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Post by Wolfgang on Mar 7, 2017 15:34:57 GMT -5
So, Hawaii plays in the Queen's Beach tournament against Stetson and LMU. Friday, they play Stetson and LMU. And Saturday, they play the same teams again, but LMU first followed by Stetson. So, what does this mean for the flights? Are the flights playing against their counterpart flights twice? That has to be boring for the players to be playing against the same girls twice.
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Post by trollhunter on Mar 7, 2017 16:47:18 GMT -5
So, Hawaii plays in the Queen's Beach tournament against Stetson and LMU. Friday, they play Stetson and LMU. And Saturday, they play the same teams again, but LMU first followed by Stetson. So, what does this mean for the flights? Are the flights playing against their counterpart flights twice? That has to be boring for the players to be playing against the same girls twice. Yeah, that is not an optimal format. My guess is that a team or two dropped from the event, and they decided to still try to host it. For most teams, the lineup is pretty set except for seeds #4, #5, #6 (and maybe #7 moving up to exhibition). However, this early in the season, some teams may switch some of the upper seeds (by 1) if the pairs are not performing well. Maybe even switch players within pairs, but that is usually just for injury or illness.
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Post by Wolfgang on Mar 7, 2017 19:33:13 GMT -5
Hawaii needs a greater social media presence. More photos on Instagram and Facebook. More tweets in Twitter.
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Post by Wolfgang on Mar 8, 2017 17:25:28 GMT -5
What the heck did Rooks do that keeps her out of the team for so long?
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Post by newbeach on Mar 8, 2017 20:38:31 GMT -5
Hawaii needs a greater social media presence. More photos on Instagram and Facebook. More tweets in Twitter. Agreed! Some teams have great social media and really highlight their players with video clips etc. They should get some students Periscoping the home matches if they aren't televised. Definitely more Twitter and Instagram! They don't have the same live tweeting of matches that the indoor team has.
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Post by newbeach on Mar 8, 2017 20:42:53 GMT -5
What the heck did Rooks do that keeps her out of the team for so long? I think Cindy mentioned (on her blog) that Rooks would be at practice today. I might have read that wrong but will check it again.
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Post by vballfreak808 on Mar 8, 2017 22:19:46 GMT -5
What the heck did Rooks do that keeps her out of the team for so long? I think Cindy mentioned (on her blog) that Rooks would be at practice today. I might have read that wrong but will check it again. I think it meant that Cindy will be at beach practice later, not Rooks. But for now I would hope Rooks redshirts this year because it will be good to have her leadership next season.
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Post by newbeach on Mar 9, 2017 11:09:29 GMT -5
I think Cindy mentioned (on her blog) that Rooks would be at practice today. I might have read that wrong but will check it again. I think it meant that Cindy will be at beach practice later, not Rooks. But for now I would hope Rooks redshirts this year because it will be good to have her leadership next season. Thanks for clarifying! I skimmed it quickly and wasn't sure I got it right!
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Post by vbgirls2 on Mar 9, 2017 12:37:36 GMT -5
teams will move around based on who they are playing. Sometimes if you think that one of your teams will most likely get beat, they get moved to a different spot for example number 2 gets moved to three. Good coaches move their teams if they have a better chance in a different place. Also if a particular player is struggling she may get replaced or moved to play with someone else. Sometimes its chemistry.
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Post by Wolfgang on Mar 9, 2017 12:54:57 GMT -5
teams will move around based on who they are playing. Sometimes if you think that one of your teams will most likely get beat, they get moved to a different spot for example number 2 gets moved to three. Good coaches move their teams if they have a better chance in a different place. Also if a particular player is struggling she may get replaced or moved to play with someone else. Sometimes its chemistry. This "strategy" has confused me in the past. Let's say I don't think my #3 team of A31/A32 can beat the opponent's #3 team of Z31/Z32. So, I decide to move my #2 team of A21/A22 down to #3 so that they can beat the opponent's #3 team of Z31/Z32. (I move my #3 team up to #2 because that flight is a loss anyway for my team.) What's to prevent the opponent from moving their #3 team of Z31/Z32 up to #2? My short answer is that nothing prevents that and I'm assuming that when the coaches submit their pairs info, they do so without knowing what pairs info the other team will be submitting.
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Post by vbgirls2 on Mar 9, 2017 13:27:42 GMT -5
there is nothing to prevent your opponent from moving their teams around also, however you are right most teams don't know what pairs play in what spot, especially early season when their is natural movement. You hope your strategy comes as a surprise to the opponent or coach and that you can eek out a win with your placement. Your trying to win three out of five matches, so sometimes this gets your that third win.
