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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 10:48:18 GMT -5
Just my opinion, but she went from a practice player/back up to a player that could do very well in the ACC and compete for a spot immediately. The pin depth is shaping up to be fun. Honestly asking, have you even seen Peck play live? I believe she was a recruit of the new staff and since at least last club season it was very apparent that she had all the athletic potential to be an ACC-caliber player (albeit a late bloomer). Yes, I have seen her play, three times to be exact. I just see that her overall game seems to have stepped up and be more polished. I honestly did not see her challenging Cox, Harrison, or Austin for any significant playing time the first time I saw her, but since then I see that she has taken a level up. I think she was an ACC caliber player the first time I saw her, but not ACC dominant caliber. Now, I think she is that good.
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Post by volleyusa on Feb 12, 2019 22:24:21 GMT -5
Peck always had the physical tools. I've watched her on and off since she moved to the Charlotte area in 8th grade (I believe) - my daughter played at CJV when Peck joined. Peck switched to CUVC her Junior year after leaving CJV in part due to, let's just call it entitlement issues with her and a couple other players. She has grown considerably the past two years at CUVC so something clicked with her or with coaching or with both. She didn't play HS ball this past Fall so it's good to hear she hasn't lost much of a step this club season. I still think she should be redshirted given the talent at the pins but I guess we will see. or maybe she left because CUVC is a much better club than CJV when it comes to training. Which is why she has taken her game to a higher level since switching clubs.
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Post by trainermch on Feb 12, 2019 23:38:17 GMT -5
Peck always had the physical tools. I've watched her on and off since she moved to the Charlotte area in 8th grade (I believe) - my daughter played at CJV when Peck joined. Peck switched to CUVC her Junior year after leaving CJV in part due to, let's just call it entitlement issues with her and a couple other players. She has grown considerably the past two years at CUVC so something clicked with her or with coaching or with both. She didn't play HS ball this past Fall so it's good to hear she hasn't lost much of a step this club season. I still think she should be redshirted given the talent at the pins but I guess we will see. or maybe she left because CUVC is a much better club than CJV when it comes to training. Which is why she has taken her game to a higher level since switching clubs. Thank you for this. I had a couple of different comments but I kept deleting them. You stated it very well...and accurately.
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Post by mervinswerved on Feb 13, 2019 6:56:24 GMT -5
Yeah, those two clubs aren't operating at the same level these days.
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Post by leftyopp on Feb 13, 2019 9:29:44 GMT -5
CJV and CUVC alternate almost yearly with respect to which has the better talent at certain age groups.
Currently, CUVC has more talent at the 18's for sure.
It's cool... you don't have to agree. I didn't say it was the only reason, but I have good insight into the 16's that Peck played on at CJV. I'm sure there are multiple versions of the truth, and it was two years ago, so shouldn't really matter now. It appears Peck has grown considerably and that is a positive and all that matters.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 11:29:19 GMT -5
CJV was very good at times and have down years recently like a lot of clubs. CUVC has been on the rise in my opinion. I think it is good for the sport in NC.
I like that we are not getting Peck and Austin until the fall.....that may be a weird thing to say. But with Cox, Harrison, Wine, and LaGarde, that is enough outsides to train in the spring to get quality reps. Those 4 need some individual work and I think adding Austin and Peck in the fall will further strengthen the team. Austin is ready to go full rotation and I think Peck is on her way there. If there is a position to be excited about it is definitely the outsides. I think this year the outsides will not been seen as error prone and timid, but very physical.
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Post by trainermch on Feb 13, 2019 17:49:15 GMT -5
CJV and CUVC alternate almost yearly with respect to which has the better talent at certain age groups. Currently, CUVC has more talent at the 18's for sure. It's cool... you don't have to agree. I didn't say it was the only reason, but I have good insight into the 16's that Peck played on at CJV. I'm sure there are multiple versions of the truth, and it was two years ago, so shouldn't really matter now. It appears Peck has grown considerably and that is a positive and all that matters. Your comment was definitely not about club comparison. You had an axe to grind and wanted to say something about a kid. You said it. Others propose that it wasn’t entitlement that sent her and her family packing, but a move upward in club quality. Seems to have benefitted her and was therefore the best choice. Based on your op about her move, it would seem you would be happy. Yet you still seem bitter.
