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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 15, 2019 2:23:11 GMT -5
Most of the time, the pre-conference schedule was made up of teams with some sort of connection to Hawaii. Just go through the 2019 schedule. Almost all had Hawaii ties, except maybe Sac State and Utah Valley -- and even these two, there may have been except I can't remember. Of course, there will always be the handful of schools who will want to make the Hawaii trip even without Hawaii ties, e.g., Wisconsin (2016), Florida (2015), Iowa, Wichita State, Washington, BYU.
Just off the top of my head, I can see the following coming to Hawaii in the near future:
Missouri (Josh Taylor, brother of Nikki Taylor) Santa Clara (Erin Lindsey, the sister of Lindsey Berg, is from the islands) Washington State (because of this past season's NCAAs) Arizona (Dave Rubio) USC (Keonilei Akana) Cal (Jen Carey) Pitt (Dan Fisher) Illinoia (Tamas and wife Jen Joines know Hawaii very very well and respect the program) Texas (Jerritt Elliott)
There are probably many Ah Mow and Ljungqvist contemporaries I've forgotten who are now with various mainland volleyball programs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 2:27:31 GMT -5
I know it is a stretch, if not, a very long stretch. But I would not put anything pass Robyn and her staff, to put together a pre-conference schedule that would make it at least attainable. It’s not just a stretch. Robyn did awesome this year but she doesn’t have a magic wand that can allow her to defy the way things are. The Power Five conferences own the top 10. I think most forget that teams like Baylor and Pittsburgh, though newer to the upper echelon on women’s volleyball, come from Power Five conferences and therefore has Power Five type facilities and funding. Money = resources and that’s hard to beat. In conclusion, every time Hawaii makes a regional it is more of an achievement than it was during its glory days.
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Post by raian13 on Dec 16, 2019 15:23:39 GMT -5
I think we need more depth at setting and defense. A big time transfer Libero would be awesome.
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Post by raian13 on Dec 16, 2019 15:24:59 GMT -5
I was pretty spot on predicting teams we would play so I'll give it a go once again. I wish RAM would shy away from scheduling teams who have Hawaii ties as its going to be quite difficult once we get less OOC matches due to UCSD, Bakersfield joining the BigWest soon. Any who and all JUST FOR FUN........ Tournament #1 Baylor, Nebraska, San Diego #2 Denver, Stephen F Austin, USC #3 Pitt, Rice, UCLA Two match series: Missouri No Pitt for me.
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Post by raian13 on Dec 16, 2019 15:27:15 GMT -5
Akana is probably going to have to wait one more year for more PT since she will have to learn to pass. Hanna, Brooke and Jolie have solidified their spots as pin hitters next season. Amber and Sky are solid in the middle but Anna will bring another dimension with her step-out/slide so both Amber and Sky will have to work hard to keep their spots. Just need to get a good setter to make it to the sweet 16 and beyong next year. Thinking, Amber needs to work on a step-out/slide move, to truly attain AA status. That is 1st Team AA status. I think Anna will run the slide next year. But we hoped for more from TW that did not pan out.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Dec 16, 2019 15:27:18 GMT -5
Andrews, the recruit that visited us this past week or two has committed to Baylor.
Lets hope Hawaii can land a 2021 recruit soon!
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Post by raian13 on Dec 16, 2019 15:28:15 GMT -5
With the exception of Hanna Hellvig, I do not believe Robyn will want any of the other Freshmen to miss their 1st Spring season. There is still a lot for these freshmen to learn, and get better at. 6 Kills on .136 hitting vs Nebraska isn't a lot to get better at? To be fair though, Hellvig's numbers were similar to Husker frosh Madi Kubik Hanna was playing OPP, Madi was 6 rotation OH. If anything, Hanna needs to work on her SR.
