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Post by bigticket on Jan 7, 2020 14:59:52 GMT -5
Highly doubt Theis is going anywhere. He’s building Marquette into something special. Really ‘special’. . .sort of like Harbaugh is building something special, can’t beat his ‘rival’ either. Go Blue. . . IDK about Theis, but I doubt he’s the hire. If OSU is serious, about competing with (Ne, PSU, Wis, Min), the person will be in the mold of Josh Taylor at Missouri. If they want to compete with (Mich, Ind, Iowa, MSU, Pur) to make the tournament ever other year, they will make the audience happy. Sort of amusing from the outside. 🍿🍿🍿 ps If Thies has an offer, he’s there in 2 hours. . . So you want a coach who inherited his in-law's team?
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Post by milkmandan on Jan 10, 2020 12:45:07 GMT -5
It's been 38 days since Carlston was fired.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Jan 10, 2020 13:01:45 GMT -5
Where does ole Geoff wind up? Ohio Dominican?
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 10, 2020 13:35:41 GMT -5
Maybe sealy and Carlston switch spots, 2 wrongs make a right, right ?
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Post by photos1 on Jan 10, 2020 15:35:22 GMT -5
Really ‘special’. . .sort of like Harbaugh is building something special, can’t beat his ‘rival’ either. Go Blue. . . IDK about Theis, but I doubt he’s the hire. If OSU is serious, about competing with (Ne, PSU, Wis, Min), the person will be in the mold of Josh Taylor at Missouri. If they want to compete with (Mich, Ind, Iowa, MSU, Pur) to make the tournament ever other year, they will make the audience happy. Sort of amusing from the outside. 🍿🍿🍿 ps If Thies has an offer, he’s there in 2 hours. . . So you want a coach who inherited his in-law's team? Clearly you didn’t watch the difference in Missouri from their final match in 2018 to 2019. . . So, you must want a politically correct hire that will set a ceiling in the B1G of 5th or 6th. . . I hope that’s what they do. . . If they hire a high level coach, combined with OSU’s institutional support of women’s sports, the conference and fertile nearby recruiting . . , they could challenge that top 4 tier of teams. . . But if they, like you, waste time critiquing who is whose in-law, then they will stay a low level B1G team. Also, your muffled slam on Taylor is pathetic. . . #sadlyAMUSING
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Post by bkedane on Jan 10, 2020 16:24:26 GMT -5
A friend close to the situation told me the following without sharing any names.
Of the first several people Ohio State contacted, one had no interest and the others spoke with OSU at the convention. OSU also spoke with several other possibilities at the convention including several with previous ties to OSU. OSU has also had discussions with one of Geoff's staff members and also discussed with some candidates the importance of retaining this assistant. For various reasons things did not move forward with any of the top choices. OSU has continued to work further into their list. Expect a resolution soon.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 10, 2020 18:46:16 GMT -5
A friend close to the situation told me the following without sharing any names. Of the first several people Ohio State contacted, one had no interest and the others spoke with OSU at the convention. OSU also spoke with several other possibilities at the convention including several with previous ties to OSU. OSU has also had discussions with one of Geoff's staff members and also discussed with some candidates the importance of retaining this assistant. For various reasons things did not move forward with any of the top choices. OSU has continued to work further into their list. Expect a resolution soon. Admins can say “we’d like to see you retain so and so”, but they aren’t going to mandate that as part of the hire.
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Post by bigticket on Jan 12, 2020 16:42:10 GMT -5
So you want a coach who inherited his in-law's team? Clearly you didn’t watch the difference in Missouri from their final match in 2018 to 2019. . . So, you must want a politically correct hire that will set a ceiling in the B1G of 5th or 6th. . . I hope that’s what they do. . . If they hire a high level coach, combined with OSU’s institutional support of women’s sports, the conference and fertile nearby recruiting . . , they could challenge that top 4 tier of teams. . . But if they, like you, waste time critiquing who is whose in-law, then they will stay a low level B1G team. Also, your muffled slam on Taylor is pathetic. . . #sadlyAMUSING There was no muffed slam. What I said was very clear. He inherited a team that his in-laws (and he in the latter years) assembled. Are we really going to look at the last two years as the barometer of what he walked into at Mizzou? There are MANY coaches that would/could knock Ohio State out of the park. This isn't a school or program that is relatively hard to recruit to and win at. Your buddy Taylor would/could be one of those coaches. This is all a mute point, because I'm certain his name was never even in the realm of consideration for this job.
