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Post by stephenasinjin on Mar 9, 2020 14:11:01 GMT -5
Has it been mentioned and I’ve already forgotten or is it still unknown who Cook is going to partner with? Most points at that point who could potential make a move is Roschitz 👀. Assuming Del Sol is with Ed.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Mar 9, 2020 14:34:22 GMT -5
Has it been mentioned and I’ve already forgotten or is it still unknown who Cook is going to partner with? Most points at that point who could potential make a move is Roschitz 👀. Assuming Del Sol is with Ed. Not sure Cook is better than Peter. Conole and Roschitz have been cleaning up a ton of pretty good paydays since the season ended.
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Post by stephenasinjin on Mar 9, 2020 16:40:02 GMT -5
Most points at that point who could potential make a move is Roschitz 👀. Assuming Del Sol is with Ed. Not sure Cook is better than Peter. Conole and Roschitz have been cleaning up a ton of pretty good paydays since the season ended. I’m not convinced either, but his ceiling is nowhere in sight.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Mar 10, 2020 7:20:34 GMT -5
Not sure Cook is better than Peter. Conole and Roschitz have been cleaning up a ton of pretty good paydays since the season ended. I’m not convinced either, but his ceiling is nowhere in sight. We'll see. Hopefully he has some of his sister's fight. I do hope he comes out and puts his name in the mix. We are starting to get a nice group of young blockers.
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Post by stephenasinjin on Mar 10, 2020 8:25:18 GMT -5
I’m not convinced either, but his ceiling is nowhere in sight. We'll see. Hopefully he has some of his sister's fight. I do hope he comes out and puts his name in the mix. We are starting to get a nice group of young blockers. Right? Everyone’s been talking about how there’s no young promising US blockers. It will be interesting to watch Benesh, Cook, Webber, and maybe even Prima or Schultz this year. Might be that next crop of blockers.
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Post by txbvb on Mar 10, 2020 8:38:44 GMT -5
We'll see. Hopefully he has some of his sister's fight. I do hope he comes out and puts his name in the mix. We are starting to get a nice group of young blockers. Right? Everyone’s been talking about how there’s no young promising US blockers. It will be interesting to watch Benesh, Cook, Webber, and maybe even Prima or Schultz this year. Might be that next crop of blockers. Connole deserves to be in that conversation as well.
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Post by guest2 on Mar 10, 2020 8:47:10 GMT -5
We'll see. Hopefully he has some of his sister's fight. I do hope he comes out and puts his name in the mix. We are starting to get a nice group of young blockers. Right? Everyone’s been talking about how there’s no young promising US blockers. It will be interesting to watch Benesh, Cook, Webber, and maybe even Prima or Schultz this year. Might be that next crop of blockers. Who in that group has size and elite athletic ability. I think we are in for more of the same, although thankfully younger versions, where our blockers are either as big or as athletic as the top world guys but not both
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Post by schmidty on Mar 10, 2020 8:56:44 GMT -5
Right? Everyone’s been talking about how there’s no young promising US blockers. It will be interesting to watch Benesh, Cook, Webber, and maybe even Prima or Schultz this year. Might be that next crop of blockers. Who in that group has size and elite athletic ability. I think we are in for more of the same, although thankfully younger versions, where our blockers are either as big or as athletic as the top world guys but not both I haven't watched a ton of Benesh (although I was lucky enough to see him in Hermosa last year take down Allen/Slick and Drost/Frishman), but what are his biggest downsides? The few times I did watch him he seemed to have a fair amount of success at the net on defense for a newer player. I'd say he meets the big requirement, but I'm not sure what the criteria for elite athletic ability is
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Post by JB Southpaw on Mar 10, 2020 9:19:29 GMT -5
Right? Everyone’s been talking about how there’s no young promising US blockers. It will be interesting to watch Benesh, Cook, Webber, and maybe even Prima or Schultz this year. Might be that next crop of blockers. Connole deserves to be in that conversation as well. Agreed. I'd actually like to see Peter play defense for a tournament. I think he's athletic enough to be a Paterson like defender.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Mar 10, 2020 9:22:37 GMT -5
Right? Everyone’s been talking about how there’s no young promising US blockers. It will be interesting to watch Benesh, Cook, Webber, and maybe even Prima or Schultz this year. Might be that next crop of blockers. Who in that group has size and elite athletic ability. I think we are in for more of the same, although thankfully younger versions, where our blockers are either as big or as athletic as the top world guys but not both "Elite athletic ability"? we can go down a long list on no athletic bigs doing just fine on the FIVB starting with 2 USA players (Ryan & Theo). Benesh for sure has the size, Webber, Cook are more athletic (than Andy) and could be better blockers than Tri internationally.