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Post by leftyopp on Feb 13, 2019 21:47:20 GMT -5
CJV and CUVC alternate almost yearly with respect to which has the better talent at certain age groups. Currently, CUVC has more talent at the 18's for sure. It's cool... you don't have to agree. I didn't say it was the only reason, but I have good insight into the 16's that Peck played on at CJV. I'm sure there are multiple versions of the truth, and it was two years ago, so shouldn't really matter now. It appears Peck has grown considerably and that is a positive and all that matters. Your comment was definitely not about club comparison. You had an axe to grind and wanted to say something about a kid. You said it. Others propose that it wasn’t entitlement that sent her and her family packing, but a move upward in club quality. Seems to have benefitted her and was therefore the best choice. Based on your op about her move, it would seem you would be happy. Yet you still seem bitter. Ugh... this is utterly absurd. There is no axe to grind, good grief. No one is bitter. It is what it was. Lighten up Francis. There was a history. Many clubs deal with it. There are three other girls on the current CUVC 18's that were on that CJV team. One other moved to Carolina Rouge... some aren't playing this season. Only one girl from that team stayed with CJV and is on the 18's this year.
Obviously, something went wrong with that team such that they didn't stay together. There's a different coach for the 18's this year then there was for that 16's team (CJV usually sticks with a coach from 15-18).
Talent shifts between the Charlotte clubs every few years. Four years ago (2015) CJV was on top with their 18's team led by Scoles. The 2016 & 2017 18's had better talent led by Virginia's Sara Billiard and Raleigh Clark. The 2018 18's would have been led by Taylor Rowland but she enrolled early at Auburn. Before Scoles's year, CUVC was the more talented club, and now they have more talent again. They moved their operation to a better location a couple years ago to upgraded facilities so that has helped them. It also forced CJV to modify their facility - for the better as well. Carolina Rouge didn't exist until this year (or maybe last year).
Anyway... despite your analysis, I'm all good. Peck has grown considerably the past two years and I'm happy for her. I am rooting for her success and hope it translates into team success.
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Post by trainermch on Feb 13, 2019 23:11:02 GMT -5
Your comment was definitely not about club comparison. You had an axe to grind and wanted to say something about a kid. You said it. Others propose that it wasn’t entitlement that sent her and her family packing, but a move upward in club quality. Seems to have benefitted her and was therefore the best choice. Based on your op about her move, it would seem you would be happy. Yet you still seem bitter. Ugh... this is utterly absurd. There is no axe to grind, good grief. No one is bitter. It is what it was. Lighten up Francis. There was a history. Many clubs deal with it. There are three other girls on the current CUVC 18's that were on that CJV team. One other moved to Carolina Rouge... some aren't playing this season. Only one girl from that team stayed with CJV and is on the 18's this year.
Obviously, something went wrong with that team such that they didn't stay together. There's a different coach for the 18's this year then there was for that 16's team (CJV usually sticks with a coach from 15-18).
Talent shifts between the Charlotte clubs every few years. Four years ago (2015) CJV was on top with their 18's team led by Scoles. The 2016 & 2017 18's had better talent led by Virginia's Sara Billiard and Raleigh Clark. The 2018 18's would have been led by Taylor Rowland but she enrolled early at Auburn. Before Scoles's year, CUVC was the more talented club, and now they have more talent again. They moved their operation to a better location a couple years ago to upgraded facilities so that has helped them. It also forced CJV to modify their facility - for the better as well. Carolina Rouge didn't exist until this year (or maybe last year).
Anyway... despite your analysis, I'm all good. Peck has grown considerably the past two years and I'm happy for her. I am rooting for her success and hope it translates into team success.
I agree that it is absurd. You are the one who called her out for leaving on let’s just say entitlement issues, not I. I’m light as a feather. I’m glad you’ve healed. Good luck to Peck!
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Post by leftyopp on Feb 14, 2019 15:18:22 GMT -5
Lol... yep, I'm all "heeled" up, thanks for caring... Good talk. Like I said, it is what it was with many and now it isn't.
I'm ending this since it is a waste of cycles and deterring from more important topics.
Moving on... Spring matches coming soon... looking forward to seeing Howard and Harrison on the court. Anyone seen a schedule yet?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 11:29:13 GMT -5
According to her school, Olivia Diaz has now "officially" signed.
