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Post by hammer on Dec 22, 2015 18:52:32 GMT -5
Hodson will be more of POY candidate than Ajanaku. A lot of things will have to go right for Hodson to up her numbers from this year on the left. It is just harder to kill the ball on the left side the way defenses are stacked with the opposing L usually handling cross court rockets. She could be one of two hitters in the front row (probably with Inky in one rotation and Fitz in another) if Stanford goes with a 5-1. So that's a couple rotations where she is front row with only one other hitter. She'll need to incorporate more junk shots into her repertoire to keep defenders off balance. I'm thinking around 5kps with a .300 hitting percentage will be required to bring home the bacon.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 19:11:53 GMT -5
Hodson will be more of POY candidate than Ajanaku. A lot of things will have to go right for Hodson to up her numbers from this year on the left. It is just harder to kill the ball on the left side the way defenses are stacked with the opposing L usually handling cross court rockets. She could be one of two hitters in the front row (probably with Inky in one rotation and Fitz in another) if Stanford goes with a 5-1. So that's a couple rotations where she is front row with only one other hitter. She'll need to incorporate more junk shots into her repertoire to keep defenders off balance. I'm thinking around 5kps with a .300 hitting percentage will be required to bring home the bacon. The last five OHs to win NPOY: Bricio in 2015: 5.14 kps, hitting .299 Vansant in 2013: 4.41 kps, hitting .320 Jupiter in 2011: 4.47 kps, hitting .265 Hodge in 2009: 4.67 kps, hitting .371 (hit .400 in conference) Fawcett in 2008: 3.78 kps, hitting .358 (also hit .400 in conference)
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 22, 2015 19:20:44 GMT -5
Hodson will be more of POY candidate than Ajanaku. Well, that all depends. I mean, you're not likely to be NPOY if you aren't even POY of your own team. If Inky is back 100% and Stanford runs as much of their offense through her as possible, I bet Inky will be the team's POY candidate. But it depends on what happens.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Dec 22, 2015 21:57:20 GMT -5
A lot of things will have to go right for Hodson to up her numbers from this year on the left. It is just harder to kill the ball on the left side the way defenses are stacked with the opposing L usually handling cross court rockets. She could be one of two hitters in the front row (probably with Inky in one rotation and Fitz in another) if Stanford goes with a 5-1. So that's a couple rotations where she is front row with only one other hitter. She'll need to incorporate more junk shots into her repertoire to keep defenders off balance. I'm thinking around 5kps with a .300 hitting percentage will be required to bring home the bacon. The last five OHs to win NPOY: Bricio in 2015: 5.14 kps, hitting .299 Vansant in 2013: 4.41 kps, hitting .320 Jupiter in 2011: 4.47 kps, hitting .265 Hodge in 2009: 4.67 kps, hitting .371 (hit .400 in conference) Fawcett in 2008: 3.78 kps, hitting .358 (also hit .400 in conference) those Hodge numbers are silly
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Post by WahineFan44 on Dec 22, 2015 22:13:20 GMT -5
In Order 1. Carlini 2. Rolfzen 3. Ajanaku 4. Taylor 5. Nwanebu. 6. Allhassan, What about Ogbugo? She's a game changer even though she didn't so well in the NC. I don't think she will get enough KPS TO get it. I think Nwanebu will be their go to player
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Post by #skoskers on Dec 22, 2015 23:00:48 GMT -5
I'm not sure I buy Rolfzen as a favorite for POY either. For hitters, numbers matter for this award, and she is just not going to be the Santana or Bricio of that offense. There will be gaudier numbers coming from elsewhere - maybe from within her own team. That makes her path to the award more problematic. I can see a middle winning it next year. There are some truly excellent ones. Did you actually think Santana or Bricio would be in the conversation of NPOY early this season after their teams' dismal performances in 2014? Courtney and Burgess were most people's predictions for 2015 NPOY of all the wing spikers. Granted, Rolfzen's numbers weren't exceptional at the beginning of this season, but she was acclimating to a new position; in the latter part of the year, she played some flawless volleyball. Here's how Rolfzen's third year compares to some of 2014's juniors:
