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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 25, 2015 23:30:12 GMT -5
Do you know, statistically speaking, WA has the best chances to win the National Championship this year. They are tops in almost all stat categories. Well, Pablo agrees with you. The stats have tightened up from earlier in the season, largely from UW playing first an easy pre-conference and then in a tough conference (trying to weed out the pretenders): Hitting Percentage: 1. Florida .320 2. Kansas .314 (tie) Texas .314 4. Washington .313 6. Penn State .293 7. USC .291 Opp. Hitting Percentage: 2. Colorado State .130 5. Hawaii .141 8. Washington .149 9. Penn State .151 15. USC .155 17. BYU .159 Kills/Set: 2. Kansas 15.21 3. USC 14.77 10. Washington 14.54 13. Florida 14.39 17. Nebraska 14.30 23. Wisconsin 14.23 Assists/Set: 2. Kansas 14.25 5. USC 13.90 10. Washington 13.63 12. Wisconsin 13.55 17. UCLA 13.43 20. Minnesota 13.35 Blocks/Set: 1. Hawaii 3.30 2. Penn State 3.18 5. Washington 3.02 14. Stanford 2.89 15. BYU 2.89 16. Minnesota 2.86 18. Wisconsin 2.79 19. Florida 2.78 Aces/Set: 37. USC 1.54 43. Hawaii 1.51 66. Washington 1.43 89. Kansas 1.37 105. BYU 1.32 Digs/Set: 46. USC 16.52 96. Nebraska 15.67 110. Wisconsin 15.53 112. Minnesota 15.50 116. Kansas 15.43 Washington and USC are in 6 (of 7) of the lists, Kansas in 5, PSU/Minny/Wiscy/Fla/Hawaii/BYU 3, Nebraska 2, Texas 1.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 25, 2015 23:41:39 GMT -5
Stats give an indication of the kind of game Hawaii plays- serve tough then suffocate offenses with their big block.
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Post by madonna on Nov 26, 2015 0:24:11 GMT -5
As much as I'd love for Hawaii to win the NCAA Championship, I sense that Washington will win.
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 26, 2015 1:24:51 GMT -5
Galen center is packed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 2:04:50 GMT -5
Do you know, statistically speaking, WA has the best chances to win the National Championship this year. They are tops in almost all stat categories. Well, Pablo agrees with you. The stats have tightened up from earlier in the season, largely from UW playing first an easy pre-conference and then in a tough conference (trying to weed out the pretenders): Hitting Percentage:... Opp. Hitting Percentage:... Kills/Set:... Assists/Set:... Blocks/Set:... Aces/Set:... Digs/Set:... Washington and USC are in 6 (of 7) of the lists, Kansas in 5, PSU/Minny/Wiscy/Fla/Hawaii/BYU 3, Nebraska 2, Texas 1. I don't really look at digs/set as this statistic has very little correlation to winning national championships, statistically speaking Penn State was always middle of the road in this category and it didn't affect them because they could terminate; thus, no need to keep rallies going. I'm only bringing up the historical correlation here. Assists/set are just a notch above digs/set. The most telling team stats (from the national rankings) are: hitting %, opponent hitting %, sideout % (not a cumulative recorded stat - gotta compile this one yourself), blocks/set, kills/set, and aces/set. (Edited 9:05 am EST - I accidentally cut off half the telling stats in my original post).
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Post by akbar on Nov 26, 2015 6:59:48 GMT -5
Hitting %, blocking %, side out% and opp hitting %.......and all of these must be considered in the context of the league and competition.
Thsee Regionals are going to be thrilling.
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Post by scottysocc on Nov 26, 2015 9:34:14 GMT -5
At this point I think....
Major contenders: Washington, USC, PSU, Nebraska, Minnesota (Very likely one of these teams will win it in my book)
In the conversation: Texas, Hawaii, UCLA, Stanford
Long Shots: BYU, Kansas, Wisconsin
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Post by BuckysHeat on Nov 26, 2015 9:45:45 GMT -5
I think the stats tell a lot but these stats are all taken over the entire season. As seen this year, a lot has changed for many teams from start to finish. More telling stats would be from the last 10-12 matches each team played. I am too lazy to take a look so have no idea how they would play out and what changes there would be from the overall though.