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Post by guest2 on Mar 10, 2020 9:35:27 GMT -5
Who in that group has size and elite athletic ability. I think we are in for more of the same, although thankfully younger versions, where our blockers are either as big or as athletic as the top world guys but not both "Elite athletic ability"? we can go down a long list on no athletic bigs doing just fine on the FIVB starting with 2 USA players (Ryan & Theo). Benesh for sure has the size, Webber, Cook are more athletic (than Andy) and could be better blockers than Tri internationally. I agree that these guys could reach that level, although all are very early on the path to it. I was thinking more in terms of whether they were prospects to take over for Jake/Phil etc. in terms of top flight blockers. Tri is also generally pretty poor blocker but he makes up for it in other areas. Its hard to imagine any of those guys with offense at Tri's level
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Post by JB Southpaw on Mar 10, 2020 9:43:06 GMT -5
"Elite athletic ability"? we can go down a long list on no athletic bigs doing just fine on the FIVB starting with 2 USA players (Ryan & Theo). Benesh for sure has the size, Webber, Cook are more athletic (than Andy) and could be better blockers than Tri internationally. I agree that these guys could reach that level, although all are very early on the path to it. I was thinking more in terms of whether they were prospects to take over for Jake/Phil etc. in terms of top flight blockers. Tri is also generally pretty poor blocker but he makes up for it in other areas. Its hard to imagine any of those guys with offense at Tri's level Agree, super early to compare to the top flight we've been used to. Also agree on Tri's all-around game, which is why I only said blocking. 3 years ago, we didn't have this hope of a pipeline, we aren't including Chase and Field in this group either.
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Post by stephenasinjin on Mar 10, 2020 10:09:08 GMT -5
Right? Everyone’s been talking about how there’s no young promising US blockers. It will be interesting to watch Benesh, Cook, Webber, and maybe even Prima or Schultz this year. Might be that next crop of blockers. Who in that group has size and elite athletic ability. I think we are in for more of the same, although thankfully younger versions, where our blockers are either as big or as athletic as the top world guys but not both Looking back to 2016 Anders Mol didn’t have nearly the athletic presence at the net that he has now. Couple years of the right physical training could go a long way. As for Connole, I’m not as sold on him from a potential standpoint But that’s just my opinion. Definitely deserves to be part of the conversation. I think he does a great job elevating his partner as technical big, but doesn’t have the size, athleticism, or offensive game to maybe one day reach top blocker status. Avery Drost is where I see him reaching best case, maybe a little higher.
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Post by txbvb on Mar 10, 2020 10:32:53 GMT -5
Who in that group has size and elite athletic ability. I think we are in for more of the same, although thankfully younger versions, where our blockers are either as big or as athletic as the top world guys but not both Looking back to 2016 Anders Mol didn’t have nearly the athletic presence at the net that he has now. Couple years of the right physical training could go a long way. As for Connole, I’m not as sold on him from a potential standpoint But that’s just my opinion. Definitely deserves to be part of the conversation. I think he does a great job elevating his partner as technical big, but doesn’t have the size, athleticism, or offensive game to maybe one day reach top blocker status. Avery Drost is where I see him reaching best case, maybe a little higher. I'm curious how you'd rate Webber than? I see them as comparable. As for Connole, I think if he were out west versus being in Texas, it would really pay dividends from a coaching/training/competition stand point.
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Post by stephenasinjin on Mar 10, 2020 10:53:00 GMT -5
Looking back to 2016 Anders Mol didn’t have nearly the athletic presence at the net that he has now. Couple years of the right physical training could go a long way. As for Connole, I’m not as sold on him from a potential standpoint But that’s just my opinion. Definitely deserves to be part of the conversation. I think he does a great job elevating his partner as technical big, but doesn’t have the size, athleticism, or offensive game to maybe one day reach top blocker status. Avery Drost is where I see him reaching best case, maybe a little higher. I'm curious how you'd rate Webber than? I see them as comparable. As for Connole, I think if he were out west versus being in Texas, it would really pay dividends from a coaching/training/competition stand point. That’s just it right? “If he was in California.” Why isn’t he? Because it’s not a priority. I say that not as necessarily a bad thing, just that’s where his life is. For Webber training at least part time in Cali is a priority, and probably pretty soon will make that permanent move. The other thing is that Connole is 28: aka essentially his physical peak. Webber is what 23? It’s not unfeasible that he could put on a good bit of leg muscle, start jumping even higher and all of a sudden he’s bordering on anders mol physically. Current level of play I actually give the edge to Connole. But his ceiling is very close if not at his current level of play vs. Webber’s is still kind of unknown.
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