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Post by c4ndlelight on Apr 22, 2015 19:48:04 GMT -5
How the hell did Brazil win two golds if you can't win with egos? Are you exhausted from carrying that I LOVE DESTINEE sign yet Candle? You are more in denial than Tom Cruise and John Travolta combined.
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 19:55:30 GMT -5
Post by holidayhusker on Apr 22, 2015 19:55:30 GMT -5
You even said it yourself. You would welcome a player that has trashed her teammates on multiple occassions just so we can win? Do you realize how sad that sounds. Like I said earlier, I don't think it's going to take a lot of "begging" to get her back on the team. Also, from what I've read, the remarks she had made were taken down and she apologized for them. I'm sure she has learned from her mistakes. I'm saying don't completely eliminate her as an option to have for Rio. What harm will it do to invite her to practice with the team? If it really doesn't work out, then it doesn't work out. Don't you think their is probably a very very good reason she has not been asked back. Karch is not an idiot. He is a competitor. He wants to win as bad as the athletes. Think about that.
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 19:57:42 GMT -5
Post by holidayhusker on Apr 22, 2015 19:57:42 GMT -5
Are you exhausted from carrying that I LOVE DESTINEE sign yet Candle? You are more in denial than Tom Cruise and John Travolta combined. I cannot stand people like you who think superstars deserve special treatment no matter how they behave just so we might win. Its sends a horrible message to our youth yet we have a board full of grovelers like you.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Apr 22, 2015 20:00:52 GMT -5
You are more in denial than Tom Cruise and John Travolta combined. I cannot stand people like you who think superstars deserve special treatment no matter how they behave just so we might win. Its sends a horrible message to our youth yet we have a board full of grovelers like you. BUT KARCH BEHAVED EVEN WORSE. And when presented with video evidence of this ( including him tearing down the freaking net), you refused to acknowledge it. And if there's any groveler here, it's you - kneeling before St. Karch.
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 20:02:38 GMT -5
Post by WahineFan44 on Apr 22, 2015 20:02:38 GMT -5
Another PROVEN karch tantrum. I have NEVER EVER seen Hooker act like that. Diva? Yes. Acting like a baby? No
Oops didn't realize this was posted. But before this, I didn't know Karch was like that, now knowing he's like that, I am 10000 percent team destinee.
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 20:04:20 GMT -5
Post by holidayhusker on Apr 22, 2015 20:04:20 GMT -5
Another PROVEN karch tantrum. I have NEVER EVER seen Hooker act like that. Diva? Yes. Acting like a baby? No Another dipS@#@ willing to throw anyone under the bus to get their way and have their idol on the team.
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Post by holidayhusker on Apr 22, 2015 20:05:47 GMT -5
I cannot stand people like you who think superstars deserve special treatment no matter how they behave just so we might win. Its sends a horrible message to our youth yet we have a board full of grovelers like you. BUT KARCH BEHAVED EVEN WORSE. And when presented with video evidence of this ( including him tearing down the freaking net), you refused to acknowledge it. And if there's any groveler here, it's you - kneeling before St. Karch. I didn't condone his behaviour it all. He acted like a spoiled brat and should have been disqualified from the tourney. How does that relate to her behaviour?
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Post by WahineFan44 on Apr 22, 2015 20:06:36 GMT -5
Another PROVEN karch tantrum. I have NEVER EVER seen Hooker act like that. Diva? Yes. Acting like a baby? No Another dipS@#@ willing to throw anyone under the bus to get their way and have their idol on the team. DESTINEE IS NOT MY IDOL. I don't even care for her that much, but for KARCH to dismiss destinee for her attitude, when he himself has thrown the tempter tantrums equivalent to a child who doesn't get their way, simply for losing, he needs to reevaluate himself. Team USA NEEDS Hooker. I don't give a crap tbh if you hate her or not. You can claim till you're blue in the face you don't, but we all know you do. Because if You hated her attitude, you would hate karches
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 20:10:28 GMT -5
Post by holidayhusker on Apr 22, 2015 20:10:28 GMT -5
Another dipS@#@ willing to throw anyone under the bus to get their way and have their idol on the team. DESTINEE IS NOT MY IDOL. I don't even care for her that much, but for KARCH to dismiss destinee for her attitude, when he himself has thrown the tempter tantrums equivalent to a child who doesn't get their way, simply for losing, he needs to reevaluate himself. Team USA NEEDS Hooker. I don't give a crap tbh if you hate her or not. You can claim till you're blue in the face you don't, but we all know you do. Because if You hated her attitude, you would hate karches Team USA needs Jordan, Foluke, Harmotto and all the others. They are a team that needs to play as a team. They have not managed to enrage Karch? What a mystery? I wonder why? Pull you head out of your backside wawhiney.