| Kills/Set | Efficiency | Digs/Set | Blocks/Set | Kadie Rolfzen (2015) | 3.30 | .277 | 2.82 | 0.86 | Daly Santana ('14) | 3.90 | .199 | 2.29 | 0.44 | Samantha Bricio ('14) | 4.28 | .257 | 2.88 | 0.42 | Megan Courtney ('14) | 2.44 | .283 | 2.34 | 0.74 | Jordan Burgess ('14) | 3.09 | .264 | 3.16 | 0.41 |
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 22, 2015 23:27:42 GMT -5
I'm not sure I buy Rolfzen as a favorite for POY either. For hitters, numbers matter for this award, and she is just not going to be the Santana or Bricio of that offense. There will be gaudier numbers coming from elsewhere - maybe from within her own team. That makes her path to the award more problematic. I can see a middle winning it next year. There are some truly excellent ones. Did you actually think Santana or Bricio would be in the conversation of NPOY early this season after their teams' dismal performances in 2014? Courtney and Burgess were most people's predictions for 2015 NPOY of all the wing spikers. Granted, Rolfzen's numbers weren't exceptional at the beginning of this season, but she was acclimating to a new position; in the latter part of the year, she played some flawless volleyball. Here's how Rolfzen's third year compares to some of 2014's juniors:
| Kills/Set | Efficiency | Digs/Set | Blocks/Set | Kadie Rolfzen (2015) | 3.30 | .277 | 2.82 | 0.86 | Daly Santana ('14) | 3.90 | .199 | 2.29 | 0.44 | Samantha Bricio ('14) | 4.28 | .257 | 2.88 | 0.42 | Megan Courtney ('14) | 2.44 | .283 | 2.34 | 0.74 | Jordan Burgess ('14) | 3.09 | .264 | 3.16 | 0.41 |
No...my point is that the huskers are not set up to allow Kadie to dominate their offense the way Santana and Bricio did for their teams. Even with those lower numbers for Santana and Bricio in 2014, they still dominated the offense for their teams, so that when the teams became more successful those players were able to accumulate the numbers they needed to be in the NPOY conversation. Hitters in more balanced attacks are at a disadvantage in the NPOY debate. I'm not saying it's not proper, it's just the way the decision gets made.
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Post by #skoskers on Dec 22, 2015 23:43:16 GMT -5
Did you actually think Santana or Bricio would be in the conversation of NPOY early this season after their teams' dismal performances in 2014? Courtney and Burgess were most people's predictions for 2015 NPOY of all the wing spikers. Granted, Rolfzen's numbers weren't exceptional at the beginning of this season, but she was acclimating to a new position; in the latter part of the year, she played some flawless volleyball. Here's how Rolfzen's third year compares to some of 2014's juniors:
| Kills/Set | Efficiency | Digs/Set | Blocks/Set | Kadie Rolfzen (2015) | 3.30 | .277 | 2.82 | 0.86 | Daly Santana ('14) | 3.90 | .199 | 2.29 | 0.44 | Samantha Bricio ('14) | 4.28 | .257 | 2.88 | 0.42 | Megan Courtney ('14) | 2.44 | .283 | 2.34 | 0.74 | Jordan Burgess ('14) | 3.09 | .264 | 3.16 | 0.41 |
No...my point is that the huskers are not set up to allow Kadie to dominate their offense the way Santana and Bricio did for their teams. Even with those lower numbers for Santana and Bricio in 2014, they still dominated the offense for their teams, so that when the teams became more successful those players were able to accumulate the numbers they needed to be in the NPOY conversation. Hitters in more balanced attacks are at a disadvantage in the NPOY debate. I'm not saying it's not proper, it's just the way the decision gets made. Burgess and Courtney not only had numbers (and roles) very similar to Kadie's junior year, but they also played on teams with (expected) balanced attacks, which didn't stop people from predicting their chances of 2015 NPOY recognition. Again, look at this year's finalists for NPOY; both Santana and Bricio had less efficient years than Kadie as juniors, so if she continues trending upwards in efficiency in 2016, she will certainly be in the conversation for NPOY.
