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Post by Millennium on Jun 30, 2018 9:25:00 GMT -5
Final - VNL Match # 130
USA vs Turkey Date: 7-01-18
Times: 19:00 (Local); 11:00 (GMT); 07:00 (ET); 04:00 (PT)
Location: Nanjing(China)
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Post by floridaLOG on Jun 30, 2018 9:42:22 GMT -5
For those who haven’t watched the semis this title is a spoiler
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Post by Millennium on Jun 30, 2018 9:47:25 GMT -5
For those who haven’t watched the semis this title is a spoiler Fixed it. |
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Post by jay on Jun 30, 2018 12:29:33 GMT -5
The European forums have no respect for Karch as a coach. I'm thinking Karch starts the same starting six as against China and has Hill as a backup for Larson and I think they take it 3-1
Although Larson's leash may be a little shorter now.
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But since they didnt qualify, let's talk about the finalists: USA x Turkey.
In one side, you have a talented and experienced team, but with a low-level trainer in the bench. In the other side, a young talented team, but with a master-class trainer.
First two matches were decided in the tie-break. Let's hope it will be the same tomorrow
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Post by akbar on Jun 30, 2018 12:52:40 GMT -5
The European forums have no respect for Karch as a coach. I'm thinking Karch starts the same starting six as against China and has Hill as a backup for Larson and I think they take it 3-1 Although Larson's leash may be a little shorter now. Quote: But since they didnt qualify, let's talk about the finalists: USA x Turkey. In one side, you have a talented and experienced team, but with a low-level trainer in the bench. In the other side, a young talented team, but with a master-class trainer. First two matches were decided in the tie-break. Let's hope it will be the same tomorrow He should start those 6. Larson's leash should NOT get any shorter....no different than Lloyd's the other day. They are starters and bring the most experience. That said it is impressive how well the USA bench has answered the bell this tourney and a GREAT sign of a special team. The coaching staff has done a very nice job. perhaps they will make a lineup change based on matchups with Turkey. If so that is a nice option to have. Larson, Bartch and Hill are nice options. Go USA ....win it all. |
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Post by Reach on Jun 30, 2018 13:42:36 GMT -5
I’m still disappointed that we don’t set more balls to the middle and right side. We’re so pattern that teams will eventually adapt. Somethings gotta give.
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Post by Pipe Attack on Jun 30, 2018 13:47:54 GMT -5
I’m still disappointed that we don’t set more balls to the middle and right side. We’re so pattern that teams will eventually adapt. Somethings gotta give. People had the same criticisms with Glass. (and now Lloyd). Is it due to the design of their system? |
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Post by Reach on Jun 30, 2018 15:01:46 GMT -5
I’m still disappointed that we don’t set more balls to the middle and right side. We’re so pattern that teams will eventually adapt. Somethings gotta give. People had the same criticisms with Glass. (and now Lloyd). Is it due to the design of their system? Not in 2013-15 |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2018 18:25:58 GMT -5
If USA win I think M.B.H takes MVP.
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Post by ironhammer on Jun 30, 2018 20:25:55 GMT -5
The European forums have no respect for Karch as a coach. I'm thinking Karch starts the same starting six as against China and has Hill as a backup for Larson and I think they take it 3-1 Although Larson's leash may be a little shorter now. Quote: But since they didnt qualify, let's talk about the finalists: USA x Turkey. In one side, you have a talented and experienced team, but with a low-level trainer in the bench. In the other side, a young talented team, but with a master-class trainer. First two matches were decided in the tie-break. Let's hope it will be the same tomorrow You just can't give any credit to Karch can you? Not one bit eh? You think Karch was just along for the ride while the US plays itself to the Championship game? |
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Post by ironhammer on Jun 30, 2018 20:28:44 GMT -5
If USA win I think M.B.H takes MVP. She should. But that's only if I am calling the shots. FIVB...they sometimes have other ideas.  |
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Post by Gilmoy on Jun 30, 2018 20:48:23 GMT -5
The European forums ... Quote: You just can't give any credit to Karch can you? Not one bit eh? You think Karch was just along for the ride while the US plays itself to the Championship game? He's actually quoting from some Euro forums. It could have been formatted better, to eliminate exactly this confusion.
I thought the actual quote was amusing.
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Post by ironhammer on Jun 30, 2018 20:50:56 GMT -5
The European forums ... Quote: You just can't give any credit to Karch can you? Not one bit eh? You think Karch was just along for the ride while the US plays itself to the Championship game? He's actually quoting from some Euro forums. It could have been formatted better, to eliminate exactly this confusion.
I thought the actual quote was amusing.
Well, his own opinion and the Euro forum opinion...are they really so far apart? I don't about that... |
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 30, 2018 21:31:37 GMT -5
The European forums have no respect for Karch as a coach. I'm thinking Karch starts the same starting six as against China and has Hill as a backup for Larson and I think they take it 3-1 Although Larson's leash may be a little shorter now. Quote: But since they didnt qualify, let's talk about the finalists: USA x Turkey. In one side, you have a talented and experienced team, but with a low-level trainer in the bench. In the other side, a young talented team, but with a master-class trainer. First two matches were decided in the tie-break. Let's hope it will be the same tomorrow You just can't give any credit to Karch can you? Not one bit eh? You think Karch was just along for the ride while the US plays itself to the Championship game? Why don't you just give Karch all the credit for us? And why do you care so much that Karch isn't liked or respected so much as a coach? Karch isn't just along for the ride. He's in it to claim a legacy--for himself, for USAV, and, perhaps still, for Doug Beal. Karch's M.O. is abundantly clear: push the fast, robotic system continuously to wear out opponents. There isn't anything innovative or inspiring in that system any longer, it's just a race to the finish, and it doesn't require coaching as much as having enough horses widgets athletes to see it through. It's a stingy and short-sighted approach. We have some of the most physically talented volleyball athletes in the world. I would like for them to be (or become) the most skilled volleyball players in the world as well. That's not happening under Karch. |
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Post by ironhammer on Jun 30, 2018 21:42:52 GMT -5
You just can't give any credit to Karch can you? Not one bit eh? You think Karch was just along for the ride while the US plays itself to the Championship game? Why don't you just give Karch all the credit for us? And why do you care so much that Karch isn't liked or respected so much as a coach? Karch isn't just along for the ride. He's in it to claim a legacy--for himself, for USAV, and, perhaps still, for Doug Beal. Karch's M.O. is abundantly clear: push the fast, robotic system continuously to wear out opponents. There isn't anything innovative or inspiring in that system any longer, it's just a race to the finish, and it doesn't require coaching as much as having enough horses widgets athletes to see it through. It's a stingy and short-sighted approach. We have some of the most physically talented volleyball athletes in the world. I would like for them to be (or become) the most skilled volleyball players in the world as well. That's not happening under Karch. I prefer a little balance. Give credit where it is due. The usual "Karch-has-nothing-to-do-with-USA-victories-but-everything-to-do-with-their-losses" just don't strike me as a very normal and balanced way to evaluate his performance. Like the match against China or Turkey. You usual suspects will just say it was simply because we had good players, the coach has NOTHING to do with that. But when the US loses, oh it must be Karch's fault. Oh Please. |
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