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 20:12:34 GMT -5
Post by WahineFan44 on Apr 22, 2015 20:12:34 GMT -5
DESTINEE IS NOT MY IDOL. I don't even care for her that much, but for KARCH to dismiss destinee for her attitude, when he himself has thrown the tempter tantrums equivalent to a child who doesn't get their way, simply for losing, he needs to reevaluate himself. Team USA NEEDS Hooker. I don't give a crap tbh if you hate her or not. You can claim till you're blue in the face you don't, but we all know you do. Because if You hated her attitude, you would hate karches Team USA needs Jordan, Foluke, Harmotto and all the others. They are a team that needs to play as a team. They have not managed to enrage Karch? What a mystery? I wonder why? Pull you head out of your backside wawhiney. Because their personalities does clash with Karch. Its obvious destinee is a diva and abrasive, and that angers Karch because she won't subscribe to his every order. Is Hooker perfect? Absolutely not. But does she deserve to be on the team and is our best point scorer and IMO best player? Yes
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Post by kc8413 on Apr 22, 2015 20:14:04 GMT -5
You are more in denial than Tom Cruise and John Travolta combined. I cannot stand people like you who think superstars deserve special treatment no matter how they behave just so we might win. Its sends a horrible message to our youth yet we have a board full of grovelers like you. What message is Karch sending to people if he doesn't allow anyone (regardless of her superstar status) to learn from a bad mistake and have a second chance? People make mistakes all the time. I can't imagine Hooker making such an egregious error that would completely forbid her from having a second chance? Do you know what I mean? If Karch decides to reach out to Destinee, I don't think letting her play will be an example of him giving a superstar special treatment rather I see it as a mature decision that understands that people make mistakes. Some might make more mistakes than others... How hard is it to see that and give someone a second chance? It's volleyball. It's not like giving her a second chance will cause anyone actual harm. She's not being given a second chance to fly a plane or perform surgery. Just play volleyball. I understand where you're coming from by supporting Karch. He is the coach!! But I think it's also ok to question his decisions. We question authorities all the time. There's no need to call us "grovelers" or say we don't have morals because we want Destinee to have a second chance. If Destinee actually did something soooooo terrible (I can't imagine what can be soooo terrible) to be prohibited from playing with team USA, then ok. I'm fine with that too. Just to clarify when I say Karch should give Hooker another chance, I'm not saying anything negative about him as a person or questioning his coaching skills. I'm just saying its a door that can still be explored, and not completely closed.
