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Post by badgerbreath on Nov 26, 2015 19:03:45 GMT -5
It's more correct to say the badgers played eventual B1G champion pretty tough, and now they are substantially better and mentally tougher. They ended up being much closer to the top than you would have thought possible at the beginning of the year.
In an alternative universe where the schedule was not so front loaded, who knows what would have happened. They may have been right there at the end. Alternatively, they maybe got so much better so quickly precisely because they went through the gauntlet early in the season.
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Post by Wahinevball1234 on Nov 26, 2015 19:12:48 GMT -5
I just voted for Kansas because I felt bad they had no votes.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 26, 2015 19:19:31 GMT -5
Or due to having an easier schedule in their last ten matches. Getting to play PSU and Nebraska only once was a possible advantage for the win/loss record. Playing Maryland and Iowa (26-39) only once helped the RPI.
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Post by badgerbreath on Nov 26, 2015 19:56:17 GMT -5
Or due to having an easier schedule in their last ten matches. Getting to play PSU and Nebraska only once was a possible advantage for the win/loss record. Playing Maryland and Iowa (26-39) only once helped the RPI. It could also be seen as an advantage for PSU and Neb, especially since any rematch would have been in Madison. And to be honest, everybody had an easier schedule in the last half of the B1G season. The only matches among the top 4 are Minnie v PSU last week and the upcoming PSU v Neb match, I believe. The other 6 matches among them happened in the first 8 weeks of the season. It was something we complained about last year as well.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 19:58:28 GMT -5
I don't really look at digs/set as this statistic has very little correlation to winning national championships, statistically speaking Penn State was always middle of the road in this category and it didn't affect them because they could terminate; thus, no need to keep rallies going. I'm only bringing up the historical correlation here. Assists/set are just a notch above digs/set. The most telling team stats (from the national rankings) are: hitting %, opponent hitting %, sideout % (not a cumulative recorded stat - gotta compile this one yourself), blocks/set, kills/set, and aces/set. In isolation, yes. I do think they help establish the various strengths (profiles ) of the top teams. Lots of digs can mean that a team can't terminate or block. For top teams, however, it usually means they are very good at defending their floor. Digs/set are inversely correlated to blocks/set. The more blocks, the fewer digs, and vice versa. That doesn't mean that a top blocking team can't be a very good digging team, however - they just have fewer opportunities. It would be nice to know what percentage of digs result in kills. Conversely, lots of digs can mean that a team's defensive strategy involves funneling attacks to diggers, rather than blocking for points. Assists/set is pretty closely correlated to kills/set, and can indicate offensive efficiency (but also opponent incompetency). Strong serving and blocking, forcing opponent errors, however, does reduce assist opportunities. Thanks, I didn't know the above (in red) was true. I remember about 12 years ago or so when PSU always led (or was near the top of) the conference in digs/set but didn't have anything else going for them. Then, in later years, when they were leading in kills/set and hitting percentage, digs/set dropped off a lot. I have not analyzed the correlation but it would be interesting to know. Based on the statistically trend I noticed, by looking over statistical data for past 10 years, I had a sense that this was true though.
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Post by BeiBei on Nov 26, 2015 20:03:09 GMT -5
I pick Nebraska based on their recent play and histories. They have a common factor when they won their last 2 titles. A first team all american taking a redshirt year
2000 - Nancy Meendering/Metcalf (98 & 99 1st team AA)
2006 - Christina Houghtelling (2005 POY and 1st AA)
2015 - Brianna Holman (2014 1st team AA). Let's see if the magic works again this year
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 26, 2015 20:33:22 GMT -5
Thanks, I didn't know the above (in red) was true. I remember about 12 years ago or so when PSU always led (or was near the top of) the conference in digs/set but didn't have anything else going for them. Then, in later years, when they were leading in kills/set and hitting percentage, digs/set dropped off a lot. I have not analyzed the correlation but it would be interesting to know. Based on the statistically trend I noticed, by looking over statistical data for past 10 years, I had a sense that this was true though. Probably should have added the qualifier, "tends to be". The logic is that every block removes a potential dig opportunity, so the more blocks, the fewer digs, at least for that team. Oregon and Arizona are teams that tend to get lots of digs, but fewer blocks. Now, if you're skunking everyone, you might have more blocks and digs, comparatively speaking, but the general rule would still tend to apply when looking at just that one team. In the Pac-12, the only team in the top five for blocks and digs is Washington (#1 and #5). I would argue that being strong or weak in both blocks and digs can say quite a lot.
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Post by Dakota on Nov 27, 2015 4:06:38 GMT -5
USC. Yesterday I would have entertained the thought that maybe just maybe the Gophers could do it. After watching the Purdue match, I don't know what to think. B1G enthusiasts would normally just take that in stride claiming that now meant both Minnesota and Purdue could do it. For the record, I still think Minny is the best team in America.
