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Post by firedup on Jun 17, 2015 14:29:14 GMT -5
The Ivy League offers no athletic scholarships. Plain and simple.
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Post by 642fiddi on Jun 17, 2015 18:07:22 GMT -5
The Ivy League offers no athletic scholarships. Plain and simple. I thought the audience was sophisticated enough to not have to mention the obvious.
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Post by firedup on Jun 17, 2015 18:42:03 GMT -5
The Ivy League offers no athletic scholarships. Plain and simple. I thought the audience was sophisticated enough to not have to mention the obvious. First off, the audience isn't as sophisticated as you believe it to be. Second, if you assume the audience to be so sophisticated, there'd be no point in your having to educate everyone that the coach is the most important factor in selecting the place to play volleyball, hang out with teammates and sometimes go to class.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 19:30:14 GMT -5
The Ivy League offers no athletic scholarships. Plain and simple. Not so plain nor so simple. Most ivy league schools offer "full rides" based on the parents' income, just like stanford does (except three of the ivies are more generous). That is just the school. The student athlete may very well apply for and win one of the many fellowships that are available.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 20:00:38 GMT -5
I thought the audience was sophisticated enough to not have to mention the obvious. First off, the audience isn't as sophisticated as you believe it to be. Second, if you assume the audience to be so sophisticated, there'd be no point in your having to educate everyone that the coach is the most important factor in selecting the place to play volleyball, hang out with teammates and sometimes go to class. This is not alabama football. The vast majority of these women graduate so they place some value on their degrees. I agree many of them make rash choices based on liking the coach/campus/chance of a FF but many of them have families that are also educated and can help them figure out the difference between a degree from Notre Dame / Stanford / Duke vs. a lower ranked (academically) school. I am sure Stanford would still sign a lot of top recruits if there was a coaching change.
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Post by bballnut90 on Jun 17, 2015 21:11:07 GMT -5
Mick should just ditch the 6-2 offense cos he simply do not have the personnel to run it. He is trying to replicate what he did in 2002 and 2003 but he did not have the Burdine or Ross type player on the roster. Ross and Burdine are terminators who are great passers. The current team still have a lot of talent. I can see them finishing in the top 10 by year end. A lineup with Bricio and Ruddins at the outside, Ogoms and Dunn in the middle, Abercombie at opposite, Johnson setting and Taylor W at libero can beat many teams. Agree here. I think Abercrombie is going to be a LOT better than she showed in limited action last year. A lefty with a big shoulder and can hit a variety of angles. Play her RS and she can terminate if she gets a quality set. A 6-2 just doesn't strike me as a good option for USC. Utilize Abercrombie's serve and Dunn on the slide, get more consistency with one setter. Johnson is also 6-0 tall so they will not be lacking for size with a front row of Abercrombie, Dunn, Bricio, Ruddins, Ogoms and Johnson.
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Post by 642fiddi on Jun 18, 2015 10:45:45 GMT -5
I thought the audience was sophisticated enough to not have to mention the obvious. First off, the audience isn't as sophisticated as you believe it to be. Second, if you assume the audience to be so sophisticated, there'd be no point in your having to educate everyone that the coach is the most important factor in selecting the place to play volleyball, hang out with teammates and sometimes go to class. Again, if you look at the original post, I never stated "that the coach is the most important factor in selecting the place to play volleyball". I am in no position to educate anyone, although I am in a position to have an educated opinion. Inventing statements to support your rather overly passionate argument is unbecoming, and I think the VT audience might argue their level of sophistication.
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Post by 642fiddi on Jun 18, 2015 10:47:28 GMT -5
First off, the audience isn't as sophisticated as you believe it to be. Second, if you assume the audience to be so sophisticated, there'd be no point in your having to educate everyone that the coach is the most important factor in selecting the place to play volleyball, hang out with teammates and sometimes go to class. This is not alabama football. The vast majority of these women graduate so they place some value on their degrees. I agree many of them make rash choices based on liking the coach/campus/chance of a FF but many of them have families that are also educated and can help them figure out the difference between a degree from Notre Dame / Stanford / Duke vs. a lower ranked (academically) school. I am sure Stanford would still sign a lot of top recruits if there was a coaching change. I concur.