Hearing the rest of the class will be announced next month.
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Post by bvolley17 on Feb 15, 2019 13:46:16 GMT -5
Spring schedule:
March 6: UNC vs. NC State (Carmichael; 8:30 am)
March 23: UNC vs. Penn State (Flint High School, Oakton, VA; 1 pm)
March 30: Coastal Virginia Volleyball Collegiate Tournament (Tidewater Volleyball, Virginia Beach; 10 am)
April 14: Carolina Spring Tournament vs. Duke, James Madison, High Point, Wake Forest (Carmichael; 11 am)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 14:02:06 GMT -5
Really like this spring schedule......some really good teams and some winnable games.
Will be interesting to see UNC and NCSU. UNC has a better spring roster and better talent IMO.
Penn State is young but loaded with talent. This will be the toughest test over the spring for this growing team.
UNC tournament features a strong JMU team, and Duke should be competitive.
Harrison and Howard will make an immediate impact.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:11:02 GMT -5
Looked at the film from this year some and then some of the new recruits. With less than 2 weeks UNTIL SPRING, these are a few things I would watch for this spring...
1. Who assumes the role in the middle?
North Carolina has traditionally been known as a middle dominant team. Last year, Carolina had one middle who could block but not produce offensively (Esterly), and another middle who could provide offense but could not block (Bell). Those are some big issues with balance. Many times last year, the defense was left out to dry and could not dig anything because the blocking scheme was so off balance or there was a lack of terminating because most teams knew when Esterly was in front, the ball was going to a pin. Enter stage....Skyy Howard. Howard is a total package. She is long, athletic, and moves very well. Howard may be that player to return to Carolina tradition who can terminate and also put up a wall at the net. Ranked the #31 recruit in the country, she has the accolades to get fans excited. Esterly is a solid blocker, but Raleigh Clark deserves the time. Clark has international experience in the USA HP Pipeline and is a great asset. Last year in the matches she was given chance, she hit at a high percentage, could run the slide effectively, and blocked very well. I want to see a duo of Clark and Howard get some playing time this spring. Tontai is also a good offensive player, and could see more time if she improves in her blocking.
2. How will the pin situation be split/decided?
North Carolina will be loaded on the pins come the fall, but until then there are still several different combinations the coaching staff can test. Skylar Wine came on strong in some games, but was streaky in others. She eventually transitioned to a 6 rotation player and did okay. While at Pacific, she played some on the RS and with a vacancy there, she may be needed. However, her defense was better than Cox.....enter Cox. Cox was stellar in big games. But she struggled immensely most of the season. If there was hope for UNC fans, it was her switch flipping in the Duke game. She went off the last two sets then torched FSU at home in the last game of the year hitting almost .400 with double digit kills. Unbeknownst to fans, was that Cox had some health issues that limited her, but those began clearing up towards the end of the season. If Cox wants a 6 rotation job, she is going to need to work on her back row game. What makes her a tantalizing possibility on the RS is her ability to leap from the back row and hit pipe sets and "D" sets. That is valuable when you run a 5-1. The third major prospect is Lauren Harrison. She brings the ability to terminate, which we did not have last year. Harrison is in a similar boat as Cox....her defense needs work, but what can still get her on the left side is her OOS game. She is a go to OOS player and her approach is very strong on the left side. I think we may see her get reps on both pins, but because of her offensive prowess, I expect to see her get a lot of time on the left. LaGarde is a player that did not get a lot of attention coming in to Carolina and was injured through last year. The appearances she made were decent. If LaGarde wants to grow in her game this spring, she really needs to focus on refining her approach and shot selection. She could be a decent OPP given her physicality.
3. How does the defense improve?
There are two schemes to defense; the blocking and the floor defense behind the block. One of the most notable issues was that there seemed to be a lack of blocking technique and scheme. There was times that the blocks never formed or had huge seams and the floor defense could not pick up attacks that went through essentially having no block. Even getting touches would have helped but those were also very slim. One thing Carolina has taught successfully is blocking and that was erratic last year. Even Atherton was a better blocker than the MBs! If North Carolina is going to get their MO back and make noise, they have to have sounder defense. I expect to see Esterly working to get back to her top blocking form and seeing Howard adjusting to the speed of the college game. For Clark, it is not about getting to the spot, but about pressing her hands over. These were minor adjustments to be made. In the back row, Jacobs was very streaky as a passer and on serve receive, but her leadership was strong. I expect to see Fradenburg continue growing and see Moseman ease into Jacob’s role. However, if Joe gets his 2 left sides to be 6 rotation that may limit the role of the DS players including Hough. The biggest thing is improving communication between the blockers and defenders and players working in a system to understand where they need to be on defense. Team chemistry is a must this off season.