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Post by dunninla3 on Jan 12, 2020 17:08:46 GMT -5
A friend close to the situation told me the following without sharing any names. Of the first several people Ohio State contacted, one had no interest and the others spoke with OSU at the convention. OSU also spoke with several other possibilities at the convention including several with previous ties to OSU. OSU has also had discussions with one of Geoff's staff members and also discussed with some candidates the importance of retaining this assistant. For various reasons things did not move forward with any of the top choices. OSU has continued to work further into their list. Expect a resolution soon. Like lawyers are known to say, don't ask a question on the stand you don't already know the answer to. tOSU AAD failed on both the bolded fronts. There is no excuse for firing a coach and not have already confirmed interest, through back channels, at least a couple of prospects, especially the prime prospect. Then, you absolutely DON'T under any circumstances hamstring a new coach's ability to bring in his/her own team. This is just amateurish work by the AAD... aka a sheat show.
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 12, 2020 17:38:41 GMT -5
A friend close to the situation told me the following without sharing any names. Of the first several people Ohio State contacted, one had no interest and the others spoke with OSU at the convention. OSU also spoke with several other possibilities at the convention including several with previous ties to OSU. OSU has also had discussions with one of Geoff's staff members and also discussed with some candidates the importance of retaining this assistant. For various reasons things did not move forward with any of the top choices. OSU has continued to work further into their list. Expect a resolution soon. Like lawyers are known to say, don't ask a question on the stand you don't already know the answer to. tOSU AAD failed on both the bolded fronts. There is no excuse for firing a coach and not have already confirmed interest, through back channels, at least a couple of prospects, especially the prime prospect. Then, you absolutely DON'T under any circumstances hamstring a new coach's ability to bring in his/her own team. This is just amateurish work by the AAD... aka a sheat show. Yeah, it's generally good policy to have a list of coaches ready to go, just in case of an opening (doesn't have to be a firing--what happens if the coach unexpectedly leaves for another opportunity?). For an example of an athletic department that had proper contingencies set up, read this article about Kansas hiring Bill Self after Roy Williams left for North Carolina. And if it's true that they were quibbling over retaining an assistant, I could see how that would scare some candidates off. What top candidate would want to go to a situation in which they don't have control over their own staff?
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Jan 13, 2020 20:04:17 GMT -5
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 13, 2020 21:50:18 GMT -5
Like lawyers are known to say, don't ask a question on the stand you don't already know the answer to. tOSU AAD failed on both the bolded fronts. There is no excuse for firing a coach and not have already confirmed interest, through back channels, at least a couple of prospects, especially the prime prospect. Then, you absolutely DON'T under any circumstances hamstring a new coach's ability to bring in his/her own team. This is just amateurish work by the AAD... aka a sheat show. Yeah, it's generally good policy to have a list of coaches ready to go, just in case of an opening (doesn't have to be a firing--what happens if the coach unexpectedly leaves for another opportunity?). For an example of an athletic department that had proper contingencies set up, read this article about Kansas hiring Bill Self after Roy Williams left for North Carolina. And if it's true that they were quibbling over retaining an assistant, I could see how that would scare some candidates off. What top candidate would want to go to a situation in which they don't have control over their own staff? We do t know they didn’t do all of that. Confirming your top candidates have strong interest doesn’t mean you are going to get them. If your candidate was Busboom you couldn’t or should t put out those feelers until her season was done which wasn’t until after regional finals. OSU may not have handle this well, but just because it’s Jan 13 doesn’t automatically mean they did.
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 13, 2020 21:53:20 GMT -5
Yeah, it's generally good policy to have a list of coaches ready to go, just in case of an opening (doesn't have to be a firing--what happens if the coach unexpectedly leaves for another opportunity?). For an example of an athletic department that had proper contingencies set up, read this article about Kansas hiring Bill Self after Roy Williams left for North Carolina. And if it's true that they were quibbling over retaining an assistant, I could see how that would scare some candidates off. What top candidate would want to go to a situation in which they don't have control over their own staff? We do t know they didn’t do all of that. Confirming your top candidates have strong interest doesn’t mean you are going to get them. If your candidate was Busboom you couldn’t or should t put out those feelers until her season was done which wasn’t until after regional finals. OSU may not have handle this well, but just because it’s Jan 13 doesn’t automatically mean they did. I mean, that's fair enough. I was speaking more generally on that point. I don't know what's going on at Ohio State specifically. Although the regional final was a month ago, right? Seems like there was plenty of time between now and then. I guess we'll see what happens.
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