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Post by TuesdayGone on Jan 27, 2016 22:36:45 GMT -5
Can someone shed light on the average salaries of these USA players playing overseas?
I have read that Jordan Larson makes a Million a year???
But what would the typical average salary of players be??
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Post by texasex01 on Jan 28, 2016 1:18:54 GMT -5
Is Annie Drew's playing overseas? Also, does she have any chance with USA in the future? Is Hamson done with volley forever? Annie Drews is playing for Mayaguez Indias in Puerto Rico. Kim Willoughby is her teammate. Her team recently lost to Ponce Leonas that includes Haley Eckerman, Aiyana Whitney, and Megan Courtney. Interestingly, they have Eckerman playing all the way around as a passing left side hitter. Below is a link to the entire match. Match Video
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Post by charlesd on Jan 28, 2016 9:13:15 GMT -5
Can someone shed light on the average salaries of these USA players playing overseas? I have read that Jordan Larson makes a Million a year??? But what would the typical average salary of players be?? I have heard that in most of the European leagues the average player might earn €1000 to €2500 a month and receive a sparsely furnished apartment (sometimes shared) and a leased car. After living expenses there is not much remaining for a 401K! These athletes play primarily for the love of the game, to improve their skills and in some cases prepare for national team assignments, and for the opportunity to travel and experience other places, not for the money. And even these relatively modest salaries cannot be justified on the basis of gate receipts or rights fees alone. The clubs usually receive significant tax breaks and heavy investments by rich corporate, government, or individual local business sponsors for advertising signage and the like, to provide the funding for their operations, including salaries. That's why European player uniforms are covered in logos. Many of the clubs struggle financially, even to the point of not really wanting to qualify for things like the Champions League or CEV Cup because of the significant additional travel costs involved.
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Post by n00b on Jan 28, 2016 11:01:39 GMT -5
Champions League Drawing of Lots happened this morning. Pomi Casalmaggiore (Italian club featuring Carli Lloyd and Lauren Gibbemeyer) was chosen to host the Final Four and gets a bye to that point. Here's what the bracket looks like Pomi Casalmaggiore (ITA) vs (bye) (bye) vs (bye) Uralochka-NTMK Ekaterinburg (RUS) vs Dinamo Kazan (RUS) PGE Atom Trefl Sopot (POL) vs Nordmeccanica Piacenza (ITA) Eczacibasi VitrA Istanbul (TUR) vs Vafikbank Istanbul (TUR) Lokomotiv Baku (AZE) vs Volero Zurich (SUI) Chemik Police (POL) vs Fenerbahce Grundig Istanbul (TUR) Dresder SC (GER) vs Dinamo Moscow (RUS) Next matches are February 9th-11th. link
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Post by mtuliobr on Feb 5, 2016 0:02:11 GMT -5
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Post by charlesd on Feb 5, 2016 15:14:36 GMT -5
Further to my note above, the article linked below appeared recently in Germany. It explains how the first division team in Hamburg will likely disappear after this season because of a failure to locate a new sponsor to fund a budget shortfall of €400,000 to €500,000 for next year. Hamburg is one of the more modestly financed teams in the German league. I understand that teams like Dresden and Schwerin, which are atop the standings, would have a budget of several times this amount. But just doing the math, a budget of €600,000 divided among 12 players, 3 or 4 coaches/trainers, and team executives, only amounts to some €4000 per month per person for an eight-month season, before deducting travel, housing, automobile, equipment, and other operational expenses. That’s not a lot to work with. In similar situations in other leagues the first casualty is often player salaries. Certainly there are stories out there about athletes in some leagues not being paid. A related downward pressure on player salaries seems to also arise because judging by the number of mid-season injury replacements, the supply of players continues to exceed the demand. In particular, as it relates to American and other foreign players, many of these athletes only stay at a given club for one or two years and then move on as the club maxes out on what it is willing to pay. Many simply come home. Some find another place to play, perhaps with a modest increase. There is always a crop of first-year players willing to take their place. Or, to reiterate the point, players like Larson are very much the exception to the rule that applies to the average US player in Europe. www.abendblatt.de/sport/article206986825/VT-Aurubis-geht-vom-Netz.html
