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Post by InTheKnow on May 4, 2015 22:57:23 GMT -5
Ankle injuries are very common in VB. interested in what requirements you have for your teams.
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Post by volleyball6 on May 4, 2015 23:03:16 GMT -5
You should train your ankle to get stronger without a brace first. If you get injured then an ankle brace is necessary.
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Post by rainbowbadger on May 5, 2015 5:40:05 GMT -5
Oh boy. Here we go again.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 8:29:04 GMT -5
Research says ankle supports or taping do nothing but HELP. They do not cause other injuries. They do not weaken the joint.
And what they primarily do is lessen the severity of the injury when the inevitable occurs.
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Post by rainbowbadger on May 5, 2015 8:40:56 GMT -5
I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the coaches choosing "No requirements" probably encourage their players to do what works for them, in consultation with a doctor or trainer, if applicable.
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Post by s0uthie on May 5, 2015 10:16:52 GMT -5
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Post by oshkoshdadmjs on May 5, 2015 12:45:59 GMT -5
Only requirement: no ankle or knee high socks.
(but seriously, I 100% agree with Ruff #teamactiveankle)
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Post by joc on May 5, 2015 13:02:37 GMT -5
We have lost a starter to a season ending ankle injury each of the last three seasons. You want to play front row for us, you are required to have braces of some kind (active ankle or lace up).
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 16:02:21 GMT -5
Research says ankle supports or taping do nothing but HELP. They do not cause other injuries. They do not weaken the joint. And what they primarily do is lessen the severity of the injury when the inevitable occurs. "Nothing" isn't completely true, but there is a lot of research supporting the use of bracing/taping to prevent injuries at the ankle joint. I've seen several ankles saved first-hand. There are also a lot of case studies, and less research, about the use of bracing/taping leading to more severe injuries. I've seen several ankles, knees, and tibias damaged first-hand. I do think that, in general, our sport is absolutely terrible when it comes to the addition or inclusion of ankle mobility, ankle strengthening, and stretching/ROM exercises into normal strength/conditioning programs, and I believe that the answer to stronger ankles is not to layer them with tape and plastic, but to improve the integrity of the structures supporting the joint. The ankle is the only joint I can think of where taping/bracing is used so often BEFORE injuries even occur. Why don't we put knee braces on athletes to prevent ACL, meniscus, or MCL tears? Interesting to think about. For the most part, I think that the ankle brace companies have been exceptionally successful in marketing their products and convincing people of their success. I also think that proprioceptive training, even a little, could go a long way to prevent or lessen this very common injury. |
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Post by s0uthie on May 5, 2015 16:12:08 GMT -5
Research says ankle supports or taping do nothing but HELP. They do not cause other injuries. They do not weaken the joint. And what they primarily do is lessen the severity of the injury when the inevitable occurs. I've seen several ankles saved first-hand. There are also a lot of case studies, and less research, about the use of bracing/taping leading to more severe injuries. I've seen several ankles, knees, and tibias damaged first-hand. Anecdotes have little value. Can you post one of the "lots" of studies for us? I'm an expert now, remember? |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 16:37:41 GMT -5
I'm quoting a D1 trainer here, btw. I have no expertise here.
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Post by InTheKnow on May 5, 2015 19:23:41 GMT -5
Research says ankle supports or taping do nothing but HELP. They do not cause other injuries. They do not weaken the joint. And what they primarily do is lessen the severity of the injury when the inevitable occurs. I agree 100% It happens often in VB. A rigid brace helps lessen the injury. I've seen kids return in 2 days with it and 2 weeks without it. Not sure why any coach whose salary is on the line wouldn't require it. I know some kids say it isn't comfortable but after a couple weeks of training in them they stop noticing them. |
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Post by donneyp on May 5, 2015 20:32:01 GMT -5
I have active ankles and ASO braces available to all of our players if they want them. Of 15 players I think we had 3 in AAs, 1 wore the ASOs and maybe 6-8 were getting their ankles taped regularly.
When we just had a student trainer I think the AAs were more common, but for about 3 years now we have a certified trainer and two student trainers (a Jr and a Sr in the AT program) who are with us every day. When you know your trainers and they know how you like your tape, that made that a more popular and more consistent option for us.
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Post by hennosy on May 7, 2015 14:31:09 GMT -5
I walked in 5 minutes after a girl broke her leg just above her active ankle (so I can't claim I actually saw it). She was out for a year. This was 5 years ago. I recently talked to her parents, she still has problems. No way a soft ankle support would have broken her leg right there. Without the brace, would the injury have been worse? I don't know. Did the active ankle prevent many other injuries at different times? I don't know.
I know what I saw. The brace cause this injury. Do I require support (hard or soft)? no. Do I work hard to strengthen ankles in the off season without support? Definitely. Does our team have many ankle injuries? A couple mild sprains every year.
It's all I know.
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Post by SuperSpike on May 8, 2015 0:50:25 GMT -5
Teach blocking/attacking footwork/movements instead. Good/high level players don't uses active ankles.
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