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Post by ay2013 on May 7, 2019 14:16:31 GMT -5
Wisconsin would have to have Stanford quality season for anything like this, and my guess is that's not going to happen. By "Stanford quality" you mean what? Better passing or having a player like Plummer to bail them out in nearly all situations and take blockers with her, thus making other players better? Think we got the latter. Stanford quality season as in a #1/#2 AVCA ranking, 1 loss kinda season.
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 7, 2019 14:43:10 GMT -5
I was kinda hoping for good discussion on this thread vs. fanboys naming all six starters from their teams' projected 2019 rosters... C'mon y'all. Iosia? Powell? EVERY Nebraska player?? I don’t see why Powell is so farfetched. Washington returns everyone, much of the conference is down. These awards care about three things, in order: 1- Overall team success/ team AVCA ranking 2- The performance of the individual against other ranked AVCA teams 3- Overall statistics of the player compared to similarly situated players Washington is poised to have a very solid season returning everyone, meanwhile many other teams lose important players Should they win more, their AVCA ranking will be higher Washington will have plenty of opportunities against other ranked AVCA teams With the Pac 12 being down over last year, Washington will likely have a better hitting percentage and more assists per set. UW made the Sweet 16 with an upset win over a Creighton team that had played one good team in 2 months. Otherwise, they were farther off the top tier in the PAC than appearances show. They were in a 3-way tie for 6th and not too far off game-wise, but boy did they get fortunate schedule-wise (beat T2nd-place SC without Lanier or Botkin, 5th-place Zona had I think 7 starters out between their two matches, got T2nd UO w/o Borup at home but didn't pull out the win). Their current record more or less reflects playing against a "down" PAC-12. They were something like 4-11 against Pablo Top 25 teams - I don't see them getting that much better just with Wazzu losing a bunch of starters (and who knows what their foreigners will come in and do?)
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Post by ay2013 on May 7, 2019 15:38:53 GMT -5
I don’t see why Powell is so farfetched. Washington returns everyone, much of the conference is down. These awards care about three things, in order: 1- Overall team success/ team AVCA ranking 2- The performance of the individual against other ranked AVCA teams 3- Overall statistics of the player compared to similarly situated players Washington is poised to have a very solid season returning everyone, meanwhile many other teams lose important players Should they win more, their AVCA ranking will be higher Washington will have plenty of opportunities against other ranked AVCA teams With the Pac 12 being down over last year, Washington will likely have a better hitting percentage and more assists per set. UW made the Sweet 16 with an upset win over a Creighton team that had played one good team in 2 months. Otherwise, they were farther off the top tier in the PAC than appearances show. They were in a 3-way tie for 6th and not too far off game-wise, but boy did they get fortunate schedule-wise (beat T2nd-place SC without Lanier or Botkin, 5th-place Zona had I think 7 starters out between their two matches, got T2nd UO w/o Borup at home but didn't pull out the win). Their current record more or less reflects playing against a "down" PAC-12. They were something like 4-11 against Pablo Top 25 teams - I don't see them getting that much better just with Wazzu losing a bunch of starters (and who knows what their foreigners will come in and do?) we've had this discussion privately, however I expected UW to have a down year last year, accurately predicting their win-loss on the year. They transition in a new setter, a bunch of players not familiar with their blocking scheme, a nagging injury to an impressive frosh year MB, Bajema and McPherson actually being counted on as a go to in their respective positions. This year I'm far more bullish. If they stay healthy, they can put a starting line up on the floor that can challenge almost every team in the country. In conference, WAZZU is decimated by graduation and plenty of schools lose their best outlet players....Colorado loses it's two best players in Smith and Abu, Arizona no longer has Dalhke, Oregon no longer as LVW and is transiting in a new setter, does UCLA even have enough players to field a team? Last year is just misleading. Once UW got healthy and found a decent rhythm, they had a solid November-December....only really looking bad against Stanford, which is to be expected. Going to 5 against an experienced and talented Oregon and WSU (both replace BIG pieces next year) is nothing to scoff at, and that match against PSU was pretty even in all the sets until the 20's. I think UW has a ceiling issue, overall, but I think the momentum carried over into next year is good enough for about 5 more wins on the year, a top 10 ranking heading into the tournament, and a 2nd or 3rd place Pac-12 finish.
