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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 26, 2019 17:06:35 GMT -5
Here's a question. In large parking lots with many rows and columns and many four-way "intersections" for traffic, how do you determine who has right of way at those "intersections"?
Obviously, if you enter a T intersection from the "leg" of the T, you should stop and yield right of way to vehicles on the "shoulder" or through road portion of the T. But if it's a four-way intersection and there's no STOP sign, who has right of way? I guarantee you, vehicles don't stop at those intersections and yield right of way to whoever got to the "intersection" first or, alternatively, if multiple vehicles got there simultaneously, they're not following the "yield to the vehicle on your right" rule.
So, some context, I was shopping at a an outdoor mall. I was on the through road portion of a parking lot and approached the entrance/exit ramp of the parking lot. No STOP signs anywhere. As I got to the intersection, I slowed down but did not stop and a lady who was entering the parking lot from that entrance honked at me and gave me the finger. Apparently, she thought she had the right of way to enter the parking lot unhindered.
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 26, 2019 17:18:41 GMT -5
Here's a question. In large parking lots with many rows and columns and many four-way "intersections" for traffic, how do you determine who has right of way at those "intersections"? Obviously, if you enter a T intersection from the "leg" of the T, you should stop and yield right of way to vehicles on the "shoulder" or through road portion of the T. But if it's a four-way intersection and there's no STOP sign, who has right of way? I guarantee you, vehicles don't stop at those intersections and yield right of way to whoever got to the "intersection" first or, alternatively, if multiple vehicles got there simultaneously, they're not following the "yield to the vehicle on your right" rule. So, some context, I was shopping at a an outdoor mall. I was on the through road portion of a parking lot and approached the entrance to the parking lot. No STOP signs anywhere. As I got to the intersection, I slowed down but did not stop and a lady who was entering the parking lot from that entrance honked at me and gave me the finger. Apparently, she thought she had the right of way to enter the parking lot unhindered. In some parking lots, they put signs up saying that entering traffic does have the right of way. Anyway, yesterday I passed a car (in a marked passing zone) on two-lane road (one in each direction). The other driver honked and flashed the lights and turned on the high beams and basically did everything possible to indicate displeasure with me. But why? I didn't come close to cutting the other car off. I didn't pass them and then hold them up -- I was moving faster and continued to move faster, leaving them behind. I think it's just that some people feel they MUST NOT EVER BE PASSED, and that anyone who wants to drive faster then they want to drive must be stopped. It's so moronic. I would far, far rather that someone passes me and leaves my life forever than that they sit fuming on my rear bumper. I guess maybe some of it is my track driving experience. Unless you are competitively racing, it is the height of asshattery to hold up other cars on the track. It marks you as either an incompetent noob or a jerk. Competent drivers know how to cooperate and make sure everyone on the track has as much safe fun as possible. (Actual racing is different, of course. But even there, if you are not racing for position with a faster car, it's a mark of a good racer that you can let that car past you without disrupting your own race.) But out on the street, some people just freak the f*** out if someone else passes them.
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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 26, 2019 17:41:42 GMT -5
Do you have loud engines or one of those suped-up engines that give an intense roar whenever you accelerate? My wife hates those types of vehicles, esp. motorcycles, regardless of where they are. She doesn't like noise pollution. I can see her point because those are quite frightening when they come upon you suddenly from behind or beside you.
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 26, 2019 17:42:41 GMT -5
Do you have loud engines or one of those suped-up engines that give an intense roar whenever you accelerate? No.
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Post by azvb on Sept 27, 2019 11:36:31 GMT -5
Here's a question. In large parking lots with many rows and columns and many four-way "intersections" for traffic, how do you determine who has right of way at those "intersections"? Obviously, if you enter a T intersection from the "leg" of the T, you should stop and yield right of way to vehicles on the "shoulder" or through road portion of the T. But if it's a four-way intersection and there's no STOP sign, who has right of way? I guarantee you, vehicles don't stop at those intersections and yield right of way to whoever got to the "intersection" first or, alternatively, if multiple vehicles got there simultaneously, they're not following the "yield to the vehicle on your right" rule. So, some context, I was shopping at a an outdoor mall. I was on the through road portion of a parking lot and approached the entrance to the parking lot. No STOP signs anywhere. As I got to the intersection, I slowed down but did not stop and a lady who was entering the parking lot from that entrance honked at me and gave me the finger. Apparently, she thought she had the right of way to enter the parking lot unhindered. In some parking lots, they put signs up saying that entering traffic does have the right of way. Anyway, yesterday I passed a car (in a marked passing zone) on two-lane road (one in each direction). The other driver honked and flashed the lights and turned on the high beams and basically did everything possible to indicate displeasure with me. But why? I didn't come close to cutting the other car off. I didn't pass them and then hold them up -- I was moving faster and continued to move faster, leaving them behind. I think it's just that some people feel they MUST NOT EVER BE PASSED, and that anyone who wants to drive faster then they want to drive must be stopped. It's so moronic. I would far, far rather that someone passes me and leaves my life forever than that they sit fuming on my rear bumper. I guess maybe some of it is my track driving experience. Unless you are competitively racing, it is the height of asshattery to hold up other cars on the track. It marks you as either an incompetent noob or a jerk. Competent drivers know how to cooperate and make sure everyone on the track has as much safe fun as possible. (Actual racing is different, of course. But even there, if you are not racing for position with a faster car, it's a mark of a good racer that you can let that car past you without disrupting your own race.) But out on the street, some people just freak the f*** out if someone else passes them. Reformed moron, jerk, noob here. I used to be so competitive it annoyed me when someone passed me. Stupid, I know. I had a fast car. And many speeding tickets. License even got suspended once. This was in my 20’s. Giving birth and a mini van slowed me down.