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Post by babybacksets on Dec 16, 2019 15:48:27 GMT -5
I think Shook would be a great get. Strong background, a need to gain her confidence back with a team that’s all about having each other’s backs and making each other feel welcome. Not to say that Texas doesn’t do that, but I think for Shook personally, a tough ass setting specialty Coach like Robyn would do wonders for in the long run of her career. Not to mention Coach Anj with her blocking were she to run a 5-1. Besides Cabello coming in gives the same look as Shook does athletically so there will be 2 other younger setters, one proven she can lead the team and one who is coming in as one of the top setting recruits in the country.
Nothing is saying she can’t win her spot back if she works for it, but I think coming to UH sets her up for a more successful senior season than staying at UT and hoping for the best. Gives Lang the opportunity to acclimate herself to the college game and compete with a high level setter like Shook for the starting job, and still get regular playing time because we have the hitters in reserve (Westerberg, Akana, Wagoner) that Can keep the team competitive in a double sub. And it Shook/Hanna aren’t on their A game, then leave Lang/1of3 in on the 5-1
I feel like if we get a Choy like setter in stature who isn’t as good as Choy or any kind of blocking presence, then the 6-2 in some form is inevitable. As much as people whined that Choy should have been setting a 5-1 she would have been eaten alive in the front row by the good majority of the the Outsides that made the final 8-16. UH is really good when the block is there.
If we get no one, and BVS does set(I believe she set in HS) part time then I think we have a mediocre season, not because BVS will be a bad setter, I’m sure she would be great anywhere after training at it(see Sarah Sponcil) because she’s that good of a VOLLEYBALL player, but her not passing in serve receive is not something I see has being productive for this team. She can definitely take 2nd ball if we end up in that start of the year 6-2 again if setter takes 1st but mostly that scenario with Brooke setting has to be a last resort.
I don’t see any other STRONG setter “Potential” transfer dealing with the same competition issues as Shook. I think she would be the best get who Robyn can mold to reach her potential.
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Post by babybacksets on Dec 16, 2019 15:51:43 GMT -5
I was pretty spot on predicting teams we would play so I'll give it a go once again. I wish RAM would shy away from scheduling teams who have Hawaii ties as its going to be quite difficult once we get less OOC matches due to UCSD, Bakersfield joining the BigWest soon. Any who and all JUST FOR FUN........ Tournament #1 Baylor, Nebraska, San Diego #2 Denver, Stephen F Austin, USC #3 Pitt, Rice, UCLA Two match series: Missouri No Pitt for me. Why not Pitt? They’re a strong team and we need to play strong teams next year. What they might lack in an RPI boost because of their schedule they give us a great test of what the team can be capable of facing teams from all over come post season. I also think Hawaii needs to travel somewhere cold with too competition like Minnesota vs going south. It would be good for them to do that early in the season.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Dec 16, 2019 15:56:18 GMT -5
Shook is not even in the portal from what I have been told. I have also been told she really likes Texas so we will see from there. EVEN if she was to transfer, she has 0 connections to Hawaii. I doubt she would come.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Dec 16, 2019 16:01:47 GMT -5
I think Shook would be a great get. Strong background, a need to gain her confidence back with a team that’s all about having each other’s backs and making each other feel welcome. Not to say that Texas doesn’t do that, but I think for Shook personally, a tough ass setting specialty Coach like Robyn would do wonders for in the long run of her career. Not to mention Coach Anj with her blocking were she to run a 5-1. Besides Cabello coming in gives the same look as Shook does athletically so there will be 2 other younger setters, one proven she can lead the team and one who is coming in as one of the top setting recruits in the country. Nothing is saying she can’t win her spot back if she works for it, but I think coming to UH sets her up for a more successful senior season than staying at UT and hoping for the best. Gives Lang the opportunity to acclimate herself to the college game and compete with a high level setter like Shook for the starting job, and still get regular playing time because we have the hitters in reserve (Westerberg, Akana, Wagoner) that Can keep the team competitive in a double sub. And it Shook/Hanna aren’t on their A game, then leave Lang/1of3 in on the 5-1 I feel like if we get a Choy like setter in stature who isn’t as good as Choy or any kind of blocking presence, then the 6-2 in some form is inevitable. As much as people whined that Choy should have been setting a 5-1 she would have been eaten alive in the front row by the good majority of the the Outsides that made the final 8-16. UH is really good when the block is there. If we get no one, and BVS does set(I believe she set in HS) part time then I think we have a mediocre season, not because BVS will be a bad setter, I’m sure she would be great anywhere after training at it(see Sarah Sponcil) because she’s that good of a VOLLEYBALL player, but her not passing in serve receive is not something I see has being productive for this team. She can definitely take 2nd ball if we end up in that start of the year 6-2 again if setter takes 1st but mostly that scenario with Brooke setting has to be a last resort. I don’t see any other STRONG setter “Potential” transfer dealing with the same competition issues as Shook. I think she would be the best get who Robyn can mold to reach her potential. Pitt already bailed on Hawaii once this year.
