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Post by s0uthie on Mar 25, 2015 14:09:19 GMT -5
That's an interesting roster makeup. Are any of those players backup setters? Do any of those middles hit on the right side? 4 pin hitters for 3 positions doesn't provide much depth. 17 players, so I assume some of them are walk-ons already?
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Post by WahineFan44 on Mar 25, 2015 14:11:40 GMT -5
I cannot argue they should have won more Championships (I think 3), but the passing was acceptable up until the last two years. The libero position has been inconsistent from 2010-2013. When Sha'Dare McNeil (from SoCal also ) graduated that had a bigger impact than most people think because she was like having a second libero in the back, and just had one of the best all-around games.
bigfan, you should not be throwing stones being a USC fan; watching USC last year play floor defense and SR..... if USC was in a corvette they coundn't pass a school bus going uphill!
At least 4 in the last ten years? That's pretty unfair. Do you not have any idea how much talent PSU has had in the past 10 years? In what years was their talent just flat out better? 2009. While the talent was the same, texas blew a 2-0 lead. 2013. Texas was the absolute favorite and choked against a wisconsin team they should of beaten (granted Wisconsin played a great game). I think they they should of won those two years.
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Post by sunsuphornsup on Mar 25, 2015 14:13:19 GMT -5
That's an interesting roster makeup. Are any of those players backup setters? Do any of those middles hit on the right side? 4 pin hitters for 3 positions doesn't provide much depth. 17 players, so I assume some of them are walk-ons already? I anticipate that Brionne Butler may transition to the pins or that we may pick up another setter. I believe someone mentioned once that Claire Hahn was a setter, but I'm not sure. I wonder if Nicole Dalton will RS again this year or if that's even possible. If so, that would mean she would be a senior in 2017.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Mar 25, 2015 14:20:47 GMT -5
That's an interesting roster makeup. Are any of those players backup setters? Do any of those middles hit on the right side? 4 pin hitters for 3 positions doesn't provide much depth. 17 players, so I assume some of them are walk-ons already? I anticipate that Brionne Butler may transition to the pins or that we may pick up another setter. I believe someone mentioned once that Claire Hahn was a setter, but I'm not sure. I wonder if Nicole Dalton will RS again this year or if that's even possible. If so, that would mean she would be a senior in 2017. Im sure she could petition the NCAA to get a second RS, but isn't it pretty hard to get? I thought it was only in the cases of pregnancy, etc?
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Post by Longhorn20 on Mar 25, 2015 14:26:32 GMT -5
I'm excited as well!! She already is an elite attacker who is starting on a good 18's team! What I think people are forgetting is that she has 2 more years to work on her skills (especially passing) before she even gets to campus! Going off the conversation earlier on passing, if her and Buckinghame start on the left in 2017, I think Texas' passing woes will be greatly improved. Plus the solid DS/L's they'll have there as well! I'm very excited for the future! I don't see Buckingham starting over White in 2017 barring injury. White is a beast on the left side attack, and at this stage is decent in passing and has the athleticism to improve. I think it will be whatever need needs to be filled. Right now I think Buckingham has to potential to be a dynamic L2 for Texas, But if White's passing is at that same level, I am even more excited for the future of this Texas team.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Mar 25, 2015 15:19:36 GMT -5
At least 4 in the last ten years? That's pretty unfair. Do you not have any idea how much talent PSU has had in the past 10 years? In what years was their talent just flat out better? 2009. While the talent was the same, texas blew a 2-0 lead. 2013. Texas was the absolute favorite and choked against a wisconsin team they should of beaten (granted Wisconsin played a great game). I think they they should of won those two years. PSU raised their level, losing a 2-0 lead doesnt mean you choked. Also, they didnt lose to UW in the final, they would have had to play another team that was pretty decent. Texas could have won those two years, but should have? I disagree.
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Post by vbprisoner on Mar 25, 2015 15:25:21 GMT -5
2009. While the talent was the same, texas blew a 2-0 lead. 2013. Texas was the absolute favorite and choked against a wisconsin team they should of beaten (granted Wisconsin played a great game). I think they they should of won those two years. PSU raised their level, losing a 2-0 lead doesnt mean you choked. Also, they didnt lose to UW in the final, they would have had to play another team that was pretty decent. Texas could have won those two years, but should have? I disagree. Humor me......I am going to make you think this through
Hypothetically, if Rose was the coach of those two Texas teams do you think they lose in the finals and semi-finals? And since this is totally fiction let's put some science in it and say his clone was still coach at PSU, so Rose is coach at Texas and PSU.
I say Texas wins.
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Post by southie on Mar 25, 2015 15:27:01 GMT -5
I'm curious to see what impact White and YBG will have in 2015. By 2017 you potentially have White, YBG, Buckingham, and Sun as pin hitters. I'm curious to see how it all works out. Barring any additional transfers/redshirts/injuries your 2017 Roster could look like this: 2017S-Ashley Shook MB/OH-Brionne Butler OH-Lexi Sun L/DS-Olivia Zelon 2016OH-Abby Buckingham L/DS-Autumn Rounsaville L/DS-Claire Hahn MB-Orie Agbaji MB-Blair Westerlund 2015OH-Micaya White OH-Yasmeen Bedhart-Ghani MB-Morgan Johnson L/DS-Lauren Beard L/DS-Natalie Gilbert 2014L/DS-Cat McCoy MB-Mirta Baselovic Biggest and most talented collection of talent the world has ever seen. I predict no championships. You should focus your predictions on whether or not Kahlia Lanier ends up signing with USC; long way to go until National Signing Day . . .