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Post by azvb on Sept 27, 2019 11:42:37 GMT -5
This makes me crazy. Utah is THE WORST. Snowbirds are a close 2nd.
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Post by hammer on Sept 27, 2019 16:38:58 GMT -5
Since I switched to driving one of these, other cars always yield to me in a parking lot ... But, funny thing, I always need two spots or more to park my truck. Getting in and out is hell too.
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Post by ironhammer on Sept 27, 2019 19:33:28 GMT -5
Has anyone driven on the "wrong side" of the road? Do you find it tricky and challenging? I have in the UK, Japan and Australia. It can be a little challenging at first, but once you remember you have to turn left instead of right and vice versa, you will get the hang of it.
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Post by XAsstCoach on Sept 27, 2019 20:09:16 GMT -5
Driven in St Thomas, USVI, where you drove on the left side of the road in a US configured car (driver on the left side). Did take a bit to get used to, also didn’t help I started driving at night in the rain when we arrived on the island. And maybe I was driving a bit close to the center line because wifey was a nervous wreck after driving by so many cars (lots of one lane each way roads in St Thomas).
Driving in China where whoever gets to the intersection first has the right of way. Traffic laws are really just a suggestion and not enforced. 😂 Seriously, driving in Shanghai has improved considerably in the past 13 years, but can’t say the same for outside Shanghai other than Suzhou.
Driven in Sicily...that was a wild experience!
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 28, 2019 2:03:07 GMT -5
Has anyone driven on the "wrong side" of the road? Do you find it tricky and challenging? I have in the UK, Japan and Australia. It can be a little challenging at first, but once you remember you have to turn left instead of right and vice versa, you will get the hang of it. I prefer roads where you are allowed to drive on any side you like.
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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 28, 2019 2:38:09 GMT -5
Has anyone driven on the "wrong side" of the road? Do you find it tricky and challenging? I have in the UK, Japan and Australia. It can be a little challenging at first, but once you remember you have to turn left instead of right and vice versa, you will get the hang of it. Yes, in the video game Sleeping Dogs, which is set in Hong Kong. Couldn't get used to it. Doesn't matter as I routinely break all traffic rules to get where I'm going. Even drive on sidewalks and share single lanes with other vehicles.
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Post by XAsstCoach on Sept 28, 2019 9:05:54 GMT -5
Has anyone driven on the "wrong side" of the road? Do you find it tricky and challenging? I have in the UK, Japan and Australia. It can be a little challenging at first, but once you remember you have to turn left instead of right and vice versa, you will get the hang of it. Yes, in the video game Sleeping Dogs, which is set in Hong Kong. Couldn't get used to it. Doesn't matter as I routinely break all traffic rules to get where I'm going. Even drive on sidewalks and share single lanes with other vehicles. Ooh...speaking of Hong Kong. One time I was walking about and I stepped off the curb, instinctively looking to my left for oncoming traffic. Then I remembered I was in HK so I quickly looked to my right. Sure enough an oncoming bus was no more than 30m away and I quickly stepped back onto the curb just as the bus blew right by.
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Post by hammer on Sept 28, 2019 14:19:53 GMT -5
Yes, in the video game Sleeping Dogs, which is set in Hong Kong. Couldn't get used to it. Doesn't matter as I routinely break all traffic rules to get where I'm going. Even drive on sidewalks and share single lanes with other vehicles. Ooh...speaking of Hong Kong. One time I was walking about and I stepped off the curb, instinctively looking to my left for oncoming traffic. Then I remembered I was in HK so I quickly looked to my right. Sure enough an oncoming bus was no more than 30m away and I quickly stepped back onto the curb just as the bus blew right by. If you hadn't stepped back the above post likely wouldn't have been made.
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 28, 2019 15:24:57 GMT -5
Yes, in the video game Sleeping Dogs, which is set in Hong Kong. Couldn't get used to it. Doesn't matter as I routinely break all traffic rules to get where I'm going. Even drive on sidewalks and share single lanes with other vehicles. Ooh...speaking of Hong Kong. One time I was walking about and I stepped off the curb, instinctively looking to my left for oncoming traffic. Then I remembered I was in HK so I quickly looked to my right. Sure enough an oncoming bus was no more than 30m away and I quickly stepped back onto the curb just as the bus blew right by. In London, many crosswalk intersections actually have signs warning people which way to look for traffic. I never drove during the week that I was there, but I picked up on the correct direction to look for traffic in only a few days.
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 28, 2019 15:31:06 GMT -5
Another thing that confuses me in Europe is the paint colors. In the US it's very standardized that white paint is for shoulders and separating lanes of traffic that go in the same direction, while yellow paint is for separating lanes of traffic moving in opposite directions.
In many European countries, either white is used for everything or, as in the picture I just posted, yellow is used for the boundary of the road.
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