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Post by charlesd on Feb 5, 2016 18:50:49 GMT -5
Following the blogs of a few US players, my impression is that experiences like "getting to know another culture / language", "making new friends there" or "growing as a person" seem to be at least as important for them (as you already pointed out above). Or to quote Katie Slay (in her latest blog post): "... I have been able to learn a lot about who I am and what I stand for. Moving to a new country where I don’t know anyone and can’t speak the language has lead me in to my fair share of challenges and obstacles. Like that time in France when we were sent to the bank without a translator to open a bank account and no one at the bank spoke English. Needless to say, that was interesting, but it got done! I have been put in situations where I have to stand up for myself and what I think is right, and I have learned how to navigate those situations with professionalism. I have found out that I can take care of myself and provide myself with what I need. I am able to make friends with people who have grown up differently than I have. These friendships have led me to broader thinking and given me a better perspective on what is important in life. I feel empowered to control my thoughts and shape my perspective on life so that I choose happiness. I have faced scary challenges and not just survived them, but thrived. Not every day is spectacular, and I have seriously struggled to the point of wanting to give up. But I did not. For that, I am proud. ..." That is indeed a great quote from Katie and I think she is right on the mark. Playing pro in Europe or elsewhere is a tremendous opportunity to learn and grow. Those who embrace it and choose to be happy, thrive. Those who become easily homesick, or who are unable to adapt to and accept that there are different ways of doing things, will not. Thanks for sharing the quote!
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Post by NebraskaVBfan93 on Feb 5, 2016 19:06:20 GMT -5
Is Annie Drew's playing overseas? Also, does she have any chance with USA in the future? Is Hamson done with volley forever? I believe Hamson is playing BB in Russia. My guess would be that she's done with VB though things could change.
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Post by oldmanred on Feb 7, 2016 11:27:02 GMT -5
Kelsey Fien in Sweden1 linkGO HUSKERS
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Post by carouselambra on Feb 7, 2016 15:59:01 GMT -5
Following the blogs of a few US players, my impression is that experiences like "getting to know another culture / language", "making new friends there" or "growing as a person" seem to be at least as important for them (as you already pointed out above). Or to quote Katie Slay (in her latest blog post): "... I have been able to learn a lot about who I am and what I stand for. Moving to a new country where I don’t know anyone and can’t speak the language has lead me in to my fair share of challenges and obstacles. Like that time in France when we were sent to the bank without a translator to open a bank account and no one at the bank spoke English. Needless to say, that was interesting, but it got done! I have been put in situations where I have to stand up for myself and what I think is right, and I have learned how to navigate those situations with professionalism. I have found out that I can take care of myself and provide myself with what I need. I am able to make friends with people who have grown up differently than I have. These friendships have led me to broader thinking and given me a better perspective on what is important in life. I feel empowered to control my thoughts and shape my perspective on life so that I choose happiness. I have faced scary challenges and not just survived them, but thrived. Not every day is spectacular, and I have seriously struggled to the point of wanting to give up. But I did not. For that, I am proud. ..." Full blog here: kslayadventures.wordpress.com/
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Post by mtuliobr on Feb 9, 2016 1:01:37 GMT -5
Courtney Thompson with RexonaAdes in Brazil Cup quarterfinals (RexonaAdes x Nestlé Osasco):
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Post by vup on Feb 10, 2016 13:01:41 GMT -5
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Post by vup on Feb 10, 2016 13:05:59 GMT -5
Eczacibasi starts set 3 6-0.
Vakifbank subs in Kim Hill
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Post by vup on Feb 10, 2016 13:22:53 GMT -5
Eczacibasi wins set 3, 25-10. Larson gets the last two points with a solo stuff and a heads up tip on 2.
Why doesn't Vakifbank play Sheilla? She only got subbed in late in set 3... ?
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Post by vup on Feb 10, 2016 13:37:42 GMT -5
Kreklow in.
15-10 Vakifbank, set 4
16-10
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