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Post by Courtside5 on May 5, 2019 4:23:26 GMT -5
Not really a coincidence when last years NC match was also held at the Pyramid. But yeah, still sucks! Wasn't it held at the Pauly Pavilion at UCLA? The Big West Conference Tournament championship was at the Pyramid though. Never mind, I just saw the other comment. Yeah, got those two mixed up. So bummed 🙁 still having a few drinks to dull the pain.
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Post by ACE on May 5, 2019 10:19:23 GMT -5
Last year was played at UCLA...but that time the home team didn't win. Hawaii simply got outplayed tonight because they folded. If it wasn't for that 7 point lead in set one, this would've been a sweep by the Beach. I get the whole home court, but if you want to be the best...then you beat the best. Hawaii was oh-fer at the Pyramid with this group of Seniors...just 2-10 overall against LB. Oops yeah you’re right. My bad. But yeah you’re right again. Wanna be the best gotta beat the best. Warriors just choked when it mattered most. How many times has that happened. I lost count... Even as close as the set was, you could just see the composure of LB vs Hawaii. Hawaii was very tentative and I just didn't understand why. I really thought they were going to come out and play to win....they played not to lose.
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Post by 2left on May 5, 2019 18:08:14 GMT -5
Oops yeah you’re right. My bad. But yeah you’re right again. Wanna be the best gotta beat the best. Warriors just choked when it mattered most. How many times has that happened. I lost count... Even as close as the set was, you could just see the composure of LB vs Hawaii. Hawaii was very tentative and I just didn't understand why. I really thought they were going to come out and play to win....they played not to lose. LBSU'S relative composure was due to the loud home crowd. If this was at the Stan, the situation would have been reversed. That's why NBA teams fight so hard for home court advantage.
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Post by Courtside5 on May 5, 2019 18:35:02 GMT -5
Oops yeah you’re right. My bad. But yeah you’re right again. Wanna be the best gotta beat the best. Warriors just choked when it mattered most. How many times has that happened. I lost count... Even as close as the set was, you could just see the composure of LB vs Hawaii. Hawaii was very tentative and I just didn't understand why. I really thought they were going to come out and play to win....they played not to lose. They put all the pressure on themselves. They should have played with more confidence and shown everyone there why they won the BWCT. The total number of pts they lost by was what 8 pts? Most of those points were freebies because of bad serves or aces. Wasted opportunity..
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Post by Courtside5 on May 5, 2019 19:08:04 GMT -5
Even as close as the set was, you could just see the composure of LB vs Hawaii. Hawaii was very tentative and I just didn't understand why. I really thought they were going to come out and play to win....they played not to lose. LBSU'S relative composure was due to the loud home crowd. If this was at the Stan, the situation would have been reversed. That's why NBA teams fight so hard for home court advantage. In volleyball fighting for HC advantage doesn’t usually guarantee you one. Well in Hawaii’s case that is.
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Post by kolohekeiki on May 5, 2019 19:26:28 GMT -5
Hawai`i did not choke in the championship match. Long Beach State is an amazing team and deserved to win. They are just the better team plain and simple. They have big time players that play the bigger points better.
You could see the difference in body language throughout the match. When Hawai`i is not playing with all the hype and energy they aren't going to win against Long Beach. They started off strong with all that hype and energy, but then it was all lost and we did not see that again throughout the match. Maybe a glimpse in the 3rd set when we went up 5-0, but that energy was quickly lost.
But nonetheless this was an amazing run by the Warriors and they still will go down as one of the best teams in school history. In any other year I'm sure the Warriors would have won the championship. It just so happened they came up against one of, if not the best team in Long Beach history with some of the greatest players in their history.
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Post by ACE on May 5, 2019 19:28:39 GMT -5
So, question moving forward. Did Hawaii put in a bid, or do they have plans to put in a bid to host the National Championships in the next 5 years?
