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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 19, 2015 15:12:21 GMT -5
NOTE: All references to rankings in this post are based on pablo, not AVCA!Standings: (1) USC 10-0 (5) UCLA 8-2 (2) Washington 8-2 (12) Stanford 7-3 (11) ASU 6-4 (41) Colorado 5-5 (16) Arizona 4-6 (33) Oregon 4-6 (48) WSU 3-7 (105) Cal 2-8 (101) OSU 2-8 (86) Utah 1-9 (Oct 19 pablo rankings) ================== Expected conference records based on Oct 19 pablo and actual conference results as of Oct 18: USC 19-1 .948 Washington 17-3 .869 UCLA 15-5 .757 Stanford 13-7 .648 ASU 12-8 .589 Arizona 10-10 .523 Oregon 9-11 .432 Colorado 9-11 .428 WSU 7-13 .331 OSU 4-16 .187 Utah 3-17 .145 Cal 3-17 .144 Read more: volleytalk.net/thread/59987/pac-12-weekly-posts================== This week's matches (Pacific times) Wed (Marty McFly Day):
7:30pm Washington@Stanford
Fri:
6pm Utah@ASU, UCLA@Oregon, Washington@Cal
7pm WSU@Stanford
8pm Colorado@Arizona, USC@OSU
Sat:
7pm Colorado@ASU
Sun:
11am Utah@Arizona, WSU@Cal
noon UCLA@OSU
1pm USC@Oregon================== Pablo match of the week: WSU 71% @ Cal 29% -- Cal wins in 3 Previous: Week 4: Oregon 42% @ WSU 58% -- Oregon wins in 4 Week 3: OSU 35% @ Cal 65% -- OSU wins in 3 Week 2: Stanford 50% @ Arizona 50% -- Stanford wins in 5 Week 1: USC 51% @ Stanford 49% -- USC wins in 5 ================== Week 6 schedule: Arizona@BayArea, Oregon@Mountains, LA@Washington
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 19, 2015 15:12:31 GMT -5
I will do the schedules later.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 19, 2015 15:14:13 GMT -5
Pablo sure things (>98%):
USC over OSU on the road
UW over Cal on the road
UCLA over OSU on the road
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 20, 2015 8:19:37 GMT -5
Schedules now added
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Post by Sbilo on Oct 22, 2015 0:11:14 GMT -5
Stanford defeats UW in 5. Cheers!
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Post by trojansc on Oct 24, 2015 0:22:42 GMT -5
USC 9-0
WASH 8-2
UCLA 7-2
STAN 7-3
COLO 5-4
AZST 5-4
OREG 4-5
ARIZ 3-6
WZZU 3-6
ORST 2-7
CAL 1-8
UTAH 1-8
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Post by tomclen on Oct 24, 2015 8:52:45 GMT -5
Some less than stellar attendance numbers Friday night.
STANFORD (hosting WSU) 2,110
OREGON (hosting UCLA) 1,724
ASU (hosting Utah) 1,722
OSU (hosting USC) 1,437
UA (hosting Col.) 1,328
CAL (hosting UW) 861
861 at Cal? 6p start in the Bay Area on a Friday night has to be a traffic nightmare. Plus the game is on TV. But, still, 861? And it looked like 100 of those were UW fans, including Bailey Tanner's parents and dog!
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 24, 2015 10:00:59 GMT -5
Does the dog count?
I am flying home today, so I hope to help increase the numbers at the USC and UCLA matches next week.
