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Post by gibbyb1 on Dec 4, 2019 21:50:08 GMT -5
According to the Jon & Diane pregame show ahead of the Rutgers match, Barnes ralphed right before the Penn State match. Dodge was also quite ill that night. I'm glad we're not playing until Friday. The ladies need lots of time to rest and recuperate. Also, that begins to explain the disconnection I was seeing in covering hitters and blockers, and in defense generally the last three sets against PSU. When PSU started playing defense, the badgers just couldn't seem to match their intensity and focus. Not sure if she was affected, but I also thought, of all matches I watched since the B1G opened, Hilley was having the hardest time getting her feet to the ball. She just looked slower than in previous matches. That was a problem when the passing broke down, and I felt like it affected her setting. I was hoping it wasn't just a sign of her wearing down late in the season. Did that flu hit them between games 2-3?
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 4, 2019 22:21:59 GMT -5
Well if you watch how the Rutgers match progressed I think it was more like run out of gas.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 22:25:28 GMT -5
Being sick would certainly accelerate the process of running out of gas. I am sure we have all been sick at times where simply walking to the bathroom takes everything you have in you. Imagine playing 2 volleyball matches
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Post by gibbyb1 on Dec 4, 2019 22:26:14 GMT -5
Well if you watch how the Rutgers match progressed I think it was more like run out of gas. In some circles that would be considered an excuse. Just enjoy a very well earned title. Their record, with their schedule was impressive.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 5, 2019 0:28:22 GMT -5
Well if you watch how the Rutgers match progressed I think it was more like run out of gas. In some circles that would be considered an excuse. Just enjoy a very well earned title. Their record, with their schedule was impressive. I never understand where this comment comes from. What does it matter? Games have to be played at a particular time. Sickness is therefore a part of the game. As are injuries. The coaches and the players are supposed to be doing things to minimize the incidence and effect of them both. Sometimes you can play through them, sometimes you can't. Sometimes the team doesn't play well for some other reason. These are all the same to me. There are no asterisks IMO. We know lots of things can affect how a team plays. The only difference in this case is that we know they were sick, and that might help explain the pattern of play, and if they happen to play better the next weekend should they get well. We don't really have anything else upon which to base a prediction.
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 5, 2019 4:52:35 GMT -5
Well if you watch how the Rutgers match progressed I think it was more like run out of gas. In some circles that would be considered an excuse. Just enjoy a very well earned title. Their record, with their schedule was impressive. In others it could be a hypothesis. I didn't watch Rutgers so I don't know.
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 5, 2019 7:13:41 GMT -5
Congrats to Rettke and Hilley. What did they really improved on compared to last season, in your opinion?
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Post by SportyBucky on Dec 5, 2019 8:45:24 GMT -5
In some circles that would be considered an excuse. Just enjoy a very well earned title. Their record, with their schedule was impressive. I never understand where this comment comes from. What does it matter? Games have to be played at a particular time. Sickness is therefore a part of the game. As are injuries. The coaches and the players are supposed to be doing things to minimize the incidence and effect of them both. Sometimes you can play through them, sometimes you can't. Sometimes the team doesn't play well for some other reason. These are all the same to me. There are no asterisks IMO. We know lots of things can affect how a team plays. The only difference in this case is that we know they were sick, and that might help explain the pattern of play, and if they happen to play better the next weekend should they get well. We don't really have anything else upon which to base a prediction. Take it from an All Villian Teamer, it's just easier to block them than try to understand. Tourney starts TODAY!!!!!!!
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 5, 2019 9:44:42 GMT -5
Congrats to Rettke and Hilley. What did they really improved on compared to last season, in your opinion? In sum: Decision-making.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Dec 5, 2019 9:52:26 GMT -5
I never understand where this comment comes from. What does it matter? Games have to be played at a particular time. Sickness is therefore a part of the game. As are injuries. The coaches and the players are supposed to be doing things to minimize the incidence and effect of them both. Sometimes you can play through them, sometimes you can't. Sometimes the team doesn't play well for some other reason. These are all the same to me. There are no asterisks IMO. We know lots of things can affect how a team plays. The only difference in this case is that we know they were sick, and that might help explain the pattern of play, and if they happen to play better the next weekend should they get well. We don't really have anything else upon which to base a prediction. Take it from an All Villian Teamer, it's just easier to block them than try to understand. Tourney starts TODAY!!!!!!! Yes, complimenting a team for a great season is villainous.
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Post by SportyBucky on Dec 5, 2019 10:17:18 GMT -5
Take it from an All Villian Teamer, it's just easier to block them than try to understand. Tourney starts TODAY!!!!!!! Yes, complimenting a team for a great season is villainous. Yay! Tourney starts TODAY!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 10:43:26 GMT -5
Congrats to Rettke and Hilley. What did they really improved on compared to last season, in your opinion? I think Rettke, while still a bit slower than she needs to be for National Team progression, has improved in her blocking. And, her serve is a ton better simply from being more consistent. When she gets her serve in, it can really wreak havoc on an opponent. There were times in her career where I think she had as many errors as she had serves in play. Hilley has really grown in running her offense. Last season, whether by design or necessity (or a bit of both), she leaned heavily on Rettke. When she got a good pass you pretty well knew Rettke was going to be set. This year, the attack is more diverse and Hilley has taken advantage of all of the attention Rettke gets by feeding all of her other hitters.
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Post by exit237a on Dec 5, 2019 12:11:37 GMT -5
Just came across this video on the NCAA twitter. Always cool to get some perspective into who these student-athletes are beyond the competitors we see on the court. Anytime I watch Wisconsin I'm always looking forward to see the intensity and effort Clark brings every point, laying out on D and pumping up teammates. I hope for Clark and the Badger faithful you guys get a long run in the tournament.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 5, 2019 12:42:24 GMT -5
Just came across this video on the NCAA twitter. Always cool to get some perspective into who these student-athletes are beyond the competitors we see on the court. Anytime I watch Wisconsin I'm always looking forward to see the intensity and effort Clark brings every point, laying out on D and pumping up teammates. I hope for Clark and the Badger faithful you guys get a long run in the tournament. Wow. That's really beautiful, in a typical Clarkian no non-sense way.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 5, 2019 13:04:40 GMT -5
Congrats to Rettke and Hilley. What did they really improved on compared to last season, in your opinion? Individually? Rettke has gotten better blocking and serving. I think that is what makes her B1G POY. Her offense this year has maybe been less impressive as teams have really focussed on shutting her down, and as she gets more OOS sets, but her presence has opened up the court for other players. The whole offense is much more lethal as a result. She sometimes has periods when her mind goes on walkabouts, or she pushes too hard (the NW match in Madison comes to mind) but these are less frequent than they used to be. She is a late bloomer who is becoming more and more comfortable with the minutiae of the game. Hilley is much better getting her feet to the ball on second contact, which has improved the range of her setting, IMO. She has also really improved in terms of balancing the offence to keep other teams' defenses off balance. I don't know how much of that is down to the reworking of the backrow and the improvement of passing, or Haggerty's and Loberg's various improvements that make her more confident going to them. But you do see her keep options open much more by setting middles even on so-so passes, whereas she was often hesitant to do so in previous years. You also see her being much more judicious in the use of dumps. She creates just a ton of split blocks. I'm not on the floor, so it's hard for me to tell for certain, but the other teammates and Sheff comment frequently on how she has improved her leadership qualities. She apparently took some criticism on board from the team after the Washington match in Seattle, and whatever she did in response seems to have stabilized the team's mental resilience.
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