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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 20:21:39 GMT -5
Post by holidayhusker on Apr 22, 2015 20:21:39 GMT -5
Team USA needs Jordan, Foluke, Harmotto and all the others. They are a team that needs to play as a team. They have not managed to enrage Karch? What a mystery? I wonder why? Pull you head out of your backside wawhiney. The fact that you said these female players "have not managed to enrage Karch" says a lot about Karch as a person and as a coach.... Was Hugh ever "enraged" by people that he had to cut ppl off the team? Has Lang Ping been "enraged" by her players that she had to cut someone? 'They are not female? Now we have another problem all together.
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 20:23:17 GMT -5
Post by holidayhusker on Apr 22, 2015 20:23:17 GMT -5
Do you are I know the details of what happened? No we don't. The difference between you and I is I have enough respect for the coach for him to make that judgement. Judging by the glowing comments from the other team members I can only deduce that perhaps we don't know the entire story. Yea, in general, I think Karch is a good coach. A lot of the current players think so too. I wonder if we will ever know the entire story. No...they probably won't know the whole story and neither will you on this board. The fact that no players have defended her should say something.
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Post by USAFAN on Apr 22, 2015 20:23:19 GMT -5
As polarizing as she may seem at the public level and her social media snafus Hooker is the best OPP player the USANT has seen in the last 20 years and quite arguably in the history of the program. She was, IMO, the reason the USANT rose to the top last quadrennial. Her progression and adaptation to the OPP position directly correlated with the team's success. Beyond the gold medal match, which is all anyone seems to recall, she was the USANT's most prolific scorer and dominant. She's won titles in cups and championships in Korea, Brazil, Puerto Rico and Russia. She's probably done better than most if not all of the current USANT besides Jordan Larson. On paper, she undoubtedly merits inclusion in the NT. All of this talk about chemistry and "team culture" is over exaggerated. These women spend far more time on their professional teams than they do in the USANT during the summers they train together. Whatever "culture" that people are referencing is fleeting and can easily be curated with top players in the gym. The USA basketball teams spend virtually zero time training as a unit and are able to come together and win golds consistently without all of the subjective "chemistry" and "team culture" talk that people constantly reference with the USA volleyball team. They proved they don't "need" her by winning the WCH, but IMO that team looked nowhere near the level of the USANT from late 2010-12 and their performance throughout the tournament was not convincing. While they will certainly contend and potentially could win the gold, it's unfortunate that the best players that the country has to offer will not be on the floor. So....Karch should grovel to have the great Destinee Hooker on the team? What exactly should we do? I don't think he needs to grovel. It's called conflict resolution. I don't see any reason a conversation or two wouldn't be able to remedy this. This thread is also entirely absent of reference to the previous quad. The team, with virtually the entire same roster give or take a few players, was able to succeed with Destinee and McCutcheon was able to thrive. Why isn't Karch able to do the same? Destinee has remained the same and if anything has toned it down. Taste is subjective and I get that people are turned off by her personality but nothing Destinee has done is egregious. From an unbiased perspective, the ego seems to be coming far more from the side of Karch than Destinee.
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 20:26:57 GMT -5
Post by holidayhusker on Apr 22, 2015 20:26:57 GMT -5
So....Karch should grovel to have the great Destinee Hooker on the team? What exactly should we do? I don't think he needs to grovel. It's called conflict resolution. I don't see any reason a conversation or two wouldn't be able to remedy this. This thread is also entirely absent of reference to the previous quad. The team, with virtually the entire same roster give or take a few players, was able to succeed with Destinee and McCutcheon was able to thrive. Why isn't Karch able to do the same? Destinee has remained the same and if anything has toned it down. Taste is subjective and I get that people are turned off by her personality but nothing Destinee has done is egregious. From an unbiased perspective, the ego seems to be coming far more from the side of Karch than Destinee. You are about as unbiased as Ernie Chambers at a tractor pull.
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 20:28:16 GMT -5
Post by kc8413 on Apr 22, 2015 20:28:16 GMT -5
The fact that you said these female players "have not managed to enrage Karch" says a lot about Karch as a person and as a coach.... Was Hugh ever "enraged" by people that he had to cut ppl off the team? Has Lang Ping been "enraged" by her players that she had to cut someone? 'They are not female? Now we have another problem all together. Sorry if my statements were confusing. The female part wasn't the emphasis. It was the fact that you said these players haven't managed to "enrage" Karch was what really confused me. I had no idea players had to be on high alert and to be careful of not "enraging" a coach.