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Post by WahineFan44 on Mar 25, 2015 15:33:15 GMT -5
2009. While the talent was the same, texas blew a 2-0 lead. 2013. Texas was the absolute favorite and choked against a wisconsin team they should of beaten (granted Wisconsin played a great game). I think they they should of won those two years. PSU raised their level, losing a 2-0 lead doesnt mean you choked. Also, they didnt lose to UW in the final, they would have had to play another team that was pretty decent. Texas could have won those two years, but should have? I disagree. Texas absolutely should not have blown a 2-0 lead. Yes PSU raised their level of play, but texas was still a god damn good team who I think relaxed the third set, thinking they had it. 2013, they absolutely had more talent than PSU. EVERY position on texas roster was top ten prep recruits, minus libero. They also had two number one recruits. They were the number one seed and choked. Simple as that. Russ and PSU won because RUSS is the best coach in the game. Sure they had talent, but give texas talent to russ or shoji, and they wouldn't be stopped
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Post by canda on Mar 25, 2015 16:27:22 GMT -5
PSU raised their level, losing a 2-0 lead doesnt mean you choked. Also, they didnt lose to UW in the final, they would have had to play another team that was pretty decent. Texas could have won those two years, but should have? I disagree. Texas absolutely should not have blown a 2-0 lead. Yes PSU raised their level of play, but texas was still a god damn good team who I think relaxed the third set, thinking they had it. 2013, they absolutely had more talent than PSU. EVERY position on texas roster was top ten prep recruits, minus libero. They also had two number one recruits. They were the number one seed and choked. Simple as that. Russ and PSU won because RUSS is the best coach in the game. Sure they had talent, but give texas talent to russ or shoji, and they wouldn't be stopped PSU was fortunate that they did not have to play Texas in 2013, and other years when the Longhorns were derailed. Texas is the type of team that could give them trouble. It's possible Texas did relax in Set 3 of 2009, but PSU had the the group of women who had won before, and the freshman Darcy Dorton came off the bench with the energy that turned everything around. Ironically, that was the last year Dorton played for PSU
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Post by bigfan on Mar 25, 2015 16:31:27 GMT -5
PSU raised their level, losing a 2-0 lead doesnt mean you choked. Also, they didnt lose to UW in the final, they would have had to play another team that was pretty decent. Texas could have won those two years, but should have? I disagree. Humor me......I am going to make you think this through
Hypothetically, if Rose was the coach of those two Texas teams do you think they lose in the finals and semi-finals? And since this is totally fiction let's put some science in it and say his clone was still coach at PSU, so Rose is coach at Texas and PSU.
I say Texas wins.
I will humor you.................if Rose had those teams he would be threatening John Wooden and his 10 championships in 12 years RIGHT NOW!
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Post by bigfan on Mar 25, 2015 16:33:37 GMT -5
2013, they absolutely had more talent than PSU. EVERY position on texas roster was top ten prep recruits, minus libero. They also had two number one recruits. They were the number one seed and choked. Simple as that. Russ and PSU won because RUSS is the best coach in the game. Sure they had talent, but give texas talent to russ or shoji, and they wouldn't be stopped Truth is a beautiful thing.
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Post by jasonr on Mar 25, 2015 16:55:40 GMT -5
Texas is a great program, but I do wonder about elite players wanting to play in a conference that isn't the Big Ten or Pac-12. If I'm an elite player, I want to maximize my potential by facing great competition night in and night out during the season. UT players get better competition in practice than during league play (for the most part). That's not to take away from UT's achievements, but I think that's in part why they come up short in the postseason more often than they should. On the other hand, their postseason accomplishments are nothing but admirable; I'm just considering their results with respect to their roster talent.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Mar 25, 2015 17:01:40 GMT -5
Texas is a great program, but I do wonder about elite players wanting to play in a conference that isn't the Big Ten or Pac-12. If I'm an elite player, I want to maximize my potential by facing great competition night in and night out during the season. UT players get better competition in practice than during league play (for the most part). That's not to take away from UT's achievements, but I think that's in part why they come up short in the postseason more often than they should. On the other hand, their postseason accomplishments are nothing but admirable; I'm just considering their results with respect to their roster talent. The Big 12 isnt the MAC, its a good league, and they play plenty enough out of conference matches vs top teams. With all the great things UT has to offer recruits, their league being a step down wouldnt deter a top kid which is pretty obvious based on how well they are recruiting. Texas shortcoming (which is almost silly to say given how succesful they ARE) is that they don't have a strong enough balance of athletes and players. They are getting in many cases the players they want, not sure they are giving enough attention to the players they need. Megan Courtney hasnt been an all-american, but how much better would those UT teams have been with a Megan Courtney?
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Post by dorothymantooth on Mar 25, 2015 17:03:21 GMT -5
Humor me......I am going to make you think this through
Hypothetically, if Rose was the coach of those two Texas teams do you think they lose in the finals and semi-finals? And since this is totally fiction let's put some science in it and say his clone was still coach at PSU, so Rose is coach at Texas and PSU.
I say Texas wins.
I will humor you.................if Rose had those teams he would be threatening John Wooden and his 10 championships in 12 years RIGHT NOW! I think Rose is the best college volleyball coach in history, but the idea that Texas rolled out way better players and Rose out coached them is silly. PSU was LOADED with talent.
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