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 7, 2019 16:25:34 GMT -5
UW's 5 game win streak in November came against ASU in 4; Arizona without Dahlke, Cross or their libero in 4; USC with neither Lanier or Botkin(!!!) in 4; freefalling UCLA in 3, and Cal in 4. That doesn't show as much as is being claimed.
That came after 4 losses to the Mountain and LA schools, and then they closed the regular season with losses to Stanford, Wazzu, and a short-handed Oregon that was shuffling lineups. In this context, does the Creighton upset fit the narrative the same way?
I also disagree on the PAC being down overall. Stanford will continue to steamroll - and the upper-tier teams UW is competing with are likely to be much more consistent and stable. SC and Oregon will both be very good, Arizona has some of the best athletes in the conference and can offset the loss of Dahlke just by being somewhat healthy and concussion-less - Utah was tied with UW last year and is upgrading more in the offseason just by getting Oblad back. CU and Wazzu are losing a lot and will probably drop, but both still have really tough home courts and some serious players back. Cal will continue its upward trajectory, UCLA has the talent to not suck this year (and let's be honest, we were all a little confused last year), and both ASU and OSU are stabilizing. The PAC will not be easier to navigate this year.
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Post by vbprisoner on May 7, 2019 16:50:01 GMT -5
UW's 5 game win streak in November came against ASU in 4; Arizona without Dahlke, Cross or their libero in 4; USC with neither Lanier or Botkin(!!!) in 4; freefalling UCLA in 3, and Cal in 4. That doesn't show as much as is being claimed. That came after 4 losses to the Mountain and LA schools, and then they closed the regular season with losses to Stanford, Wazzu, and a short-handed Oregon that was shuffling lineups. In this context, does the Creighton upset fit the narrative the same way? I also disagree on the PAC being down overall. Stanford will continue to steamroll - and the upper-tier teams UW is competing with are likely to be much more consistent and stable. SC and Oregon will both be very good, Arizona has some of the best athletes in the conference and can offset the loss of Dahlke just by being somewhat healthy and concussion-less - Utah was tied with UW last year and is upgrading more in the offseason just by getting Oblad back. CU and Wazzu are losing a lot and will probably drop, but both still have really tough home courts and some serious players back. Cal will continue its upward trajectory, UCLA has the talent to not suck this year, and both ASU and OSU are stabilizing. The PAC will not be easier to navigate this year. Damn, you're just not going to let ay2013 forget his baby's ugly!! LMAO
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 7, 2019 16:51:39 GMT -5
UW's 5 game win streak in November came against ASU in 4; Arizona without Dahlke, Cross or their libero in 4; USC with neither Lanier or Botkin(!!!) in 4; freefalling UCLA in 3, and Cal in 4. That doesn't show as much as is being claimed. That came after 4 losses to the Mountain and LA schools, and then they closed the regular season with losses to Stanford, Wazzu, and a short-handed Oregon that was shuffling lineups. In this context, does the Creighton upset fit the narrative the same way? I also disagree on the PAC being down overall. Stanford will continue to steamroll - and the upper-tier teams UW is competing with are likely to be much more consistent and stable. SC and Oregon will both be very good, Arizona has some of the best athletes in the conference and can offset the loss of Dahlke just by being somewhat healthy and concussion-less - Utah was tied with UW last year and is upgrading more in the offseason just by getting Oblad back. CU and Wazzu are losing a lot and will probably drop, but both still have really tough home courts and some serious players back. Cal will continue its upward trajectory, UCLA has the talent to not suck this year, and both ASU and OSU are stabilizing. The PAC will not be easier to navigate this year. Damn, you're just not going to let ay2013 forget his baby's ugly!! LMAO It's Oregon-Washington. I like AY, but I have to criticize UW as a point of personal honor (and I expect nothing less from him)
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 23:34:36 GMT -5
I was kinda hoping for good discussion on this thread vs. fanboys naming all six starters from their teams' projected 2019 rosters... C'mon y'all. Iosia? Powell? EVERY Nebraska player?? I don’t see why Powell is so farfetched. Washington returns everyone, much of the conference is down. These awards care about three things, in order: 1- Overall team success/ team AVCA ranking 2- The performance of the individual against other ranked AVCA teams 3- Overall statistics of the player compared to similarly situated players Washington is poised to have a very solid season returning everyone, meanwhile many other teams lose important players Should they win more, their AVCA ranking will be higher Washington will have plenty of opportunities against other ranked AVCA teams With the Pac 12 being down over last year, Washington will likely have a better hitting percentage and more assists per set. She just isn’t very good. Sorry.
