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Post by volleyguy on Mar 22, 2019 14:41:49 GMT -5
UCLA men's soccer coach Jorge Salcedo has resigned. The fake soccer player in question was supposed to go to USC but Donna Heinel dropped the ball. I’m curious in the difference between this guy resigning, and the USC people being fired. And why wasn’t this guy arrested? Why didn’t UCLA fire him? Why didn’t the USC people resign? Or is it just semantics? The difference is private vs government. The UCLA coach is an employee of the State of California, is covered by a collective bargaining agreement, is guaranteed "due process" and the decision to terminate could be appealed to the State Personnel Board. Even though the coach was arrested/indicted, that fact alone is probably not sufficient to fire a state employee straight away. Some type of additional investigation or independent corroboration would be necessary (a private employer can likely fire someone just because of the harm to its reputation caused by an arrest). In cases like this, employees are usually put on paid administrative leave until that investigation process is complete. The coach probably knows that he will be fired very soon and probably decided to cut his losses.
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Post by Wolfgang on Mar 22, 2019 14:43:30 GMT -5
Mick Haley was fired by this woman because she could and nobody could would say no because she everyone cowed by her so called credentials. This is going on in business more than you'd like to think. There a great song with the line... And the grand facade, so soon will burn. I don't know what this means.
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Post by maplespear on Mar 22, 2019 15:24:58 GMT -5
This is going on in business more than you'd like to think. There a great song with the line... And the grand facade, so soon will burn. I don't know what this means. I didn't either, until i gave it some thought. I think people have different meanings. It's Peter Gabriel song, In Your Eyes, (song from the 80s).
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Post by maplespear on Mar 22, 2019 15:30:33 GMT -5
Are you specifically asking me for my interpretation ?
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Post by trainermch on Mar 22, 2019 15:33:26 GMT -5
I don't know what this means. I didn't either, until i gave it some thought. I think people have different meanings. It's Peter Gabriel song, In Your Eyes, (song from the 80s). What movie was that big in...Say Anything?
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Post by Phaedrus on Mar 22, 2019 16:15:08 GMT -5
I didn't either, until i gave it some thought. I think people have different meanings. It's Peter Gabriel song, In Your Eyes, (song from the 80s). What movie was that big in...Say Anything? Winner winner chicken dinner. Great song reference by the way.
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Post by azvb on Mar 22, 2019 16:33:51 GMT -5
I’m curious in the difference between this guy resigning, and the USC people being fired. And why wasn’t this guy arrested? Why didn’t UCLA fire him? Why didn’t the USC people resign? Or is it just semantics? The difference is private vs government. The UCLA coach is an employee of the State of California, is covered by a collective bargaining agreement, is guaranteed "due process" and the decision to terminate could be appealed to the State Personnel Board. Even though the coach was arrested/indicted, that fact alone is probably not sufficient to fire a state employee straight away. Some type of additional investigation or independent corroboration would be necessary (a private employer can likely fire someone just because of the harm to its reputation caused by an arrest). In cases like this, employees are usually put on paid administrative leave until that investigation process is complete. The coach probably knows that he will be fired very soon and probably decided to cut his losses. Thank you. Makes sense, now.
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Post by Wolfgang on Mar 22, 2019 16:34:46 GMT -5
I don't know what this means. I didn't either, until i gave it some thought. I think people have different meanings. It's Peter Gabriel song, In Your Eyes, (song from the 80s).
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Post by volleyguy on Mar 22, 2019 17:13:10 GMT -5
Nancy Grace, is that you?
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Post by Phaedrus on Mar 22, 2019 22:30:46 GMT -5
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Post by Wolfgang on Mar 22, 2019 22:37:26 GMT -5
I, too, walked my dogs in Naples several years ago!
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Post by bvhcumoot on Mar 23, 2019 9:29:29 GMT -5
Why are we outraged now? It’s business. Wrong. But the American way of doing business. The outrage is, seemingly, in the knowing of what could have been for someone else. But when has any of this been fair? Ignorance has been bliss. And it would seem this is the way things have been done for years. Money talks. www.si.com/more-sports/2008/03/13/usc-lilromeo The rap millionaire’s son played 19 minutes in two seasons before leaving the team and USC his junior year. And DeMar DeRozan got the college start he needed to move on to the NBA. This happened over ten years ago.
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Post by tomclen on Mar 23, 2019 12:47:53 GMT -5
Heinel’s business held two-hour workshops at U.S.C.’s Galen Center. The notices advertising the clinics were sent to about 150 high school and private counselors, either from Heinel’s work email account or from that of Katie Fuller, an assistant director of admissions and eligibility at the school.Katie Fuller played for Mick. She needs to be investigated also.. I wonder if she back stabbed Mick Haley and gave this heinel ammo to get rid of him. Birds of a feather flock together. heinel seduced people with her power and intimidated them by hiding behind her sexuality. A true coward and fraud is she. She owes $400,000 in back taxes to the IRS plus her lawyer fess. She will throw everybody under the bus. She needs to go to jail. How is it possible that two employees of the USC athletic department were using USC accounts to send out emails to hundreds of people about a 'private business enterprise.' How is it possible that no one else in the athletic department knew about this? How is it possible that someone didn't bring it to the AD's attention? How is it possible that Lynn Swann still has a job? Any job? Anywhere? Who gave them permission to use the Galen Center for their private business? Did they pay USC a rental fee? JHFC.
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Post by notwvb on Mar 23, 2019 16:37:16 GMT -5
How is it possible that Lynn Swann still has a job? Any job? Anywhere? The possibility of receiving a letter from Fred Ridley informing me that I no longer have access down Magnolia Lane would concern me more.
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Post by snickers on Mar 23, 2019 16:58:40 GMT -5
Was this noted somewhere already? I assume Mick didn’t know about this?
Court documents allege that in early 2017, Diane Blake emailed Singer saying her daughter was interested in USC but the mother “assumed the school was ‘in the reach stretch category.’” The Key foundation allegedly falsified volleyball records for the girl, saying she had won several volleyball honors and played for a club team that had qualified for the junior nationals.
USC’s senior associate athletic director, Donna Heinel, allegedly used that to present the Blakes’ daughter as a volleyball recruit. The Blakes’ daughter is enrolled at USC but is not on the roster for the women’s volleyball team, according to the indictment. In a February call, Singer told Diane Blake government officials were looking into student athlete records at USC.
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