4. Can the setting become more consistent with Atherton?
There was a lot of hype with Atherton coming in from championship team Nebraska. She was a top high school setting recruit and has even trained under past Olympian trainers. Atherton did a lot of things well in her first season at UNC; she was a very good blocker, she defended very well, and she mixed tempos for her hitters to best suit them and keep defenses off balance. Oh, yeah, and her knuckleball of a float serve was very effective in giving North Carolina some of their only big runs. However, the biggest issue was lack of vocal leadership. Part of that could be coming into a new program and not wanting to rub people the wrong way. However, to be the offensive quarterback of the team, you have to demand from your players and make sure the game plan is well executed. I think Atherton has the technical skills, but I hope to see the leadership and communication improve. She could not be fully utilized this year due to the lapses on defense. Behind Atherton, are Archer and Boone, then Cheney in the fall. In regards to the spring, Archer was a good serving specialist, but is undersized in a 5-1. I can see her earning more play time by continuing to perfect her sets to the middle which I thought were good last year when she had a shot. I also think if Boone wants a role on the team, it may be working on her offense as a left handed player on the RS. Otherwise, Atherton is the cornerstone of the offense for the next two years.
5. Who will provide vocal leadership?
As already stated, lack of a leader really hurt communication and team chemistry. Atherton was very stoic but never really voiced her concerns on the court. Mia played very good defense, but did not seem to get hyped up too much or share with the front row players. I do not think anyone really stood out for rallying the team. Someone should get excited for the big plays, someone should be able to regroup the team during a skid, and someone has to motivate a team to close sets. On the offensive end, I see Atherton needing to step up and on the defense, your libero has to assume leadership, whether it is vocal or just demonstrative. Fradenburg and Atherton really need to seize the reigns over the spring. It is also important that your 6 rotation players also be able to lead since they remain on the court. Ultimately, I see Austin assuming this role in the fall, but until then I can see Cox emerging as this player in the spring. Otherwise, there must be an emphasis on leadership in order to develop team chemistry and develop the intangibles that set teams apart.
All in all, this spring could be, and needs to be a game changer for this program and group.
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Post by maɡˈnōlēə on Feb 27, 2019 20:08:43 GMT -5
Looked at the film from this year some and then some of the new recruits. With less than 2 weeks UNTIL SPRING, these are a few things I would watch for this spring... 1. Who assumes the role in the middle?
North Carolina has traditionally been known as a middle dominant team. Last year, Carolina had one middle who could block but not produce offensively (Esterly), and another middle who could provide offense but could not block (Bell). Those are some big issues with balance. Many times last year, the defense was left out to dry and could not dig anything because the blocking scheme was so off balance or there was a lack of terminating because most teams knew when Esterly was in front, the ball was going to a pin. Enter stage....Skyy Howard. Howard is a total package. She is long, athletic, and moves very well. Howard may be that player to return to Carolina tradition who can terminate and also put up a wall at the net. Ranked the #31 recruit in the country, she has the accolades to get fans excited. Esterly is a solid blocker, but Raleigh Clark deserves the time. Clark has international experience in the USA HP Pipeline and is a great asset. Last year in the matches she was given chance, she hit at a high percentage, could run the slide effectively, and blocked very well. I want to see a duo of Clark and Howard get some playing time this spring. Tontai is also a good offensive player, and could see more time if she improves in her blocking. 2. How will the pin situation be split/decided?North Carolina will be loaded on the pins come the fall, but until then there are still several different combinations the coaching staff can test. Skylar Wine came on strong in some games, but was streaky in others. She eventually transitioned to a 6 rotation player and did okay. While at Pacific, she played some on the RS and with a vacancy there, she may be needed. However, her defense was better than Cox.....enter Cox. Cox was stellar in big games. But she struggled immensely most of the season. If there was hope for UNC fans, it was her switch flipping in the Duke game. She went off the last two sets then torched FSU at home in the last game of the year hitting almost .400 with double digit kills. Unbeknownst to fans, was that Cox had some health issues that limited her, but those began clearing up towards the end of the season. If Cox wants a 6 rotation job, she is going to need to work on her back row game. What makes her a tantalizing possibility on the RS is her ability to leap from the back row and hit pipe sets and "D" sets. That is valuable when you run a 5-1. The third major prospect is Lauren Harrison. She brings the ability to terminate, which we did not have last year. Harrison is in a similar boat as Cox....her defense needs work, but what can still get her on the left side is her OOS game. She is a go to OOS player and her approach is very strong on the left side. I think we may see her get reps on both pins, but because of her offensive prowess, I expect to see her get a lot of time on the left. LaGarde is a player that did not get a lot of attention coming in to Carolina and was injured through last year. The appearances she made were decent. If LaGarde wants to grow in her game this spring, she really needs to focus on refining her approach and shot selection. She could be a decent OPP given her physicality. 3. How does the defense improve?