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Post by skeleton on Mar 9, 2017 13:39:52 GMT -5
Punahou, Missouri grad Kan back home where it all started
By Cindy Luis March 9, 2017
It’s back to their roots for the members of the fifth-ranked Hawaii beach volleyball team. The Rainbow Wahine (4-0) return to their inaugural venue — Queen’s Beach — for this week’s Queen’s Cup with two matches each against No. 9 Stetson and Loyola Marymount.
The home opener is a homecoming for Carly Kan, the Punahou School graduate who played her All-American indoor career at Missouri. She is playing as a graduate student for the SandBows.
“It’s where it all started for me,” Kan said of Queen’s Beach. “I haven’t played at Queen’s since my high school days. It’s going to be fun.”
As Kan and partner Ari Homayun went, so did the SandBows last week. The duo and Hawaii both went 4-0 on the road, winning the University of Arizona Invitational as well as a dual vs. No. 12 Grand Canyon.
On Monday, Homayun-Kan, who played at Flight 5, were named the Big West’s inaugural pairs team of the week.
“We started working together in fall and kept doing what we’ve been doing in practice,” Kan said. “It’s worked out well for us.
“Having that target on our back (No. 5 ranking) we knew we had to come out even stronger. We’re taking it one week at a time and we’re focused on Stetson. It’s not hard not to look ahead.”
Looming next week is the Outrigger Hawaii Invitational, a field that includes defending national champion and No. 1 USC and No. 2 Florida State.
“It’s one step at a time,” Hawaii assistant coach Evan Silberstein said. “We want to go from 4-0 to 8-0 after this week, win all four duals, then we’ll look at next week.
“I think we could have had several pairs selected (for the Big West award). What was nice about (Homayun-Kan) was they were the first ones done and we got a point right off the bat. It’s like having your lead-off hitter in baseball get a home run.”
Silberstein said he didn’t expect much of a change in the lineup from last week’s trip although the beach team welcomed back several of the indoor crossovers who were at the USAV national team tryouts in Colorado. Back on the sand are freshman Norene Iosia and Annie Mitchem, the latter who completed her indoor eligibility last December.
The only current indoor crossover on last week’s trip was beach All-American Emily Maglio, who went 4-0 with Laurel Weaver at Flight 3. Beach and indoor All-American Nikki Taylor also went 4-0, playing with Ka’iwi Schucht at Flight 2; Taylor has exhausted her indoor eligibility.
Hawaii’s other home venue is the Ching Complex courts. The first campus match is March 20 against Nebraska.
COLLEGIATE BEACH VOLLEYBALL QUEEN’S CUP At Queen’s Beach, Waikiki
Friday
No. 9 Stetson (1-2) vs. Loyola Marymount (2-2), 10 a.m. No. 5 Hawaii (4-0) vs. No. 9 Stetson, 12:30 p.m. No. 5 Hawaii vs. Loyola Marymount, 3 p.m.
Saturday
No. 5 Hawaii vs. Loyola Marymount, 10 a.m. No. 9 Stetson vs. Loyola Marymount, 12:30 p.m. No. 5 Hawaii vs. No. 9 Stetson, 3 p.m.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Mar 9, 2017 23:18:33 GMT -5
teams will move around based on who they are playing. Sometimes if you think that one of your teams will most likely get beat, they get moved to a different spot for example number 2 gets moved to three. Good coaches move their teams if they have a better chance in a different place. Also if a particular player is struggling she may get replaced or moved to play with someone else. Sometimes its chemistry. Another term for this is "cheating." NCAA rules prohibit changing lineups to match up with a specific opponent. The "move up/down one spot" rule wasn't created for coaches to drop their #1 down to #2 to avoid a beatdown from Claes/Hughes, it was created to give the coach some leeway in case of injury or internal competition (for example, if your #3's start routinely beating your #2's in practice, you're allowed to switch them). Some coaches do try to get around the rule, and some are more egregious than others. The NCAA has warned more than one program to knock it off, and have made some changes in the lineup documents coaches have to fill in order to make it more difficult for matching up to occur.
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Post by downtheline on Mar 9, 2017 23:33:56 GMT -5
Good coaching strategy my ass.
This isn't chess. Bring your best and play the best.
It's a socially engineered sport if you can game the line up to avoid having to perform at the highest level.
Perfect for coaches I've seen play the shuffle to avoid a dominate pairing. They love calling compliance on their rivals also.
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Post by newbeach on Mar 10, 2017 17:58:11 GMT -5
Stetson just moved their entire lineup down a flight (from their LMU game) to play Hawaii (except for their #1 flight).
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