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Post by trojansc on Nov 26, 2017 13:31:02 GMT -5
I can't argue with those seeds, but I simply cannot respect the committee if they put LSU in. Travesty.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Nov 26, 2017 13:34:42 GMT -5
Here is my bracket (what I think the committee will do). The RPI cut-line is #47 North Texas as the last team. I am going with NC State and Maryland in and High Point and North Texas out. 1. Penn State (VCU, James Madison, Howard) 16. BYU (Oregon, Maryland, Denver) 8. Washington (Michigan, Florida State, LIU Brooklyn) 9. Utah (Louisville, Colorado State, Coastal Carolina) 4. Nebraska (Kansas, Missouri State, Fairfield) 13. UCLA (Cal Poly, NC State, Radford) 5. Texas (Pittsburgh, Hawaii, Stony Brook) 12. Creighton (Wichita State, Missouri, American) 3. Florida (Miami-FL, College of Charleston, Alabama State) 14. Wisconsin (Marquette, Notre Dame, Cleveland State) 6. Kentucky (Purdue, Kennesaw State, East Tennessee State) 11. Baylor (Michigan State, Oregon State, Central Arkansas) 2. Stanford (Western Kentucky, Austin Peay, CSU Bakersfield) 15. Iowa State (Illinois, Washington State, Miami-OH) 7. Minnesota (Colorado, Northern Iowa, North Dakota) 10. USC (San Diego, LSU, Princeton) in that case why wouldn't Hawaii go to USC, and LSU to Texas or Hawaii to Palo Alto, and Austin Peay or Western Kentucky to Texas
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 26, 2017 14:29:35 GMT -5
Here is my bracket (what I think the committee will do). The RPI cut-line is #47 North Texas as the last team. I am going with NC State and Maryland in and High Point and North Texas out. 1. Penn State (VCU, James Madison, Howard) 16. BYU (Oregon, Maryland, Denver) 8. Washington (Michigan, Florida State, LIU Brooklyn) 9. Utah (Louisville, Colorado State, Coastal Carolina) 4. Nebraska (Kansas, Missouri State, Fairfield) 13. UCLA (Cal Poly, NC State, Radford) 5. Texas (Pittsburgh, Hawaii, Stony Brook) 12. Creighton (Wichita State, Missouri, American) 3. Florida (Miami-FL, College of Charleston, Alabama State) 14. Wisconsin (Marquette, Notre Dame, Cleveland State) 6. Kentucky (Purdue, Kennesaw State, East Tennessee State) 11. Baylor (Michigan State, Oregon State, Central Arkansas) 2. Stanford (Western Kentucky, Austin Peay, CSU Bakersfield) 15. Iowa State (Illinois, Washington State, Miami-OH) 7. Minnesota (Colorado, Northern Iowa, North Dakota) 10. USC (San Diego, LSU, Princeton) in that case why wouldn't Hawaii go to USC, and LSU to Texas or Hawaii to Palo Alto, and Austin Peay or Western Kentucky to Texas Those are all fly-ins. So they could go any number of ways. I think Hawaii has gone to Minnesota and Texas A&M the last two years. They played USC in the 1st round last year, so I don't think they will go to USC this year. With these teams and seeds here are some things I think would or may likely happen. 1) I don't think Pittsburgh goes to Penn State since they went there last year. As a #1 seed, they may have an easier #3 (James Madison). 2) If Pittsburgh doesn't go to PSU, then it would probably be VCU - which means that Colorado State or one of those I have as a #2 will have to be a #3. 3) Wichita State and Kansas Have to go to either Nebraska or Creighton. There is no other way w/o increasing the # of fly-ins. Since Wichita State went to Nebraska last year and Creighton and Kansas were in the same subregional - I think it is very likely that Kansas would go to Nebraska and Wichita State to Creighton. 4) Florida will 'automatically' get Alabama State. Miami-FL seems more likely than Florida State since FSU was there last year. Either Kennesaw State or College of Charleston would have to be the other one. Based on increasing the quality of the #3's - it will make more sense for CofC to be with Florida and Kennesaw with Kentucky. 5) Notre Dame would have to go to Wisconsin. Marquette probably will go to Minnesota and someone like Colorado goes to Wisconsin (I need to switch from above) since Marquette went to Wisconsin last year. 6) Kentucky will get one of (Purdue, Western Kentucky, Michigan State, Michigan). I think Western Kentucky is the least likely. Western Kentucky will probably not go to Stanford, so I would need to switch that one (they went there last year). 7) I think Stanford (as the #2 seed) will get one of the 'easier' #3's (Austin Peay). 8) Illinois is going to Iowa State 9) I think San Diego is more likely to go to USC and Cal Poly to UCLA since San Diego went to UCLA last year.
