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Post by haze on Aug 31, 2015 13:33:52 GMT -5
I would have thought for the struggles they have had, and not being able to finish the 3 game matches they would want to be playing as much as they could to figure that out. Otherwise yea I would see no point in playing that.
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Post by tinman2 on Aug 31, 2015 14:11:57 GMT -5
The bigger question is why aren't Nick/Phil playing this event? Why play AVP when they partnered to make a run at the Olympics? Wouldn't Rio give them points to qualify and great experience playing at the venue where the Olympics will be held?
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Post by JB Southpaw on Aug 31, 2015 14:43:48 GMT -5
The bigger question is why aren't Nick/Phil playing this event? Why play AVP when they partnered to make a run at the Olympics? Wouldn't Rio give them points to qualify and great experience playing at the venue where the Olympics will be held? I'd agree with this question, I worry even if they can pass Bourne/Hyden, will they be shot the time the Olympics come around?? I guess they won't be playing any AVPs till after Rio.....
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Aug 31, 2015 15:07:16 GMT -5
The bigger question is why aren't Nick/Phil playing this event? Why play AVP when they partnered to make a run at the Olympics? Wouldn't Rio give them points to qualify and great experience playing at the venue where the Olympics will be held? The AVP might be making it worth their while to stay home, particularly since Rio is only an Open (reduced prize money and points). There is also a lot of player loyalty towards the local promoter in Cincy. And after Rio, there are still six more Opens on the 2015 calendar. They're registered for the Sochi Open, and will likely play at least one or two others, like Puerto Vallarta.
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Post by klazk on Aug 31, 2015 15:35:50 GMT -5
They are registered for Xiamen already, too.
I think the players have to have been given some indication of what the 2016 schedule is going to look like or there is no way they would have skipped.
The only other thing I can think of is that Rio is using the Olympic format I believe (i.e. only 24 teams instead of 32). Don't know why it would make a difference, but maybe it does for some reason.
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Post by tinman2 on Aug 31, 2015 17:52:57 GMT -5
I figured the AVP "enticed" Phil to attend since they promoted him on NBC this weekend as returning for Cincy. Without Kerri, that makes sense, but how many viewers saw that and thought, "Gotta watch. Phil will be back."? I also thought about the promoter and how much the players like how they are treated in Cincy. Guess they figure there will be enough additional FIVB tournaments, but I think the experience in Rio would be invaluable.
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Post by vb1987 on Aug 31, 2015 18:39:55 GMT -5
The bigger question is why aren't Nick/Phil playing this event? Why play AVP when they partnered to make a run at the Olympics? Wouldn't Rio give them points to qualify and great experience playing at the venue where the Olympics will be held? Where did you get your information that they partnered to try to make a run at the Olympics? Or is this just an assumption? I think it is a common misconception (especially with a lot of people on this forum) that these top teams make all of their decisions based on the Olympics.
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Post by klazk on Aug 31, 2015 19:51:09 GMT -5
The bigger question is why aren't Nick/Phil playing this event? Why play AVP when they partnered to make a run at the Olympics? Wouldn't Rio give them points to qualify and great experience playing at the venue where the Olympics will be held? Where did you get your information that they partnered to try to make a run at the Olympics? Or is this just an assumption? I think it is a common misconception (especially with a lot of people on this forum) that these top teams make all of their decisions based on the Olympics. To be fair, a lot of the players (when they talk to media at least) tend to put the Olympics as a high priority. Teams also have a history in 2007-2008 and 2011-2012 (maybe even before that) of skipping AVP events for Olympic qualifying FIVB events. But I suppose you could be correct. Maybe Phil and Nick don't care about the Olympics. Anything is possible. Of course, Dalhausser has posted about his Olympic plans: http://instagram.com/p/6BCX-LiH0F And then there is this article that states it is a primary goal of Dalhausser's. There is no direct quote, so I guess the journalist could be making that up, but why would you? The bigger story would be if they weren't shooting for the Olympics. www.dailynews.com/sports/20150813/dalhausser-lucena-rekindle-beach-volleyball-partnership-for-shot-at-rio-olympicsEven taking the pride of an Olympic medal out of the equation, the exposure from an endorsement standpoint for a fringe sport like beach volleyball is exponentially higher at the Olympics than anywhere else they could get. So it makes financial sense, too.
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Post by donnyb on Aug 31, 2015 20:44:31 GMT -5
With 5 more opens maybe they play the other ones because all the good Brazil teams will be in rio? Less likely to win it maybe.
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Post by vb1987 on Aug 31, 2015 23:04:28 GMT -5
Well played Klazk, but also note I didnt specifically say they didnt care, I was posing the question about them and in general saying my opinion on the Olympics. It wouldnt have been the first time a team didnt prioritize the Olympics. There were times when Hyden and Scott probably could have made an Olympic run but didnt bother.
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Post by guest2 on Sept 1, 2015 1:22:43 GMT -5
I hate how much the Olympics get prioritized, but for Phil that actually makes sense. He has a chance to actually win a gold medal, which brings with it substantial financial rewards. For teams like Hyden/Bourne the all out for 13th in Rio approach is dumb but for Phil, who has a solid shot at a gold medal (probably a 15% chance) its a reasonable decision
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 21:19:32 GMT -5
Just another inquiry regarding Kerri & Aprils March to Rio? Again, I don't pretend to have the amount of knowledge that you others do.....but why wouldn't they play out their pool, maybe get a 7th or 5th, hop on a plane to Russia and knock off another tourney from this year and only need 4 more next year instead of having to bust a$$ and hope there is enough tourneys before June 12th or whatever the date is? Just an innocent observation and just curious how they came to the conclusion that Roi would be Kerri's last tourney of the year? Would one week and one more tourney make that big of difference on whether they qualify or not?
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Sept 2, 2015 21:57:53 GMT -5
Just another inquiry regarding Kerri & Aprils March to Rio? Again, I don't pretend to have the amount of knowledge that you others do.....but why wouldn't they play out their pool, maybe get a 7th or 5th, hop on a plane to Russia and knock off another tourney from this year and only need 4 more next year instead of having to bust a$$ and hope there is enough tourneys before June 12th or whatever the date is? Just an innocent observation and just curious how they came to the conclusion that Roi would be Kerri's last tourney of the year? Would one week and one more tourney make that big of difference on whether they qualify or not? Kerri's arm is hanging on by a thread right now, almost literally. They were chancing it just playing the last two FIVB events. She's going to have surgery soon, and that should hopefully give her enough recovery time to come back at full strength by the 1st FIVB event . I don't think she felt like she could delay the surgery any longer without risking a less than full recovery by March.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 22:09:09 GMT -5
Thanks Geddy.....Guess I didn't realize surgery was the main goal at this point. Everything I've been reading her quoting is they are not sure if it was going to require surgery or just rehab....thanks for the clarification....
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Sept 3, 2015 10:48:18 GMT -5
Thanks Geddy.....Guess I didn't realize surgery was the main goal at this point. Everything I've been reading her quoting is they are not sure if it was going to require surgery or just rehab....thanks for the clarification.... My understanding is that her shoulder needs to be surgically repaired and stabilized. I hadn't heard that rest/physical therapy was another option on the table, but it's not like I'm on Walsh's medical team, so we shall see. Either way, the idea is to shut her down near term in order to the maximum amount of R&R time before making a hard push for Rio.
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