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Post by ajm on Jul 9, 2018 12:56:22 GMT -5
I know players have been doing this for years, but it's still bush league. It cheapened the AVP event by giving Klineman/Ross and Flint/Day free passes to the semi's. Also, don't lie about the reason, everyone from Donald Sun down to the ballboys knew why you packed up and left. If Gstaad is that important, why not go over a week early and play Espinho for more money and a depleted field? That didn't workout to well for Hochevar and Claes... I think Larsen/Stockman split $5200 in SF and while Britt/Claes split $3000 in Espinho.. and they won't be getting anything in Gstaad, but then again no guarantee yet for Larsen/Stockman. Game within the Game... Wonder if they signed up for the Euro trip after that 2nd in Xiamen. I understand it from a pure points and dollars standpoint, but it’s still poor sportsmanship and faking an injury makes it worse. It’s also not a good way to cultivate new fans of the tour. I assume the AVP was somewhat on board with this, otherwise they’d be breaching their contract without a legit injury. Wonder if USAV has a hand in it as well.
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Post by donnyw on Jul 9, 2018 13:02:06 GMT -5
That didn't workout to well for Hochevar and Claes... I think Larsen/Stockman split $5200 in SF and while Britt/Claes split $3000 in Espinho.. and they won't be getting anything in Gstaad, but then again no guarantee yet for Larsen/Stockman. Game within the Game... Wonder if they signed up for the Euro trip after that 2nd in Xiamen. I understand it from a pure points and dollars standpoint, but it’s still poor sportsmanship and faking an injury makes it worse. It’s also not a good way to cultivate new fans of the tour. I assume the AVP was somewhat on board with this, otherwise they’d be breaching their contract without a legit injury. Wonder if USAV has a hand in it as well. I would have have just skipped the AVP event also instead of faking a injury...Although Emily & Kelly are usually very active on SM and neither is saying a word. Was this injury coming from Emily herself or the announcers?
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Post by tamz on Jul 9, 2018 13:02:38 GMT -5
That didn't workout to well for Hochevar and Claes... I think Larsen/Stockman split $5200 in SF and while Britt/Claes split $3000 in Espinho.. and they won't be getting anything in Gstaad, but then again no guarantee yet for Larsen/Stockman. Game within the Game... Wonder if they signed up for the Euro trip after that 2nd in Xiamen. Kelly and Britt split $6k with their 5th place finish. Also, probably got their trip paid for by USAV, maybe wouldn't have flying over for the CQ. Only the top 4 teams have stipend for going to international tournaments. Are they part of the top4?
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jul 9, 2018 13:07:08 GMT -5
Kelly and Britt split $6k with their 5th place finish. Also, probably got their trip paid for by USAV, maybe wouldn't have flying over for the CQ. Only the top 4 teams have stipend for going to international tournaments. Are they part of the top4? They were for last week.
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Post by johnbar on Jul 9, 2018 15:15:31 GMT -5
I was on-site in San Francisco Saturday, and around 1:00 or 1:30 (well after the first forfeit) one of the officials told several people (officials, volunteers & spectators) that as of that moment, the 3:45pm match between Larsen/Stockman and Day/Flint was still on, but, of course, Larsen/Stockman might decide later to forfeit that match, too.
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Post by bvbfan88 on Jul 9, 2018 15:22:23 GMT -5
Gstaad Beachstream purchased and the receipt says "BeachStream Gstaad 2018 valid until 2018-03-18". We're off to a good start, 4 months out of date already!
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Post by tamz on Jul 9, 2018 17:34:39 GMT -5
Kelley and Emily got the first round bye. Both the teams they could play against look doable. Hope they get into the main draw! Then there will be 5 USA women’s teams in.
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Post by cbrmatt on Jul 9, 2018 23:33:55 GMT -5
Gstaad Beachstream purchased and the receipt says "BeachStream Gstaad 2018 valid until 2018-03-18". We're off to a good start, 4 months out of date already! Does the betting site still work for this or is the Beachstream the only way to watch? I bought the Beachstream for FTL and it was suboptimal.
