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Post by hrothgar on Oct 21, 2019 23:04:29 GMT -5
Can anyone explain what 5-1 and 6-2 mean? Or is that too basic to waste time explaining to a VB newcomer?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 23:12:29 GMT -5
Can anyone explain what 5-1 and 6-2 mean? Or is that too basic to waste time explaining to a VB newcomer? so a 5-1 is when you have one setter that sets when they are in front row and back row the entire game. A 6-2 is when you have 2 different setters who only set when they are back row and either get subbed out for an opposite hitter in the front row or stay in to hit for themself (usually the former). If that doesn’t make sense let me know and I can elaborate further.
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Post by lovebugsm on Oct 21, 2019 23:14:40 GMT -5
Can anyone explain what 5-1 and 6-2 mean? Or is that too basic to waste time explaining to a VB newcomer? A 5-1 is when a team plays 1 setter and they play all the way around. So it is 5 different hitters and 1 setter. A 6-2 is when there is 2 different setters. The setters set in the back row only. There would then be 6 different attackers. Sometimes a player sets in the back and then hits in the front or other times the players set in the back and get subbed out for a different hitter in the front.
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Post by hrothgar on Oct 21, 2019 23:20:48 GMT -5
Thanks, Madden54. I'm sorting it out in my mind. Did MN only run 5-1 with SSS? She seemed never to get subbed out or leave the court and lined up both front and back. I seem to remember her moving forward to do lots of sets. I'll ask you again if I have more questions.
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Post by hrothgar on Oct 21, 2019 23:29:46 GMT -5
Thanks. Was MN playing 5-1 when Miller was healthy and playing well? (I don't remember seeing McMenimen in matches before Miller's injury.)
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Post by JT on Oct 21, 2019 23:31:35 GMT -5
Thanks, Madden54. I'm sorting it out in my mind. Did MN only run 5-1 with SSS? She seemed never to get subbed out or leave the court and lined up both front and back. I seem to remember her moving forward to do lots of sets. I'll ask you again if I have more questions. Yes. Hugh would sometimes sub SSS out strategically, to put a taller blocker in her place, but that wasn’t part of a 6-2. Before Kylie came back from her injury, he did the same thing with Bayley, subbing her out for Shea or Ellie as a blocker.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 14:57:16 GMT -5
Can anyone explain what 5-1 and 6-2 mean? Or is that too basic to waste time explaining to a VB newcomer? A 5-1 is when a team plays 1 setter and they play all the way around. So it is 5 different hitters and 1 setter. A 6-2 is when there is 2 different setters. The setters set in the back row only. There would then be 6 different attackers. Sometimes a player sets in the back and then hits in the front or other times the players set in the back and get subbed out for a different hitter in the front. You can also run a 5-1 with 2 setters. Usually one sets in the back row and the other in the front row, but the setter is always in the same spot in the service rotation, even though it is two people -- therefore it's still a 5-1. There are many other variations but you rarely see them in D1. Oregon State, I think, ran a 4-2 several seasons ago. A 6-3 is fairly common in lower youth levels.
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Post by Wolfgang on Oct 22, 2019 15:00:58 GMT -5
Hawaii does a variation of this. One setter (Norene Iosia) plays 6 rotations -- sets while in back row and hits while in front. The second setter (Bailey Choy) only plays 3ro, subs in to serve, and then sets while in back row, but subs out for a middle when she rotates to the front. The only drawback this has is that no setter can dump the ball.
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Post by mnsports255 on Oct 22, 2019 15:11:53 GMT -5
Can anyone explain what 5-1 and 6-2 mean? Or is that too basic to waste time explaining to a VB newcomer? Not sure it’s been mentioned, but 6-2 burns a fair amount of subs too. It’s not an ideal system for any coach to run, but sometimes teams don’t have the option due to the size/talent/capabilities of your setters on the roster.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 15:38:28 GMT -5
Can anyone explain what 5-1 and 6-2 mean? Or is that too basic to waste time explaining to a VB newcomer? Not sure it’s been mentioned, but 6-2 burns a fair amount of subs too. It’s not an ideal system for any coach to run, but sometimes teams don’t have the option due to the size/talent/capabilities of your setters on the roster. Although a "true" 6-2 where the setters hit or a 4-2 even does not have to use any subs. IMO and maybe they admitted it, the reason the NCAA went from 12 to 15 subs was to help teams run a 6-2. It's one way teams without the recruits of the bigger schools can compete. Also IMO it doesn't really work that well. It's hard enough to establish offensive rhythm with one setter. Has a team other than USC won an NT running it?
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Post by TuesdayGone on Oct 22, 2019 16:26:37 GMT -5
Haven't had chance to watch Minnesota lately
Is Miller running a 5-1 now?
If not, what are they doing currently with her?
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Post by Word on Oct 22, 2019 16:29:33 GMT -5
A 5-1 is when a team plays 1 setter and they play all the way around. So it is 5 different hitters and 1 setter. A 6-2 is when there is 2 different setters. The setters set in the back row only. There would then be 6 different attackers. Sometimes a player sets in the back and then hits in the front or other times the players set in the back and get subbed out for a different hitter in the front. You can also run a 5-1 with 2 setters. Usually one sets in the back row and the other in the front row, but the setter is always in the same spot in the service rotation, even though it is two people -- therefore it's still a 5-1. There are many other variations but you rarely see them in D1. Oregon State, I think, ran a 4-2 several seasons ago. A 6-3 is fairly common in lower youth levels. I believe this is technically called a 5-2 (since the second number refers to the number of players who set). I've run it before and works well in general with the proper personnel.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 16:32:12 GMT -5
Haven't had chance to watch Minnesota lately Is Miller running a 5-1 now? If not, what are they doing currently with her? Easing Miller back in from concussion (is my assumption anyway) by running a double sub 6-2 with McMenimen (and Samedy and Miyabe.)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 16:53:04 GMT -5
You can also run a 5-1 with 2 setters. Usually one sets in the back row and the other in the front row, but the setter is always in the same spot in the service rotation, even though it is two people -- therefore it's still a 5-1. There are many other variations but you rarely see them in D1. Oregon State, I think, ran a 4-2 several seasons ago. A 6-3 is fairly common in lower youth levels. I believe this is technically called a 5-2 (since the second number refers to the number of players who set). I've run it before and works well in general with the proper personnel. Yes, I've heard it called that, too. Also a "modified 5-1."
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Post by mcmike on Oct 22, 2019 19:56:11 GMT -5
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