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 20:32:57 GMT -5
Post by WahineFan44 on Apr 22, 2015 20:32:57 GMT -5
I don't think he needs to grovel. It's called conflict resolution. I don't see any reason a conversation or two wouldn't be able to remedy this. This thread is also entirely absent of reference to the previous quad. The team, with virtually the entire same roster give or take a few players, was able to succeed with Destinee and McCutcheon was able to thrive. Why isn't Karch able to do the same? Destinee has remained the same and if anything has toned it down. Taste is subjective and I get that people are turned off by her personality but nothing Destinee has done is egregious. From an unbiased perspective, the ego seems to be coming far more from the side of Karch than Destinee. You are about as unbiased as Ernie Chambers at a tractor pull. Yet you're the most biased in this thread
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Post by truthandjustice on Apr 22, 2015 20:40:59 GMT -5
I cannot stand people like you who think superstars deserve special treatment no matter how they behave just so we might win. Its sends a horrible message to our youth yet we have a board full of grovelers like you. BUT KARCH BEHAVED EVEN WORSE. And when presented with video evidence of this ( including him tearing down the freaking net), you refused to acknowledge it. And if there's any groveler here, it's you - kneeling before St. Karch. It has nothing to do with ripping nets or acting the fool on the court. It has everything to do with how she interacts with her teammates and the coaching staff and her delusion she is above the rules set forth. She would come back in a blink of an eye if Karch called. Fact.
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 20:42:44 GMT -5
Post by holidayhusker on Apr 22, 2015 20:42:44 GMT -5
You are about as unbiased as Ernie Chambers at a tractor pull. Whoa, totally uncalled for. Local politics? GTFO Holiday. LOL....I didn't think anyone would get that one.
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 20:43:29 GMT -5
Post by holidayhusker on Apr 22, 2015 20:43:29 GMT -5
You are about as unbiased as Ernie Chambers at a tractor pull. Disclaimer: HolidayHusker's statements are in no way representative of all Nebraska fans' political views. I don't agree.....most think Ernie is certifiable.
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 20:49:01 GMT -5
Post by holidayhusker on Apr 22, 2015 20:49:01 GMT -5
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 20:59:14 GMT -5
Post by gnu2vball on Apr 22, 2015 20:59:14 GMT -5
So, his status is entirely independent of being a legislator in the Unicameral? (Nebraska still has a unicameral legislature, right?)
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 21:07:05 GMT -5
Post by kokyu on Apr 22, 2015 21:07:05 GMT -5
BUT KARCH BEHAVED EVEN WORSE. And when presented with video evidence of this ( including him tearing down the freaking net), you refused to acknowledge it. And if there's any groveler here, it's you - kneeling before St. Karch. It has nothing to do with ripping nets or acting the fool on the court. It has everything to do with how she interacts with her teammates and the coaching staff and her delusion she is above the rules set forth. She would come back in a blink of an eye if Karch called. Fact. You, husker, and Karch a bunch of crybabies, panties all twisted. Best we can hope for is a new coach after Rio so Hooker can come back. I feel a new poll coming up.
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Post by kokyu on Apr 22, 2015 21:09:20 GMT -5
Another PROVEN karch tantrum. I have NEVER EVER seen Hooker act like that. Diva? Yes. Acting like a baby? No Oops didn't realize this was posted. But before this, I didn't know Karch was like that, now knowing he's like that, I am 10000 percent team destinee. Anyone else find his partner's bandwagon hilarious? If you didn't see Karch having a meltdown you'd think his partner was pulling a Will Ferrell act, almost looks like him too.
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 21:14:40 GMT -5
Post by kokyu on Apr 22, 2015 21:14:40 GMT -5
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Hooker
Apr 22, 2015 21:38:43 GMT -5
Post by vbprisoner on Apr 22, 2015 21:38:43 GMT -5
This thread has already surpassed the humor level of the "Where will Holman Land" thread!
NDNG! No Destinee No Gold
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