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 16, 2019 16:21:50 GMT -5
I think Shook would be a great get. Strong background, a need to gain her confidence back with a team that’s all about having each other’s backs and making each other feel welcome. Not to say that Texas doesn’t do that, but I think for Shook personally, a tough ass setting specialty Coach like Robyn would do wonders for in the long run of her career. Not to mention Coach Anj with her blocking were she to run a 5-1. Besides Cabello coming in gives the same look as Shook does athletically so there will be 2 other younger setters, one proven she can lead the team and one who is coming in as one of the top setting recruits in the country. Nothing is saying she can’t win her spot back if she works for it, but I think coming to UH sets her up for a more successful senior season than staying at UT and hoping for the best. Gives Lang the opportunity to acclimate herself to the college game and compete with a high level setter like Shook for the starting job, and still get regular playing time because we have the hitters in reserve (Westerberg, Akana, Wagoner) that Can keep the team competitive in a double sub. And it Shook/Hanna aren’t on their A game, then leave Lang/1of3 in on the 5-1 I feel like if we get a Choy like setter in stature who isn’t as good as Choy or any kind of blocking presence, then the 6-2 in some form is inevitable. As much as people whined that Choy should have been setting a 5-1 she would have been eaten alive in the front row by the good majority of the the Outsides that made the final 8-16. UH is really good when the block is there. If we get no one, and BVS does set(I believe she set in HS) part time then I think we have a mediocre season, not because BVS will be a bad setter, I’m sure she would be great anywhere after training at it(see Sarah Sponcil) because she’s that good of a VOLLEYBALL player, but her not passing in serve receive is not something I see has being productive for this team. She can definitely take 2nd ball if we end up in that start of the year 6-2 again if setter takes 1st but mostly that scenario with Brooke setting has to be a last resort. I don’t see any other STRONG setter “Potential” transfer dealing with the same competition issues as Shook. I think she would be the best get who Robyn can mold to reach her potential. Who's this Cabello? This is the first I'm reading about a setter named Cabello joining the Wahine.
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Post by staticb on Dec 16, 2019 16:39:32 GMT -5
Cabello is joining Texas.