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Post by #skoskers on Dec 22, 2015 23:47:29 GMT -5
Hayley Hodson may be the best OH in the country next year, and could be in the conversation for POY. I don't think an OH gets it next year. It's a middle or carlini. I think Wisconsin would have to hit over .300 for the season and get to the Final Four for Carlini to take NPOY honors.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 23, 2015 0:01:48 GMT -5
No...my point is that the huskers are not set up to allow Kadie to dominate their offense the way Santana and Bricio did for their teams. Even with those lower numbers for Santana and Bricio in 2014, they still dominated the offense for their teams, so that when the teams became more successful those players were able to accumulate the numbers they needed to be in the NPOY conversation. Hitters in more balanced attacks are at a disadvantage in the NPOY debate. I'm not saying it's not proper, it's just the way the decision gets made. Burgess and Courtney not only had numbers (and roles) very similar to Kadie's junior year, but they also played on teams with (expected) balanced attacks, which didn't stop people from predicting their chances of 2015 NPOY recognition. Again, look at this year's finalists for NPOY; both Santana and Bricio had less efficient years than Kadie as juniors, so if she continues trending upwards in efficiency in 2016, she will certainly be in the conversation for NPOY. They were in the conversation for some of the season, but not really that close in the end. I don't see kadie getting more than 4/kills per set. Just based on the stats for OH NPOYs above, Kadie would have to hit ~0.350 to get the award with under 4 kills per set. It's possible, but that's a pretty big leap in efficiency. That's why I wouldn't think of her as a favorite from the beginning. That's not saying it isn't possible.
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Post by beachbomb on Dec 23, 2015 6:30:24 GMT -5
The last five OHs to win NPOY: Bricio in 2015: 5.14 kps, hitting .299 Vansant in 2013: 4.41 kps, hitting .320 Jupiter in 2011: 4.47 kps, hitting .265 Hodge in 2009: 4.67 kps, hitting .371 (hit .400 in conference) Fawcett in 2008: 3.78 kps, hitting .358 (also hit .400 in conference) those Hodge numbers are silly Klinemans 2010 stats were better ... Just saying
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2015 6:53:25 GMT -5
Did you actually think Santana or Bricio would be in the conversation of NPOY early this season after their teams' dismal performances in 2014? Courtney and Burgess were most people's predictions for 2015 NPOY of all the wing spikers. Granted, Rolfzen's numbers weren't exceptional at the beginning of this season, but she was acclimating to a new position; in the latter part of the year, she played some flawless volleyball. Here's how Rolfzen's third year compares to some of 2014's juniors:
| Kills/Set | Efficiency | Digs/Set | Blocks/Set | Kadie Rolfzen (2015) | 3.30 | .277 | 2.82 | 0.86 | Daly Santana ('14) | 3.90 | .199 | 2.29 | 0.44 | Samantha Bricio ('14) | 4.28 | .257 | 2.88 | 0.42 | Megan Courtney ('14) | 2.44 | .283 | 2.34 | 0.74 | Jordan Burgess ('14) | 3.09 | .264 | 3.16 | 0.41 |
No...my point is that the huskers are not set up to allow Kadie to dominate their offense the way Santana and Bricio did for their teams. Even with those lower numbers for Santana and Bricio in 2014, they still dominated the offense for their teams, so that when the teams became more successful those players were able to accumulate the numbers they needed to be in the NPOY conversation. Hitters in more balanced attacks are at a disadvantage in the NPOY debate. I'm not saying it's not proper, it's just the way the decision gets made. The offense was balanced because it had to be. Nebraska didn't have an attacker that was capable of carrying the offense for an entire season, so everyone was more successful when the burden was shouldered by more people. Kadie wasn't hardwired for that kind of role, Foecke was a freshman, and Fien has never been that kind of player in her two-year starting role. The offense was balanced because the players needed it to be. If Nebraska had a kid who was comfortable with the responsibility of carrying a team offensively, they'd use her in that way, like they have in previous years: Robinson, Larson, Pavan. I think Foecke will become that player in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2015 6:55:24 GMT -5
The last five OHs to win NPOY: Bricio in 2015: 5.14 kps, hitting .299 Vansant in 2013: 4.41 kps, hitting .320 Jupiter in 2011: 4.47 kps, hitting .265 Hodge in 2009: 4.67 kps, hitting .371 (hit .400 in conference) Fawcett in 2008: 3.78 kps, hitting .358 (also hit .400 in conference) those Hodge numbers are silly Add in the fact that she was one of two primary passers with D'Errico, and they're even more impressive.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Dec 23, 2015 8:44:36 GMT -5
those Hodge numbers are silly Add in the fact that she was one of two primary passers with D'Errico, and they're even more impressive. never got her due as a collegiate passer. IMO had the greatest collegiate career of all time
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Post by dorothymantooth on Dec 23, 2015 8:51:35 GMT -5
those Hodge numbers are silly Klinemans 2010 stats were better ... Just saying 5.5 kills .371, pretty crazy numbers. Who was 2o1o POY?
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