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Post by secgator4 on Oct 14, 2019 3:43:08 GMT -5
Something I noticed recently when watching the gators was a serve a think hall would crush. Just watching hall, her power is clearly visible, but she also has a very good technician arm swing. She has great for and a very smooth swing, she also has great top spin on her hits. I think hall should try a top spin serve. She has the power and form for it. Form is key in a top spin because u are essentially attacking the ball from the back line. Her ability to put good top spin on the ball is also key, it would make it a great "top spin" serve. I know hall has changed her serve around a little, but from what I've seen, and I don't know the stats or follow the team super closely, she isn't an incredibly tough server is she? Idk juts a thought, I think she'd be the perfect player to try this. It's already mid season now but I hope she would consider thinking about it for next season, even though she wouldn't be reading this post I hope someone on the coaching staff sees what I'm seeing. She could have a deadly top spin serve like Snyder did Agree on all accounts. Snyder's serve didn't flourish into top spin fully until her senior year. I think she used it her junior year a bit, but I remember her serving didn't become deadly until her senior season. Actually, I just checked stats to confirm that her aces/set numbers rose dramatically from soph to senior year: .12 to .20 to .49 I know we grounded Hall from jumping while serving last year due to her back. Any relief we could give her helped when considering the amount of total attack attempts she was getting. I am fairly certain she will develop top spin in the future, like Snyder. For now, she leads the team in aces per set at .33.
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Post by trainermch on Oct 14, 2019 17:37:50 GMT -5
Congratulations to Lauren Dooley!
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Post by trainermch on Oct 14, 2019 17:45:32 GMT -5
Highlights from yesterday's 5-set win over the Aggies:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 12:30:49 GMT -5
What are Thayer halls chances with the NT in the future
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Post by stanfordvb on Oct 15, 2019 13:00:42 GMT -5
What are Thayer halls chances with the NT in the future It's hard to tell with college players, she has a good all around game, nice form so she shouldn't be plagued by injury ( Ik her back was injured by I'm talking terms of wearing her body down ) the nt gym is hit or miss normally, some players who aren't exoected to be good in that gym are, some who are expected never really make it. Ex : krista vansant was NPOY at Washington, never was even close to cracking the starting lineup at USA, made a few training blocks I think. Ex : MBH was never a phenom player, yes she was good but she wasn't considered to be the future of the nt, took her many years and she practically won vnls for us last year. This might make gator fans mad, but it's the truth, we have yet to see hall with a really good setter who can set tempo and not forcing her pins to adjust all the time, so I don't think the NCAA has truly seen what hall can do until we see her with a consistent setter It it really just depends tbh
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Post by cbrown1709 on Oct 15, 2019 14:12:09 GMT -5
What are Thayer halls chances with the NT in the future It's hard to tell with college players, she has a good all around game, nice form so she shouldn't be plagued by injury ( Ik her back was injured by I'm talking terms of wearing her body down ) the nt gym is hit or miss normally, some players who aren't exoected to be good in that gym are, some who are expected never really make it. Ex : krista vansant was NPOY at Washington, never was even close to cracking the starting lineup at USA, made a few training blocks I think. Ex : MBH was never a phenom player, yes she was good but she wasn't considered to be the future of the nt, took her many years and she practically won vnls for us last year. This might make gator fans mad, but it's the truth, we have yet to see hall with a really good setter who can set tempo and not forcing her pins to adjust all the time, so I don't think the NCAA has truly seen what hall can do until we see her with a consistent setter It it really just depends tbh So you're saying Hall should transfer? Just kidding..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 14:20:25 GMT -5
Was Murphy the last good setter Florida has had? I want hall to be a first team all American at some point in her career but this year isn’t gonna be it unless she lights it UP the next month and into the tournament.
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Post by Wolfgang on Oct 15, 2019 14:55:20 GMT -5
Hawaii will gladly take Hall. I'll send her a Hawaii brochure. Whasser address?
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Post by eastcoastopp on Oct 15, 2019 15:38:05 GMT -5
Was Murphy the last good setter Florida has had? I want hall to be a first team all American at some point in her career but this year isn’t gonna be it unless she lights it UP the next month and into the tournament. Murphy wasn't that great of a setter in my opinion. The last good all-around setter we had was Dagostino (and that was a gift by way of transfer). Those who remember those years of Murphy and Brown setting the 6-2 knows how hard it was to watch sometimes. Brauneis was solid but definitely had her struggles with tempo. Thankfully Chloe Mann was the queen of adjusting which bailed her out pretty often. Dagostino had a solid jump topspin, was third on the team in blocks behind both middles and knew how to distribute the ball. She did have trouble finding the right height for Alhassan sometimes but I'm pretty sure every setter (both in college and internationally) has. I think Monserez looked the best she ever has on Sunday at A&M. Location and tempo were better but hitters weren't making the best decisions and the digging was...not there. Florida's offense isn't particularly fast which may partially work against them but the Florida offense has never been fast before. Outside of her hitting percentage, Hall is already putting up AA type numbers (3.69 kills, 2.69 digs, .5 blocks, .33 aces). With time I'm sure she'll continue to grow in her offensive repertoire and she and Monserez will find a better connection.