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Post by dman on Nov 26, 2017 14:37:55 GMT -5
I can't argue with those seeds, but I simply cannot respect the committee if they put LSU in. Travesty. Nice to see your continued statement of impartiality....only reason you wouldn't respect it is because you'd be wrong! I know it would only be three times you'd be wrong....wouldn't hurt your overall % much though so I'd still be proud of your overall work if I were you.
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Post by Boof1224 on Nov 26, 2017 14:45:46 GMT -5
It prob won’t happen but I would love to see Stanford and psu on opposite sides so chance for championship game possible.
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Post by ProfessorPlum on Nov 26, 2017 14:47:27 GMT -5
I can't argue with those seeds, but I simply cannot respect the committee if they put LSU in. Travesty. Nice to see your continued statement of impartiality....only reason you wouldn't respect it is because you'd be wrong! I know it would only be three times you'd be wrong....wouldn't hurt your overall % much though so I'd still be proud of your overall work if I were you. Hahaha! But so so true!
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trojansc
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Post by trojansc on Nov 26, 2017 14:47:46 GMT -5
I can't argue with those seeds, but I simply cannot respect the committee if they put LSU in. Travesty. Nice to see your continued statement of impartiality....only reason you wouldn't respect it is because you'd be wrong! I know it would only be three times you'd be wrong....wouldn't hurt your overall % much though so I'd still be proud of your overall work if I were you. Inocrrect. The only reason I can't respect it is because the committee has set precedent to leave out a team like LSU. I just can't get over LSU's one win (High Point). What did High Point do all season? I can't get over that finish to the season either. Losing to Alabama, Georgia, and barely escaping Tennessee ? Here's another history fact for you: In the past 7 years, nobody has gotten an at-large bid without beating a TOP-50 RPI Team that made the Tournament. And also, for High Point's case, no team has gotten in the tournament without a top-50 victory (High Point's best win is outside top 50).
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Post by jayj79 on Nov 26, 2017 14:55:50 GMT -5
Are your parenthetical listing in "site seed" order? (i.e. the host team would play the last team listed?
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Post by Disc808 on Nov 26, 2017 14:58:33 GMT -5
It prob won’t happen but I would love to see Stanford and psu on opposite sides so chance for championship game possible. You foresee Stanford as the #4 seed? Just curious
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Post by dman on Nov 26, 2017 14:59:45 GMT -5
Nice to see your continued statement of impartiality....only reason you wouldn't respect it is because you'd be wrong! I know it would only be three times you'd be wrong....wouldn't hurt your overall % much though so I'd still be proud of your overall work if I were you. Inocrrect. The only reason I can't respect it is because the committee has set precedent to leave out a team like LSU. I just can't get over LSU's one win (High Point). What did High Point do all season? I can't get over that finish to the season either. Losing to Alabama, Georgia, and barely escaping Tennessee ? Here's another history fact for you: In the past 7 years, nobody has gotten an at-large bid without beating a TOP-50 RPI Team that made the Tournament. And also, for High Point's case, no team has gotten in the tournament without a top-50 victory (High Point's best win is outside top 50). There is no doubt that LSU had opportunities to improve and if they don't get in I would agree it is more their finish to the season than any other stat. My beef with this whole thing is when you look at a team like Charleston who has a horrible SOS compared to a team like LSU. Yes, great win against Baylor but that was very early in the year and I'm too lazy quite honestly to see if Baylor was at full strength that night. Your other point is their two wins against JMU who is at #48. LSU has played multiple teams in the Top 50-60 winning a few and losing a few. What is the lowest ranked team Charleston/LSU has lost to this year? My bet is Charleston has worse overall losses...if not then I like my crow cooked medium.
