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UCLA
Dec 10, 2019 18:18:54 GMT -5
Post by volleyguy on Dec 10, 2019 18:18:54 GMT -5
UCLA has an outstanding Libero on their roster. But, they used her to play OH. THAT I'll agree with! Savvy is first class and she actually WAS playing libero back in spring practices. But it was decided that Barry was good enough to hold down the position. I'm hoping there is a better option next year. It's confounding. Sealy could literally just walk across campus and find a better libero as a walk-on.
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 10, 2019 18:28:54 GMT -5
It's confounding. Sealy could literally just walk across campus and find a better libero as a walk-on. Hah that might be a SLIGHT exaggeration but the thing with Barry has always been her SR is better than her defense (her court coverage is very poor) but for whatever reason, this year that's been average at best. And the fact that Hinkle couldn't unseat her permanently (even though Barry got benched more than once) reflects badly on Hinkle. And, again, UCLA has a FANTASTIC ball control player in Simo and a decent one (with an AA arm) in Mac. The limitation at Libero has really stunted the offense this year imo. I sincerely hope it gets fixed next year. A player of Mac's quality deserves a decent supporting cast, especially now that Savvy is done. There are tons of kids at UCLA who played high level club volleyball. It's not really that great of an exaggeration when one considers Barry's actual performance.
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UCLA
Dec 10, 2019 18:41:29 GMT -5
Post by volleyguy on Dec 10, 2019 18:41:29 GMT -5
There are tons of kids at UCLA who played high level club volleyball. It's not really that great of an exaggeration when one considers Barry's actual performance. Again, I'm not disagreeing with the conclusion. Especially when you saw what Annie Benbow did having taken over for Barry at SD. I didn't understand why UCLA took her in the first place but I sincerely hoped she'd prove me wrong. But the numbers don't lie, she's had a disappointing year. The more disappointing thing is that Hinkle is on scholarship and DID play high level club and that she was objectively worse than Barry. I wouldn't give up on Hinkle yet, but I would expect Sealy to look for a starting Libero to come in & take the spot. To be clear, I think the situation says more about Sealy and how he manages his training and team than it does about these players. In that regard, I don't necessarily see it getting better, despite the turnaround this season.
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Post by dunninla3 on Dec 10, 2019 18:57:56 GMT -5
you know, if Sealy weren't such a prick, several of the Beach defenders would have been willing to step in and help if asked. But there is no way in hell Simo or May would have had much good to say about the guy if asked. Now if Keller were the coach next year, different story entirely.
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UCLA
Dec 10, 2019 21:20:21 GMT -5
Post by gobruins on Dec 10, 2019 21:20:21 GMT -5
Again, I'm not disagreeing with the conclusion. Especially when you saw what Annie Benbow did having taken over for Barry at SD. I didn't understand why UCLA took her in the first place but I sincerely hoped she'd prove me wrong. But the numbers don't lie, she's had a disappointing year. The more disappointing thing is that Hinkle is on scholarship and DID play high level club and that she was objectively worse than Barry. I wouldn't give up on Hinkle yet, but I would expect Sealy to look for a starting Libero to come in & take the spot. To be clear, I think the situation says more about Sealy and how he manages his training and team than it does about these players. In that regard, I don't necessarily see it getting better, despite the turnaround this season. In the 10 years that Sealy has been the coach, UCLA has had long line of terrific Liberos and Defensive Specialists (Lainey Gera, Bo Todorovic, Meg Norton, Karly Drolson, Rachel Inouye, Taylor Formico, Zana Muno, Savvy Simo). This year, for the first time, the position was a problem. And, you think that is because of how Sealy "manages his training". If Sealy was such a poor trainer of L/DS's, why have their been so many good ones playing for him?
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UCLA
Dec 10, 2019 21:41:57 GMT -5
Post by volleyguy on Dec 10, 2019 21:41:57 GMT -5
To be clear, I think the situation says more about Sealy and how he manages his training and team than it does about these players. In that regard, I don't necessarily see it getting better, despite the turnaround this season. In the 10 years that Sealy has been the coach, UCLA has had long line of terrific Liberos and Defensive Specialists (Lainey Gera, Bo Todorovic, Meg Norton, Karly Drolson, Rachel Inouye, Taylor Formico, Zana Muno, Savvy Simo). This year, for the first time, the position was a problem. And, you think that is because of how Sealy "manages his training". If Sealy was such a poor trainer of L/DS's, why have their been so many good ones playing for him? Maybe because he's been terrible at managing every other position?
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Post by emmettgera on Dec 10, 2019 21:52:10 GMT -5
I’m dumb and still have no idea how to post/attach pictures to this forum, but here’s some copy-pasted statuses from 8 years ago when I was a freshman at UCLA. Brought to you by that lovely Facebook feature that reminds you that On This Day, 7 years ago, you posted this dumb status... these examples being the rare exceptions.
December 9th, 2011 UCLA Women's Volleyball just took down last year’s champs, Penn State, in the NCAA Volleyball tournament.. On to the elite 8! Lets go Bruins!