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 20:16:41 GMT -5
Post by holidayhusker on Apr 22, 2015 20:16:41 GMT -5
I cannot stand people like you who think superstars deserve special treatment no matter how they behave just so we might win. Its sends a horrible message to our youth yet we have a board full of grovelers like you. What message is Karch sending to people if he doesn't allow anyone (regardless of her superstar status) to learn from a bad mistake and have a second chance? People make mistakes all the time. I can't imagine Hooker making such an egregious error that would completely forbid her from having a second chance? Do you know what I mean? If Karch decides to reach out to Destinee, I don't think letting her play will be an example of him giving a superstar special treatment rather I see it as a mature decision that understands that people make mistakes. Some might make more mistakes than others... How hard is it to see that and give someone a second chance? It's volleyball. It's not like giving her a second chance will cause anyone actual harm. She's not being given a second chance to fly a plane or perform surgery. Just play volleyball. I understand where you're coming from by supporting Karch. He is the coach!! But I think it's also ok to question his decisions. We question authorities all the time. There's no need to call us "grovelers" or say we don't have morals because we want Destinee to have a second chance. If Destinee actually did something soooooo terrible (I can't imagine what can be soooo terrible) to be prohibited from playing with team USA, then ok. I'm fine with that too. Just to clarify when I say Karch should give Hooker another chance, I'm not saying anything negative about him as a person or questioning his coaching skills. Do you are I know the details of what happened? No we don't. The difference between you and I is I have enough respect for the coach for him to make that judgement. Judging by the glowing comments from the other team members I can only deduce that perhaps we don't know the entire story.
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 20:18:16 GMT -5
Post by kc8413 on Apr 22, 2015 20:18:16 GMT -5
DESTINEE IS NOT MY IDOL. I don't even care for her that much, but for KARCH to dismiss destinee for her attitude, when he himself has thrown the tempter tantrums equivalent to a child who doesn't get their way, simply for losing, he needs to reevaluate himself. Team USA NEEDS Hooker. I don't give a crap tbh if you hate her or not. You can claim till you're blue in the face you don't, but we all know you do. Because if You hated her attitude, you would hate karches Team USA needs Jordan, Foluke, Harmotto and all the others. They are a team that needs to play as a team. They have not managed to enrage Karch? What a mystery? I wonder why? Pull you head out of your backside wawhiney. The fact that you said these female players "have not managed to enrage Karch" says a lot about Karch as a person and as a coach.... Was Hugh ever "enraged" by people that he had to cut ppl off the team? Has Lang Ping been "enraged" by her players that she had to cut someone?
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 20:19:08 GMT -5
Post by holidayhusker on Apr 22, 2015 20:19:08 GMT -5
Team USA needs Jordan, Foluke, Harmotto and all the others. They are a team that needs to play as a team. They have not managed to enrage Karch? What a mystery? I wonder why? Pull you head out of your backside wawhiney. Because their personalities does clash with Karch. Its obvious destinee is a diva and abrasive, and that angers Karch because she won't subscribe to his every order. Is Hooker perfect? Absolutely not. But does she deserve to be on the team and is our best point scorer and IMO best player? Yes Know you know what irritates Karch and why they don't get along. You guys are amazing. Clairvoyant in fact.
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 20:19:42 GMT -5
Post by kc8413 on Apr 22, 2015 20:19:42 GMT -5
What message is Karch sending to people if he doesn't allow anyone (regardless of her superstar status) to learn from a bad mistake and have a second chance? People make mistakes all the time. I can't imagine Hooker making such an egregious error that would completely forbid her from having a second chance? Do you know what I mean? If Karch decides to reach out to Destinee, I don't think letting her play will be an example of him giving a superstar special treatment rather I see it as a mature decision that understands that people make mistakes. Some might make more mistakes than others... How hard is it to see that and give someone a second chance? It's volleyball. It's not like giving her a second chance will cause anyone actual harm. She's not being given a second chance to fly a plane or perform surgery. Just play volleyball. I understand where you're coming from by supporting Karch. He is the coach!! But I think it's also ok to question his decisions. We question authorities all the time. There's no need to call us "grovelers" or say we don't have morals because we want Destinee to have a second chance. If Destinee actually did something soooooo terrible (I can't imagine what can be soooo terrible) to be prohibited from playing with team USA, then ok. I'm fine with that too. Just to clarify when I say Karch should give Hooker another chance, I'm not saying anything negative about him as a person or questioning his coaching skills. Do you are I know the details of what happened? No we don't. The difference between you and I is I have enough respect for the coach for him to make that judgement. Judging by the glowing comments from the other team members I can only deduce that perhaps we don't know the entire story. Yea, in general, I think Karch is a good coach. A lot of the current players think so too. I wonder if we will ever know the entire story.
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