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Post by firedup on Jun 18, 2015 11:45:19 GMT -5
First off, the audience isn't as sophisticated as you believe it to be. Second, if you assume the audience to be so sophisticated, there'd be no point in your having to educate everyone that the coach is the most important factor in selecting the place to play volleyball, hang out with teammates and sometimes go to class. Again, if you look at the original post, I never stated "that the coach is the most important factor in selecting the place to play volleyball". I am in no position to educate anyone, although I am in a position to have an educated opinion. Inventing statements to support your rather overly passionate argument is unbecoming, and I think the VT audience might argue their level of sophistication. Let's get to the bottom line fiddi, as we will continue to agree to disagree. I genuinely respect your position. Whether it's at USC with Coach Haley, PSU with Coach Rose or any other school, it is my opinion that those individuals who place too much weight behind other factors (coach, facilities, teammates, number of banners, etc.) are missing the point. If it sounds like I'm on a soapbox, then guilty as charged. Their education is the single most important factor. Everything else is a compliment. You might say that this is a given and that everyone already knows this. I think that all of us say this and believe it but that in reality, the other factors get weighed heavily, maybe too heavily, when it comes to decision time. As for inventing statements, that wasn't my intention at all and I don't think I incorrectly quoted you, but apologize if I did. Pick the School. Not the Coach.
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Post by 642fiddi on Jun 18, 2015 17:04:52 GMT -5
Again, if you look at the original post, I never stated "that the coach is the most important factor in selecting the place to play volleyball". I am in no position to educate anyone, although I am in a position to have an educated opinion. Inventing statements to support your rather overly passionate argument is unbecoming, and I think the VT audience might argue their level of sophistication. Let's get to the bottom line fiddi, as we will continue to agree to disagree. I genuinely respect your position. Whether it's at USC with Coach Haley, PSU with Coach Rose or any other school, it is my opinion that those individuals who place too much weight behind other factors (coach, facilities, teammates, number of banners, etc.) are missing the point. If it sounds like I'm on a soapbox, then guilty as charged. Their education is the single most important factor. Everything else is a compliment. You might say that this is a given and that everyone already knows this. I think that all of us say this and believe it but that in reality, the other factors get weighed heavily, maybe too heavily, when it comes to decision time. As for inventing statements, that wasn't my intention at all and I don't think I incorrectly quoted you, but apologize if I did. Pick the School. Not the Coach. My position is a little less black and white. Weigh all the variables and make an informed decision.
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Post by bigfanofbigfan on Jun 23, 2015 10:12:30 GMT -5
USC 2015 Our of Conference Schedule ( all time PST)
Women of Troy Baden @ Galen Center
8/28 vs North Carolina @ 8pm (tv) 8/29 vs Chicago State @ 10am vs BYU @ 8pm (tv)
Northern Iowa Tournament @ Cedar Falls, Iowa
9/4 vs Creighton @ 2.30pm 9/5 vs Kentucky @ 8am vs Northen Iowa @ 5.30pm
USC Classic @ Galen Center
9/10 vs Utah State @ 10am vs Pepperdine @ 8pm (tv) 9/11 vs Idaho State @ 10am vs New Mexico @ 8pm (tv)
Oklahoma Nike Invitational @ Norman, Oklahoma
09/17 vs Oklahoma @6pm 09/18 vs Maryland @11am
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Post by bigfanofbigfan on Jun 23, 2015 10:16:04 GMT -5
I think USC could realistically enter the conference portion with an 8-4 records
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Post by uscyaaa on Jun 23, 2015 12:19:19 GMT -5
Give Mick credit, at least he is willing to travel in the preseason to various tournaments especially several time zones away.
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 23, 2015 22:53:12 GMT -5
I think USC could realistically enter the conference portion with an 8-4 records Realistically 8-4?.... who do you see USC losing to on that schedule?
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Post by vbprisoner on Jun 23, 2015 22:58:40 GMT -5
I think USC could realistically enter the conference portion with an 8-4 records Realistically 8-4?.... who do you see USC losing to on that schedule? Only team I see as a loss would be UNC, and that may be a toss up. Now they could go 8-4, but then I think they would be in big trouble in PAC.
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