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Post by volleylearner on Oct 24, 2015 10:20:46 GMT -5
Some less than stellar attendance numbers Friday night. CAL (hosting UW) 861
861 at Cal? 6p start in the Bay Area on a Friday night has to be a traffic nightmare. Plus the game is on TV. But, still, 861? And it looked like 100 of those were UW fans, including Bailey Tanner's parents and dog! You make it sound like this is unusual or unexpected. Last year UW at Cal was at 8pm on a Friday night and drew 1,047. Two weeks ago Oregon at Cal on a Friday night at 8pm drew 1,057. The 6pm start and/or poor record likely accounts for the 150 dropoff, but that's not a big difference. Cal's largest home attendance last year was 1,759 the Friday after Thanksgiving against Stanford. It is a fair question why Cal doesn't draw more of a crowd in general but last night was not an anomaly. |
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Post by hammer on Oct 24, 2015 10:35:31 GMT -5
Some less than stellar attendance numbers Friday night. CAL (hosting UW) 861
861 at Cal? 6p start in the Bay Area on a Friday night has to be a traffic nightmare. Plus the game is on TV. But, still, 861? And it looked like 100 of those were UW fans, including Bailey Tanner's parents and dog! You make it sound like this is unusual or unexpected. Last year UW at Cal was at 8pm on a Friday night and drew 1,047. Two weeks ago Oregon at Cal on a Friday night at 8pm drew 1,057. The 6pm start and/or poor record likely accounts for the 150 dropoff, but that's not a big difference. Cal's largest home attendance last year was 1,759 the Friday after Thanksgiving against Stanford. It is a fair question why Cal doesn't draw more of a crowd in general but last night was not an anomaly. 101/80 in San Francisco heading to the Bay Bridge for a 6,7,8 pm start on a Friday night @ Berkeley requires a very patient individual. In Sept. it took me 2.5 hours to drive to Haas from Palo Alto. I left @ 4 for 7pm start. |
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Post by tomclen on Oct 24, 2015 10:50:35 GMT -5
This isn't just a Cal issue.
It's the half-way point of a very exciting and interesting Pac-12 race, and all 12 teams played on Friday night. Yet, only one school, Stanford, managed to draw at least 2,000 fans.
The Pac-12 has a very serious volleyball attendance problem. The Pac-12 network doesn't seem to be helping matters, with so many games on TV and match times/days spread out from Wednesday through Sunday. I still maintain that playing volleyball on Sunday, head-to-head with the NFL juggernaut is is an attendance/marketing death wish.
A conference that some would argue is the strongest top-to-bottom or, at worst, is the second strongest volleyball conference in the country, should not be playing in front of a smattering of hardcore fans.
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Post by volleylearner on Oct 24, 2015 11:29:02 GMT -5
The Pac-12 has a very serious volleyball attendance problem. [...] A conference that some would argue is the strongest top-to-bottom or, at worst, is the second strongest volleyball conference in the country, should not be playing in front of a smattering of hardcore fans. You are welcome to this opinion, but there is no evidence to support that Pac-12 volleyball attendance is a "serious problem." Do you think Pac-12 WVB teams will become less competitive without more fans in the seats? I don't see a case for that position. I think you should look at relative rather than absolute numbers. I was amazed that Stanford drew over 2,000 for WSU last night. And last year's draw of almost 1,900 for WSU (also on a Friday night) seemed high to me compared to other years. I remember not long ago when the stands were pretty empty for WSU matches. |
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Post by redbeard2008 on Oct 24, 2015 11:37:36 GMT -5
Fans are more likely to follow winning teams. For two of those teams, USC and UCLA, getting over 1,000 fans to attend is a challenge, on any night.
Washington is doing fairly well, drawing in the 2k's and 3k's, even without the draw of Vansant. From cheers at the intro of starters, the bigger draw for UW this year is Strickland. With six seniors graduating, however, it could be a challenge keeping the wins and the fans coming.
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Post by volleylearner on Oct 24, 2015 12:12:16 GMT -5
Fans are more likely to follow winning teams. For two of those teams, USC and UCLA, getting over 1,000 fans to attend is a challenge, on any night. Washington is doing fairly well, drawing in the 2k's and 3k's, even without the draw of Vansant. From cheers at the intro of starters, the bigger draw for UW this year is Strickland. With six seniors graduating, however, it could be a challenge keeping the wins and the fans coming. Recent home attendance is not consistent with your "getting over 1,000 fans is a challenge" description, certainly not for USC. USC: WSU (1,286), Wash (2,069), ASU (2,217), Ariz (1,742) UCLA: Wash (1,641), WSU (757), Ariz (834), ASU (1,385) |
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Post by bolleyvol on Oct 24, 2015 12:13:37 GMT -5
Mad dogs and, perhaps, Englishmen drive to Berkeley. Bart service is excellent, and there are buses from pretty much anywhere. Berkeley had a few years of glory there, with Angie Pessey, Hana Cutura, Tara Murrey, Carly Lloyd etc., and the attendance was higher for a few years, but most of them were more people who came to see a Cal team win than hardcore volleyball fans. The teams of recent years have not been a help with drawing marginal attendees.
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