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Post by psuer1989 on Nov 27, 2015 8:26:22 GMT -5
I voted for PSU (homer vote) but there is always a chance considering how Rose usually has them playing in the tournament. Having KP, a senior, now at libero also helps. However, if it is not meant to be for PSU, I will be pulling for the Gophers.
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Post by frustratedsetter on Nov 27, 2015 9:15:19 GMT -5
My heart believes in Hawai'i. My heart wants Hawai'i to win, however my brain is saying that it will be very tough.
I believe that Hawai'i will have difficulty overcoming the home court advantage of UW, and the B1G schools. However, I believe they do stand a good chance to defeat the other seeded teams in their homecourt in the second round. The second round match is the main hurdle for Hawai'i since if they get out of the second round I can see them getting to the Final Four.
I have BTN so I do follow B1G closely, and I do think that Wisconsin and Nebraska (ugh) are playing the best volleyball at this point in the season. I do hope that Minnesota can turn it on, as it will be very exciting for Minnesota to win it all!
I think 2011 is the last season that the tourney is this wide open.
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Post by dawgnerd on Nov 27, 2015 14:06:42 GMT -5
Thanks, I didn't know the above (in red) was true. I remember about 12 years ago or so when PSU always led (or was near the top of) the conference in digs/set but didn't have anything else going for them. Then, in later years, when they were leading in kills/set and hitting percentage, digs/set dropped off a lot. I have not analyzed the correlation but it would be interesting to know. Based on the statistically trend I noticed, by looking over statistical data for past 10 years, I had a sense that this was true though. Probably should have added the qualifier, "tends to be". The logic is that every block removes a potential dig opportunity, so the more blocks, the fewer digs, at least for that team. Oregon and Arizona are teams that tend to get lots of digs, but fewer blocks. Now, if you're skunking everyone, you might have more blocks and digs, comparatively speaking, but the general rule would still tend to apply when looking at just that one team. In the Pac-12, the only team in the top five for blocks and digs is Washington (#1 and #5). I would argue that being strong or weak in both blocks and digs can say quite a lot. The other part is that a team hitting a high percentage is going to have fewer defensive opportunities,so blocks per set or digs per set will be tougher to come by. It might be more revealing to treat them like opponent hitting percentage, that is: blocks per opponent attack and digs per opponent attack (maybe minus blocks).
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 27, 2015 14:25:23 GMT -5
I pick Nebraska based on their recent play and histories. They have a common factor when they won their last 2 titles. A first team all american taking a redshirt year 2000 - Nancy Meendering/Metcalf (98 & 99 1st team AA) 2006 - Christina Houghtelling (2005 POY and 1st AA) 2015 - Brianna Holman (2014 1st team AA). Let's see if the magic works again this year ......
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 27, 2015 14:47:41 GMT -5
The other part is that a team hitting a high percentage is going to have fewer defensive opportunities,so blocks per set or digs per set will be tougher to come by. It might be more revealing to treat them like opponent hitting percentage, that is: blocks per opponent attack and digs per opponent attack (maybe minus blocks). Also, the national digs/set has lots of "lesser" teams at the top of the stat list. When two teams that "can't terminate" play, you're going to see fewer kills, more errors, and lots of digging, as the match is turned into a ping-pong match. For blocks/set, it is the opposite case, with mostly ranked teams at the top. Also, dig opportunities are not just denied by blocks for points, but also by put-backs (which result in opponent-digs) and by unforced hitting errors due to trying to avoid the block.
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Post by maplespear on Nov 27, 2015 15:21:12 GMT -5
I pick Nebraska based on their recent play and histories. They have a common factor when they won their last 2 titles. A first team all american taking a redshirt year 2000 - Nancy Meendering/Metcalf (98 & 99 1st team AA) 2006 - Christina Houghtelling (2005 POY and 1st AA) 2015 - Brianna Holman (2014 1st team AA). Let's see if the magic works again this year Very interesting stat, thank you for posting. I hope you are 100 percent correct : D I voted for Nebraska because of their consistency of late. Every player is contributing and executing well. Plus, everyone likes everyone, and it shows on the court. Saturday's game vs. Penn State is HUGE for us to win and would carry us far in the tourney.
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Nov 27, 2015 15:31:36 GMT -5
I pick Nebraska based on their recent play and histories. They have a common factor when they won their last 2 titles. A first team all american taking a redshirt year 2000 - Nancy Meendering/Metcalf (98 & 99 1st team AA) 2006 - Christina Houghtelling (2005 POY and 1st AA) 2015 - Brianna Holman (2014 1st team AA). Let's see if the magic works again this year Very interesting stat, thank you for posting. I hope you are 100 percent correct : D I voted for Nebraska because of their consistency of late. Every player is contributing and executing well. Plus, everyone likes everyone, and it shows on the court. Tonight's game vs. Penn State is HUGE for us to win and would carry us far in the tourney. You mean TOMORROW night's game. Buena suerte, Huskers.
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