There are two schemes to defense; the blocking and the floor defense behind the block. One of the most notable issues was that there seemed to be a lack of blocking technique and scheme. There was times that the blocks never formed or had huge seams and the floor defense could not pick up attacks that went through essentially having no block. Even getting touches would have helped but those were also very slim. One thing Carolina has taught successfully is blocking and that was erratic last year. Even Atherton was a better blocker than the MBs! If North Carolina is going to get their MO back and make noise, they have to have sounder defense. I expect to see Esterly working to get back to her top blocking form and seeing Howard adjusting to the speed of the college game. For Clark, it is not about getting to the spot, but about pressing her hands over. These were minor adjustments to be made. In the back row, Jacobs was very streaky as a passer and on serve receive, but her leadership was strong. I expect to see Fradenburg continue growing and see Moseman ease into Jacob’s role. However, if Joe gets his 2 left sides to be 6 rotation that may limit the role of the DS players including Hough. The biggest thing is improving communication between the blockers and defenders and players working in a system to understand where they need to be on defense. Team chemistry is a must this off season. 4. Can the setting become more consistent with Atherton?
There was a lot of hype with Atherton coming in from championship team Nebraska. She was a top high school setting recruit and has even trained under past Olympian trainers. Atherton did a lot of things well in her first season at UNC; she was a very good blocker, she defended very well, and she mixed tempos for her hitters to best suit them and keep defenses off balance. Oh, yeah, and her knuckleball of a float serve was very effective in giving North Carolina some of their only big runs. However, the biggest issue was lack of vocal leadership. Part of that could be coming into a new program and not wanting to rub people the wrong way. However, to be the offensive quarterback of the team, you have to demand from your players and make sure the game plan is well executed. I think Atherton has the technical skills, but I hope to see the leadership and communication improve. She could not be fully utilized this year due to the lapses on defense. Behind Atherton, are Archer and Boone, then Cheney in the fall. In regards to the spring, Archer was a good serving specialist, but is undersized in a 5-1. I can see her earning more play time by continuing to perfect her sets to the middle which I thought were good last year when she had a shot. I also think if Boone wants a role on the team, it may be working on her offense as a left handed player on the RS. Otherwise, Atherton is the cornerstone of the offense for the next two years. 5. Who will provide vocal leadership?
As already stated, lack of a leader really hurt communication and team chemistry. Atherton was very stoic but never really voiced her concerns on the court. Mia played very good defense, but did not seem to get hyped up too much or share with the front row players. I do not think anyone really stood out for rallying the team. Someone should get excited for the big plays, someone should be able to regroup the team during a skid, and someone has to motivate a team to close sets. On the offensive end, I see Atherton needing to step up and on the defense, your libero has to assume leadership, whether it is vocal or just demonstrative. Fradenburg and Atherton really need to seize the reigns over the spring. It is also important that your 6 rotation players also be able to lead since they remain on the court. Ultimately, I see Austin assuming this role in the fall, but until then I can see Cox emerging as this player in the spring. Otherwise, there must be an emphasis on leadership in order to develop team chemistry and develop the intangibles that set teams apart. All in all, this spring could be, and needs to be a game changer for this program and group. Good synopsis of the concerns we've all said out loud here on VT. I hope you're correct about the setter situation and the middle situation. Well all of it actually.
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