Either way , it will be a very interesting final 16, hopefully all of these teams that scottysocc lists don't play each other before that time, it will make for some great ball
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Post by canda on Nov 26, 2015 11:02:37 GMT -5
At this point I think.... Major contenders: Washington, USC, PSU, Nebraska, Minnesota (Very likely one of these teams will win it in my book) In the conversation: Texas, Hawaii, UCLA, Stanford Long Shots: BYU, Kansas, Wisconsin I would put Wisconsin in the Major Contenders category, the way they are playing lately, and also with the leadership of Carlini. Penn State may have to move down to "In the conversation". The Nittany Lions have made an adjustment at libero, with Kendall Pierce, which seems to make them better. Still, they need to show me something against Nebraska in their last game, to prove they're legit. Having said that, Megan Courtney has shown that she can dominate an important match when necessary. But Nebraska's defense may have a say in that. Still, no one plays better than her when they get to the Final Four. But can Penn State get to to the Final Four?
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Post by badgerbreath on Nov 26, 2015 15:10:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not sure what justifies demoting the badgers to dark horses. By almost every stat measurement they are among the top in B1G play, and that's including results from those first few stuttering weeks. If we think the B1G is the strongest conference that automatically qualifies them as serious contenders.
I'm interested to see if PSU has fixed their back row problems. They could be very dangerous if that happens. Minnesota really woke up the last three sets against OSU, and started playing with the intensity we haven't seen as much of in recent weeks. It's really hard to separate the B1G teams right now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 15:17:25 GMT -5
At this point I think.... Major contenders: Washington, USC, PSU, Nebraska, Minnesota (Very likely one of these teams will win it in my book) In the conversation: Texas, Hawaii, UCLA, Stanford Long Shots: BYU, Kansas, Wisconsin If you have Wisconsin as a long shot, you havent seen them play lately
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 26, 2015 15:23:25 GMT -5
I have seen Wisconsin play recently play. The Badgers are a good team but a great setter paired with a bunch of noodle arms on offense doesn't lead me to front runners.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 26, 2015 15:44:58 GMT -5
I don't really look at digs/set as this statistic has very little correlation to winning national championships, statistically speaking Penn State was always middle of the road in this category and it didn't affect them because they could terminate; thus, no need to keep rallies going. I'm only bringing up the historical correlation here. Assists/set are just a notch above digs/set. The most telling team stats (from the national rankings) are: hitting %, opponent hitting %, sideout % (not a cumulative recorded stat - gotta compile this one yourself), blocks/set, kills/set, and aces/set. (Edited 9:05 am EST - I accidentally cut off half the telling stats in my original post).In isolation, yes. I do think they help establish the various strengths (profiles ) of the top teams. Lots of digs can mean that a team can't terminate or block. For top teams, however, it usually means they are very good at defending their floor. Digs/set are inversely correlated to blocks/set. The more blocks, the fewer digs, and vice versa. That doesn't mean that a top blocking team can't be a very good digging team, however - they just have fewer opportunities. It would be nice to know what percentage of digs result in kills. Conversely, lots of digs can mean that a team's defensive strategy involves funneling attacks to diggers, rather than blocking for points. Assists/set is pretty closely correlated to kills/set, and can indicate offensive efficiency (but also opponent incompetency). Strong serving and blocking, forcing opponent errors, however, does reduce assist opportunities.
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Post by TuesdayGone on Nov 26, 2015 16:27:17 GMT -5
At this point I think.... Major contenders: Washington, USC, PSU, Nebraska, Minnesota (Very likely one of these teams will win it in my book) In the conversation: Texas, Hawaii, UCLA, Stanford Long Shots: BYU, Kansas, Wisconsin If you have Wisconsin as a long shot, you havent seen them play lately Wisconsin has been the best team in the big ten since October 18th... Record of 11-0 Wisconsin lost a 5 set match to Minnesota earlier in the year....if Wisconsin won that 5th set they would be back to back big ten champs. Wisconsin is one of the favorites to win it all.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 16:38:01 GMT -5
If you have Wisconsin as a long shot, you havent seen them play lately Wisconsin has been the best team in the big ten since October 18th... Record of 11-0 Wisconsin lost a 5 set match to Minnesota earlier in the year....if Wisconsin won that 5th set they would be back to back big ten champs. Wisconsin is one of the favorites to win it all. This has to be won of my biggest pet peeves, the infamous "if we won the fifth set". If Illinois won the fifth set against Wisconsin, then Wisconsin definitely wouldnt have been in the big ten championship hunt. If Minnesota won the fifth set against Purdue, they would've already won the big ten title outright. If and would've are quite possibly the lamest words in the english language.
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