December 10th, 2011: UCLA Women's volleyball just beat the #1 seed, the Texas Longhorns, which means that they are now in the semifinals for the NCAA Women's Volleyball Championship..
That year set me up with unrealistic expectations as a fan of this team. Omg. lol
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UCLA
Dec 10, 2019 21:56:11 GMT -5
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Post by TuesdayGone on Dec 10, 2019 21:56:11 GMT -5
you know, if Sealy weren't such a prick, several of the Beach defenders would have been willing to step in and help if asked. But there is no way in hell Simo or May would have had much good to say about the guy if asked. Now if Keller were the coach next year, different story entirely. So Mac May doesn’t like the coach? Makes sense for May to transfer to Wisconsin! Her family was able to come watch her last weekend in Madison cause they only live 90 minutes away. And With May Wisconsin would return at least 5 All Americans for next year and be overwhelming favorite Next year. .
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UCLA
Dec 10, 2019 21:59:43 GMT -5
Post by dunninla3 on Dec 10, 2019 21:59:43 GMT -5
^ May has two NCAA championship rings from the UCLA Beach program, under an actually effective coach named Stein Metzger. Will have a good chance to pick up a third ring this coming May, where UCLA has a better chance than any other team to win again, in a 3-peat.
UCLA Beach has such a stacked lineup that there is no guarantee that May, or transfer AA OH Jacqueline Quade, will crack the top 5 pairs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 21:59:51 GMT -5
I see the problems this year were that Simo had to be moved up to OH because we did not have another talented OH. The middles were inexperienced and under used but they got better as the year wore on. And the setter situation stinks. There is a lot of work to be done. But I felt proud of the team f orpulling together toward the end of the year in spite of these problems.
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Post by dunninla3 on Dec 10, 2019 22:02:59 GMT -5
I felt proud of the team pulling together to the end of the year in spite of the problems. With all the talk about the problems at the top, the players themselves rallied around Keller and made a real season of it. I'm proud of them too. They've learned lessons that will pay dividends the rest of their lives.
(mac)Kenzie May, 1st Team PAC12 and possible 1st Team AA
Savannah Simo, 1st Team PAC12, and possible HM AA
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UCLA
Dec 11, 2019 12:29:37 GMT -5
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Post by pac12fan on Dec 11, 2019 12:29:37 GMT -5
I agree that the Libero position was one of the weak links this season. I don’t think it’s logical to compare the hundreds of passes of Barry to a couple dozen balls by a freshman coming off the bench. I thought the only way you could see team analytics was if you were a coach/player of the team. Maybe this has changed. Although, I know from the past that internal serve receive stats are more accurate. I can’t tell you how many times passes were assigned to people who didn’t even play or not assigned correctly after a Libero change. I ’m sure they’ll figure out the Libero situation. IMO, serve receive wasn’t the biggest issue anyway. It was the lack of a consistent block (which would improve the dig conversion that you mentioned) and the need for a strong Opp. Volleymetrics is the analytics service used by UCLA and most D1 colleges along with national and professional teams. Everyone with a direct affiliation to such a program (coach, player or administrator) receives a login. It provides some pretty interesting data that gives insight into players and teams. The games are coded by professionals and the margin for error is low. That said, Barry's sample size on SR IS larger but the coaches are in practice every day and, given Barry's struggles, if a Hinkle was outperforming her, Hinkle would be starting. I've known both girls thru the club system in SoCal and I'd expected Hinkle to perform better. I can share a more detailed statistical breakdown of where they've each struggled defensively if anyone wants it but the headline is that the Libero position has been a weakness all season and I'd expect Sealy to look for an upgrade during the off season. In other words, Moneyball has come to D1 women’s volleyball and players are reduced to data points.
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UCLA
Dec 11, 2019 13:40:39 GMT -5
Post by bigfan on Dec 11, 2019 13:40:39 GMT -5
you know, if Sealy weren't such a prick, several of the Beach defenders would have been willing to step in and help if asked. But there is no way in hell Simo or May would have had much good to say about the guy if asked. Now if Keller were the coach next year, different story entirely. Simo still has a year to play at UCLA correct?
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UCLA
Dec 11, 2019 13:57:00 GMT -5
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Post by tallgirlsdig2 on Dec 11, 2019 13:57:00 GMT -5
..... makes me think Sealy is going to try and bring in an upgrade (and there are already some good ones in the portal). Since you have all the access, please do tell who is in the portal. Let’s remember that Barry herself was Libero on a Sweet 16 team. Sometimes it’s better to develop what you have. Pendergast is more than capable of doing just that.
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Post by tallgirlsdig2 on Dec 11, 2019 14:16:00 GMT -5
you know, if Sealy weren't such a prick, several of the Beach defenders would have been willing to step in and help if asked. But there is no way in hell Simo or May would have had much good to say about the guy if asked. Now if Keller were the coach next year, different story entirely. Simo still has a year to play at UCLA correct? Simo has one year of beach left. She played on the 2016-2019 indoor teams.
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