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Post by kahusancali on May 6, 2019 10:25:36 GMT -5
Per Cindy, 3824 in attendance on Saturday. A number of students were escorted out because of profanity and inappropriate comments
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Post by kahusancali on May 6, 2019 10:35:40 GMT -5
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Post by Volleyfan024 on May 6, 2019 11:15:25 GMT -5
So, question moving forward. Did Hawaii put in a bid, or do they have plans to put in a bid to host the National Championships in the next 5 years? The next 3 sites are already determined. Next year at George Mason, then Ohio State, and then UCLA. Usually it is 5 years in advance because it is used as a recruiting tool (this Long Beach group knew the tournament would be on their home court their senior year when they arrived on campus as freshmen).
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Post by 2left on May 6, 2019 14:45:33 GMT -5
LBSU'S relative composure was due to the loud home crowd. If this was at the Stan, the situation would have been reversed. That's why NBA teams fight so hard for home court advantage. In volleyball fighting for HC advantage doesn’t usually guarantee you one. Well in Hawaii’s case that is. Of course, fighting never gets you home court in the Tournament. Just a little tough luck this year.
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Post by Wolfgang on May 6, 2019 15:04:53 GMT -5
Home court advantage was huge for LBSU, but I had some doubts about whether Hawaii could beat LBSU. So, despite the record-breaking historic season, I was not completely confident they could beat LBSU. Hawaii has, historically, never had any player who WILLED their team to victory like a T.J. DeFalco. I can't name any Hawaii player on any Hawaii team -- men's or women's -- who WILLED their team to victory. I don't know why. Maybe it's the laid back atmosphere or maybe those types of rare players traditionally don't pick Hawaii or maybe the supporting cast just wasn't good enough for these stellar superstars to really shine, see, e.g., Emily Hartong, Kanoa Kamana'o, Anthony Carter, Yuval Katz. Who knows?
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Post by volleyballbro (guru) on May 6, 2019 16:07:29 GMT -5
Home court advantage was huge for LBSU, but I had some doubts about whether Hawaii could beat LBSU. So, despite the record-breaking historic season, I was not completely confident they could beat LBSU. Hawaii has, historically, never had any player who WILLED their team to victory like a T.J. DeFalco. I can't name any Hawaii player on any Hawaii team -- men's or women's -- who WILLED their team to victory. I don't know why. Maybe it's the laid back atmosphere or maybe those types of rare players traditionally don't pick Hawaii or maybe the supporting cast just wasn't good enough for these stellar superstars to really shine, see, e.g., Emily Hartong, Kanoa Kamana'o, Anthony Carter, Yuval Katz. Who knows? costas man... he was something else jonas umlauft was another if we crossing sports, it would be kim W for womens over kanoe and tee. i wouldnt say colt b, but rather sopoaga on the d line was the greatest or tats on the mound willed hawaii to unreal victories
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Post by volleyballbro (guru) on May 6, 2019 16:15:13 GMT -5
Bows are strong at OOS plays this year, Joe is great at improv, smooth enough that you don't often realize they are playing OOS. Lets have some fun, looking at position by position of IMO Hawaii's greatest players from the past and comparing them to current starting roster, who is better? And assuming these legends could be brought back to their playing age, should these teams face off, who would win? UV Katz OPP vs Rado Parapunov Clay Stanley OH vs Stijn Van Tilburg Costas Theocharidis OH vs Colton Cowell Dejan Miladinovic MB vs Patrick Gasman Taylor Averill MB vs Dalton Solbrig Alfie Reft L vs Gage Worsley Jennings Franciskovic S vs Joe Worsley a clear example of recency bias when we look back in retrospect... i hope everyone can see now why i "fell out of my chair and almost broke da neck" when i first read these comparisons no doubt was this UH team great, but comparing them to the legends was premature. sorry goblin, i dont mean to put you on the spot. its just i needed to reference the original post for my comment
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Post by goblin on May 6, 2019 17:00:49 GMT -5
No hard feelings Volleyballbro, the comparisons were meant to trigger controversy and active discussions during a lull in postings which it accomplished. A sobering fact is that aside from Costas (one brief moment before the NC was null and void), none of the current and former players were able to win a NC trophy. As much as we struggled with blocking, serving, and setting... it was still a tight match, if just one of those is working, we would be celebrating versus commiserating right now. I see great things ahead for this team next year.
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