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Post by kro2488 on Oct 15, 2019 16:52:05 GMT -5
Was Murphy the last good setter Florida has had? I want hall to be a first team all American at some point in her career but this year isn’t gonna be it unless she lights it UP the next month and into the tournament. Murphy wasn't that great of a setter in my opinion. The last good all-around setter we had was Dagostino (and that was a gift by way of transfer). Those who remember those years of Murphy and Brown setting the 6-2 knows how hard it was to watch sometimes. Brauneis was solid but definitely had her struggles with tempo. Thankfully Chloe Mann was the queen of adjusting which bailed her out pretty often. Dagostino had a solid jump topspin, was third on the team in blocks behind both middles and knew how to distribute the ball. She did have trouble finding the right height for Alhassan sometimes but I'm pretty sure every setter (both in college and internationally) has. I think Monserez looked the best she ever has on Sunday at A&M. Location and tempo were better but hitters weren't making the best decisions and the digging was...not there. Florida's offense isn't particularly fast which may partially work against them but the Florida offense has never been fast before. Outside of her hitting percentage, Hall is already putting up AA type numbers (3.69 kills, 2.69 digs, .5 blocks, .33 aces). With time I'm sure she'll continue to grow in her offensive repertoire and she and Monserez will find a better connection. I watched Murphy run a 5-1 for the latter part of the 2009 season and she was pretty good I thought. When we were running the 6-2 I felt like the connections weren't as great, but we really needed her offense at times. Shame we never ran a 5-1 with her as a 6 rotation hitter, but we did what we needed with the personal we had at the time. Florida had Angie McGinnis for 4 years and she was very very good, and some great setters before that as well.
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Post by kro2488 on Oct 15, 2019 16:54:04 GMT -5
I'm more concerned with our passing and the floor defense behind the block. We won't be able to go far in the tournament unless we can side out at a high rate and our passing breakdowns can be night marish. Defensively when we are serving, not blocking balls we are sometimes leaving alot of digs out there too. Just have to see if we improve enough by December I guess...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 17:03:56 GMT -5
I'm more concerned with our passing and the floor defense behind the block. We won't be able to go far in the tournament unless we can side out at a high rate and our passing breakdowns can be night marish. Defensively when we are serving, not blocking balls we are sometimes leaving alot of digs out there too. Just have to see if we improve enough by December I guess... you would think with the quality of the DS we have and the blocking that defense would be a strength
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Post by eastcoastopp on Oct 15, 2019 17:10:24 GMT -5
I'm more concerned with our passing and the floor defense behind the block. We won't be able to go far in the tournament unless we can side out at a high rate and our passing breakdowns can be night marish. Defensively when we are serving, not blocking balls we are sometimes leaving alot of digs out there too. Just have to see if we improve enough by December I guess... I honestly don't think our passing is that bad. Floor defense needs a lot of work. Gregory is still diving to her left a ton and liberos should never get beat on an angle swing (this was a reoccurring theme last year too). Swings in between the seams aren't being dug well either (see the Georgia match). Hopefully these injuries to our DS's will subside because we could sure use Cerame's passing and Hargreaves' serving.
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Post by cbrown1709 on Oct 15, 2019 19:21:57 GMT -5
I'm more concerned with our passing and the floor defense behind the block. We won't be able to go far in the tournament unless we can side out at a high rate and our passing breakdowns can be night marish. Defensively when we are serving, not blocking balls we are sometimes leaving alot of digs out there too. Just have to see if we improve enough by December I guess... I honestly don't think our passing is that bad. Floor defense needs a lot of work. Gregory is still diving to her left a ton and liberos should never get beat on an angle swing (this was a reoccurring theme last year too). Swings in between the seams aren't being dug well either (see the Georgia match). Hopefully these injuries to our DS's will subside because we could sure use Cerame's passing and Hargreaves' serving. Do you think that is on Gregory or they way they have designed their defense to play?
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Post by beachindoor on Oct 15, 2019 19:24:17 GMT -5
Carlton should set in 5-1
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