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Post by Boof1224 on Nov 26, 2017 15:00:25 GMT -5
It prob won’t happen but I would love to see Stanford and psu on opposite sides so chance for championship game possible. You foresee Stanford as the #4 seed? Just curious Idk. I’m just saying i really hope not. I want the possibility of playing them in championship.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 26, 2017 15:03:20 GMT -5
Blue, is there any possibility that Notre Dame could be sent to Seattle? I know they are within driving distance of Wisconsin and Kentucky, but still...
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 26, 2017 15:09:33 GMT -5
Nice to see your continued statement of impartiality....only reason you wouldn't respect it is because you'd be wrong! I know it would only be three times you'd be wrong....wouldn't hurt your overall % much though so I'd still be proud of your overall work if I were you. Inocrrect. The only reason I can't respect it is because the committee has set precedent to leave out a team like LSU. I just can't get over LSU's one win (High Point). What did High Point do all season? I can't get over that finish to the season either. Losing to Alabama, Georgia, and barely escaping Tennessee ? Here's another history fact for you: In the past 7 years, nobody has gotten an at-large bid without beating a TOP-50 RPI Team that made the Tournament. And also, for High Point's case, no team has gotten in the tournament without a top-50 victory (High Point's best win is outside top 50). I respect trojansc's opinion - I don't see any evidence of bias when it comes to bracket predictions. Also, trojansc is giving his educated opinion of what he thinks the committee will do (based on years of history), not necessarily what he thinks it should be in a perfect world. If any of us are using RPI, then we probably aren't going by what we think it should be. I would have thought LSU was likely to get a bid. Based on trojansc, I think they are not likely. I think they have a chance, but I would be worried.
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Post by dman on Nov 26, 2017 15:13:23 GMT -5
Inocrrect. The only reason I can't respect it is because the committee has set precedent to leave out a team like LSU. I just can't get over LSU's one win (High Point). What did High Point do all season? I can't get over that finish to the season either. Losing to Alabama, Georgia, and barely escaping Tennessee ? Here's another history fact for you: In the past 7 years, nobody has gotten an at-large bid without beating a TOP-50 RPI Team that made the Tournament. And also, for High Point's case, no team has gotten in the tournament without a top-50 victory (High Point's best win is outside top 50). I respect trojansc's opinion - I don't see any evidence of bias when it comes to bracket predictions. Also, trojansc is giving his educated opinion of what he thinks the committee will do (based on years of history), not necessarily what he thinks it should be in a perfect world. If any of us are using RPI, then we probably aren't going by what we think it should be. I would have thought LSU was likely to get a bid. Based on trojansc, I think they are not likely. I think they have a chance, but I would be worried. I'm already beyond worried, bp! Honestly, I'm doubtful they get in but I'm hopeful....and that's all a guy can do is hope!
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 26, 2017 15:15:03 GMT -5
Blue, is there any possibility that Notre Dame could be sent to Seattle? I know they are within driving distance of Wisconsin and Kentucky, but still... As long as Wisconsin is a seed, I don't see any reasonable scenarios where Notre Dame goes somewhere else w/o increasing the # of fly-ins. Maybe if Iowa gets a bid - and 'forces' UNI an Marquette to Wisconsin - but it would take more than that.
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