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Post by koavball on Dec 16, 2019 17:25:00 GMT -5
I think Shook would be a great get. Strong background, a need to gain her confidence back with a team that’s all about having each other’s backs and making each other feel welcome. Not to say that Texas doesn’t do that, but I think for Shook personally, a tough ass setting specialty Coach like Robyn would do wonders for in the long run of her career. Not to mention Coach Anj with her blocking were she to run a 5-1. Besides Cabello coming in gives the same look as Shook does athletically so there will be 2 other younger setters, one proven she can lead the team and one who is coming in as one of the top setting recruits in the country. Nothing is saying she can’t win her spot back if she works for it, but I think coming to UH sets her up for a more successful senior season than staying at UT and hoping for the best. Gives Lang the opportunity to acclimate herself to the college game and compete with a high level setter like Shook for the starting job, and still get regular playing time because we have the hitters in reserve (Westerberg, Akana, Wagoner) that Can keep the team competitive in a double sub. And it Shook/Hanna aren’t on their A game, then leave Lang/1of3 in on the 5-1 I feel like if we get a Choy like setter in stature who isn’t as good as Choy or any kind of blocking presence, then the 6-2 in some form is inevitable. As much as people whined that Choy should have been setting a 5-1 she would have been eaten alive in the front row by the good majority of the the Outsides that made the final 8-16. UH is really good when the block is there. If we get no one, and BVS does set(I believe she set in HS) part time then I think we have a mediocre season, not because BVS will be a bad setter, I’m sure she would be great anywhere after training at it(see Sarah Sponcil) because she’s that good of a VOLLEYBALL player, but her not passing in serve receive is not something I see has being productive for this team. She can definitely take 2nd ball if we end up in that start of the year 6-2 again if setter takes 1st but mostly that scenario with Brooke setting has to be a last resort. I don’t see any other STRONG setter “Potential” transfer dealing with the same competition issues as Shook. I think she would be the best get who Robyn can mold to reach her potential. Jhenna Gabriel > Ashley Shook
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Post by baytree on Dec 16, 2019 17:38:27 GMT -5
I think Shook would be a great get. Strong background, a need to gain her confidence back with a team that’s all about having each other’s backs and making each other feel welcome. Not to say that Texas doesn’t do that, but I think for Shook personally, a tough ass setting specialty Coach like Robyn would do wonders for in the long run of her career. Not to mention Coach Anj with her blocking were she to run a 5-1. Besides Cabello coming in gives the same look as Shook does athletically so there will be 2 other younger setters, one proven she can lead the team and one who is coming in as one of the top setting recruits in the country. Nothing is saying she can’t win her spot back if she works for it, but I think coming to UH sets her up for a more successful senior season than staying at UT and hoping for the best. Gives Lang the opportunity to acclimate herself to the college game and compete with a high level setter like Shook for the starting job, and still get regular playing time because we have the hitters in reserve (Westerberg, Akana, Wagoner) that Can keep the team competitive in a double sub. And it Shook/Hanna aren’t on their A game, then leave Lang/1of3 in on the 5-1 I feel like if we get a Choy like setter in stature who isn’t as good as Choy or any kind of blocking presence, then the 6-2 in some form is inevitable. As much as people whined that Choy should have been setting a 5-1 she would have been eaten alive in the front row by the good majority of the the Outsides that made the final 8-16. UH is really good when the block is there. If we get no one, and BVS does set(I believe she set in HS) part time then I think we have a mediocre season, not because BVS will be a bad setter, I’m sure she would be great anywhere after training at it(see Sarah Sponcil) because she’s that good of a VOLLEYBALL player, but her not passing in serve receive is not something I see has being productive for this team. She can definitely take 2nd ball if we end up in that start of the year 6-2 again if setter takes 1st but mostly that scenario with Brooke setting has to be a last resort. I don’t see any other STRONG setter “Potential” transfer dealing with the same competition issues as Shook. I think she would be the best get who Robyn can mold to reach her potential. Jhenna Gabriel > Ashley Shook I think that's what ievb is saying: Shook might leave bc she has Gabriel, who is better, and Cabello, who is potentially better, in front of her at Texas.
I wouldn't leave a team I liked in my senior year for more playing time but Shook might feel differently. Her major is "Human Dimensions of Organizations" so there's a good chance that many of her credits wouldn't transfer. Rasmussen said that many of her credits didn't transfer (and she's a math major where the classes are likely to be similar at UH and UO). That's a big negative for a senior, especially when you only have a scholarship for one year (and will pay out of state tuition for non-scholarship years).
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