent at the setting position will be a problem for the Wolverines in the fall. Getting Cole the ball as often as possible will be a huge (and blatantly obvious) key to success for Michigan, and I'm not sure that Zhou or Warner has the experience to be able to do so. Perhaps I'll be wrong.
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