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Post by bvbfan88 on Jul 10, 2018 1:27:23 GMT -5
Gstaad Beachstream purchased and the receipt says "BeachStream Gstaad 2018 valid until 2018-03-18". We're off to a good start, 4 months out of date already! Does the betting site still work for this or is the Beachstream the only way to watch? I bought the Beachstream for FTL and it was suboptimal. The betting site streams will still be there. Most of the time its the same stream just in a lower resolution. Yeah the FTL coverage was a bit rubbish. But as they promised lots of bells and whistles I thought I'd give it another go. No doubt at the end of the week I'll be ranting how rubbish it is again...
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Post by bvbfan88 on Jul 10, 2018 1:41:49 GMT -5
I've just had a look at the event schedule ( ch.beachmajorseries.com/en/1351/gstaad-major-2017-tournament-schedule?active=Matches) A couple of odd quirks. Normally (always?) the Mens medal matches take place AFTER the Women's. For some reason it has been flipped so that the women are last. Also - Men's SF2 is listed for 1.45pm and the Bronze match 5.15pm. So with a 1 hour SF2 that's a 2.5 hour break. Not too bad. But for the women... SF2 at 11am and the Bronze is listed at 1.30pm. Surely there must be some regulation that gives a minimum rest time. Otherwise if you have a lose a long and tough SF2, you'll be guaranteed to lose the bronze.
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Post by cbrmatt on Jul 10, 2018 3:28:43 GMT -5
Does the betting site still work for this or is the Beachstream the only way to watch? I bought the Beachstream for FTL and it was suboptimal. The betting site streams will still be there. Most of the time its the same stream just in a lower resolution. Yeah the FTL coverage was a bit rubbish. But as they promised lots of bells and whistles I thought I'd give it another go. No doubt at the end of the week I'll be ranting how rubbish it is again... I have no issue paying for better coverage and if the reviews are positive, I will purchase it for Vienna in a few weeks. The other thing that was frustrating is I would email support and they wouldn't reply at all. Almost like they knew they had issues but they had no answers for it.
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Post by bvbfan88 on Jul 10, 2018 5:50:31 GMT -5
The betting site streams will still be there. Most of the time its the same stream just in a lower resolution. Yeah the FTL coverage was a bit rubbish. But as they promised lots of bells and whistles I thought I'd give it another go. No doubt at the end of the week I'll be ranting how rubbish it is again... I have no issue paying for better coverage and if the reviews are positive. Well so far Centre Court coverage gives you a static camera that bounces up and down whenever somebody walks past it. Last week in Espinho the YouTube FIVB Volleyball channel provided full camera coverage of qualification matches complete with live & replay options - but didn't charge for it.
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Post by donnyw on Jul 10, 2018 5:51:57 GMT -5
Arrived in Gstaad!!! Beautiful place!! Ready to get my volleyball & sightseeing on...Won’t watch any VB until main draw...
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Post by tamz on Jul 10, 2018 7:12:21 GMT -5
Arrived in Gstaad!!! Beautiful place!! Ready to get my volleyball & sightseeing on...Won’t watch any VB until main draw... Wow! Lucky you! Support the ATeam for me! Enjoy and keep us posted!
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Post by tamz on Jul 10, 2018 7:13:29 GMT -5
I've just had a look at the event schedule ( ch.beachmajorseries.com/en/1351/gstaad-major-2017-tournament-schedule?active=Matches) A couple of odd quirks. Normally (always?) the Mens medal matches take place AFTER the Women's. For some reason it has been flipped so that the women are last. Also - Men's SF2 is listed for 1.45pm and the Bronze match 5.15pm. So with a 1 hour SF2 that's a 2.5 hour break. Not too bad. But for the women... SF2 at 11am and the Bronze is listed at 1.30pm. Surely there must be some regulation that gives a minimum rest time. Otherwise if you have a win a long and tough SF2, you'll be guaranteed to lose the final. The only other time I remember men finishing first was FTL Major 2017.
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