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Post by ay2013 on May 8, 2019 0:27:45 GMT -5
I’m gonna bookmark this page....
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Post by ay2013 on May 8, 2019 0:28:28 GMT -5
I don’t see why Powell is so farfetched. Washington returns everyone, much of the conference is down. These awards care about three things, in order: 1- Overall team success/ team AVCA ranking 2- The performance of the individual against other ranked AVCA teams 3- Overall statistics of the player compared to similarly situated players Washington is poised to have a very solid season returning everyone, meanwhile many other teams lose important players Should they win more, their AVCA ranking will be higher Washington will have plenty of opportunities against other ranked AVCA teams With the Pac 12 being down over last year, Washington will likely have a better hitting percentage and more assists per set. She just isn’t very good. Sorry. No need to be sorry, but plenty of All Americans weren’t very good as freshmen either. Just sayin.
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Post by ay2013 on May 8, 2019 0:29:57 GMT -5
Damn, you're just not going to let ay2013 forget his baby's ugly!! LMAO It's Oregon-Washington. I like AY, but I have to criticize UW as a point of personal honor (and I expect nothing less from him) We have our private wager on the pac next year.... we shall see.
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Post by lukeskywalker on May 8, 2019 8:02:56 GMT -5
Now that she’s cleared have to think Bruna from Illinois would be in consideration for all American honors
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Post by houstonbear15 on May 8, 2019 8:31:56 GMT -5
For Baylor:
Shelly Fanning- I’m looking for her to have a huge final season. Now that she’s in better health I think she’ll be even more explosive at the net. Remember, she played the whole season with a stress fracture in her shin and didn’t practice or warm-up with the team. Was non-weight bearing and on a knee scooter whenever she wasn’t playing... and still was a second team All-American.
Yossi Pressley- She gets her kills but needs to do it with better efficiency. Still one of the most fun players to watch and should look to move off the HM list.
Hannah Lockin- was an HM AA two seasons ago but wasn’t as accurate last year coming off of injury. She still has the potential.
Kara McGhee- A freshman who should start at the other MB position. She was great in high school, the #6 recruit, but we’ll see how that translates at the college level.
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Post by vbfamily on May 8, 2019 9:41:54 GMT -5
I don’t see why Powell is so farfetched. Washington returns everyone, much of the conference is down. These awards care about three things, in order: 1- Overall team success/ team AVCA ranking 2- The performance of the individual against other ranked AVCA teams 3- Overall statistics of the player compared to similarly situated players Washington is poised to have a very solid season returning everyone, meanwhile many other teams lose important players Should they win more, their AVCA ranking will be higher Washington will have plenty of opportunities against other ranked AVCA teams With the Pac 12 being down over last year, Washington will likely have a better hitting percentage and more assists per set. She just isn’t very good. Sorry. You really don’t think so? I think she is very good!
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Post by vbfamily on May 8, 2019 9:46:43 GMT -5
It's Oregon-Washington. I like AY, but I have to criticize UW as a point of personal honor (and I expect nothing less from him) We have our private wager on the pac next year.... we shall see. Oct 11th weekend, first UO-UW matchup at Washington will be some All-Americans on the floor! Should be a great match!
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Post by yupyupyup on May 8, 2019 20:43:42 GMT -5
Elan McCall from TCU had an excellent freshman season. If she has a similar numbers, I would think she could make 3rd team.
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